Pashinyan chose to commemorate the genocide today by telling us to get over it, followed by a bunch of Turkish denialist talking points.
>Pashinian also did not condemn the regime of the so-called Young Turks that ruled the Ottoman Empire during the First World War. He said instead that Ottoman Armenians “became victims of geopolitical intrigues and false promises.”
I’m speechless.
I can’t believe how tone deaf this guy is. His comments sound like a copy and paste of the statements Erdogan has been making over the last few days.
dssevag on
Did he really say that, or is this just another sensationalist headline/article?
inbe5theman on
We will move on when Turkey acknowledges it. Until then fuck off
This is the first time im genuinely shocked that this guy is still in power.
Assuming this is true
ReverendEdgelord on
Many Armenians are completely unable to operate rationally when the issue of the genocide is raised. In this sense, we have to overcome the trauma.
If you want justice for the genocide, you need an Armenia with money and arms, because that is what allows you to gain leverage in international matters. All this fetishistic agonising about the genocide, as though the world cares, is getting us nowhere.
So, we need to be able to drop and revive the issue of the genocide as it suits our purposes. One day we are ready to get over it, when we’re weak, the next day, when we have more leverage, we remember the genocide.
Honestly, the biggest impediment in Armenian domestic and international politics is that Armenians’ first response to problems is to shout at them in a fit of righteous indignation. No one gives a fuck about our righteous indignation.
TheJaymort on
This is absolutely disgusting and disgraceful. This man spits in the face of all the victims by regurgitating these words straight out of Erdogans mouth.
mechanicalhuman on
“Black Americans told to overcome trauma of slavery.”
Conceptually similar. How long can one group of people cling to a past injustice? Both sides are valid answers.
I’m sure I’ll get downvoted, but it’s worth saying
Garegin16 on
It’s obvious that he’s trying to suck up to Turkey so we can join NATO. A politician isn’t a therapist. It’s not their business how people feel. Does Biden come out and say “you gals, shouldn’t hate dudes in general after bad dates”.
Also Armenia was always happy to restore relations with Turkey since the 90s. I even remember people listening to Turkish pop music and watching Turkish soap operas. It’s Turkey that keeps slapping away the hand by calling us leftover from the sword.
GuthlacDoomer on
At this point Pashinyan should just hand kocharyan a fucking rpg to blow up parliament. He seems hell bent on undermining his own administration and playing into the hands of the enemy.
Honestly this shit just makes me physically sick.
singerstrasse on
With the way things are going, it’s only a matter of time before Grand Pasha of Ermenistan scrambles away what is left of recognition and reparations.
TrappedTraveler2587 on
Hmmm…tone deaf obviously. As usual, there is some grains of truth in what he says, but enough there to not discount his potential as a Turkish collaborator. Honestly, it could be. I want to believe itd untrue, but the more time goes on the more little things he does like this or victim blaming actions he takes.
Look, Armenians can only rely on Armenians, and the RoA can only rely on itself (e.g. look at Russian Armenians for example), and with this reality i understand some of what he said. Of course I’ll check out the full statement not the few excerpts from this article before passing judgement.
AyeAye711 on
This BS comes up every year
Good to see we have their attention
MetsHayq2 on
What is up with Azatutyun, where in the entire statement is there a suggestion that the Armenian genocide wasn’t real?
icanthinkofussrname on
Prime Minister… of.. Armenia said this? Wow.
Apprehensive_Theme49 on
He is lost. Fear has consumed his mind. First, Turks must overcome their trauma of denial and accept the truth. Then Aliev’s régime must bare full responsibility of their actions then only we can talk.
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Pashinyan chose to commemorate the genocide today by telling us to get over it, followed by a bunch of Turkish denialist talking points.
>Pashinian also did not condemn the regime of the so-called Young Turks that ruled the Ottoman Empire during the First World War. He said instead that Ottoman Armenians “became victims of geopolitical intrigues and false promises.”
I’m speechless.
I can’t believe how tone deaf this guy is. His comments sound like a copy and paste of the statements Erdogan has been making over the last few days.
Did he really say that, or is this just another sensationalist headline/article?
We will move on when Turkey acknowledges it. Until then fuck off
This is the first time im genuinely shocked that this guy is still in power.
Assuming this is true
Many Armenians are completely unable to operate rationally when the issue of the genocide is raised. In this sense, we have to overcome the trauma.
If you want justice for the genocide, you need an Armenia with money and arms, because that is what allows you to gain leverage in international matters. All this fetishistic agonising about the genocide, as though the world cares, is getting us nowhere.
So, we need to be able to drop and revive the issue of the genocide as it suits our purposes. One day we are ready to get over it, when we’re weak, the next day, when we have more leverage, we remember the genocide.
Honestly, the biggest impediment in Armenian domestic and international politics is that Armenians’ first response to problems is to shout at them in a fit of righteous indignation. No one gives a fuck about our righteous indignation.
This is absolutely disgusting and disgraceful. This man spits in the face of all the victims by regurgitating these words straight out of Erdogans mouth.
“Black Americans told to overcome trauma of slavery.”
Conceptually similar. How long can one group of people cling to a past injustice? Both sides are valid answers.
I’m sure I’ll get downvoted, but it’s worth saying
It’s obvious that he’s trying to suck up to Turkey so we can join NATO. A politician isn’t a therapist. It’s not their business how people feel. Does Biden come out and say “you gals, shouldn’t hate dudes in general after bad dates”.
Also Armenia was always happy to restore relations with Turkey since the 90s. I even remember people listening to Turkish pop music and watching Turkish soap operas. It’s Turkey that keeps slapping away the hand by calling us leftover from the sword.
At this point Pashinyan should just hand kocharyan a fucking rpg to blow up parliament. He seems hell bent on undermining his own administration and playing into the hands of the enemy.
Honestly this shit just makes me physically sick.
With the way things are going, it’s only a matter of time before Grand Pasha of Ermenistan scrambles away what is left of recognition and reparations.
Hmmm…tone deaf obviously. As usual, there is some grains of truth in what he says, but enough there to not discount his potential as a Turkish collaborator. Honestly, it could be. I want to believe itd untrue, but the more time goes on the more little things he does like this or victim blaming actions he takes.
Look, Armenians can only rely on Armenians, and the RoA can only rely on itself (e.g. look at Russian Armenians for example), and with this reality i understand some of what he said. Of course I’ll check out the full statement not the few excerpts from this article before passing judgement.
This BS comes up every year
Good to see we have their attention
What is up with Azatutyun, where in the entire statement is there a suggestion that the Armenian genocide wasn’t real?
Prime Minister… of.. Armenia said this? Wow.
He is lost. Fear has consumed his mind. First, Turks must overcome their trauma of denial and accept the truth. Then Aliev’s régime must bare full responsibility of their actions then only we can talk.