She was encouraging people to burn refugees to death while there was an angry mob of far-right terrorists trying to burn a hotel full of refugees down while blocking the fire exits.
She’s lucky to only get 31 months.
I hope we’re not going to see too many extremists on here pretending that she’s been jailed for mean words when she’s actually been jailed for inciting racial hatred and encouraging a racist mob to murder refugees!
RaymondBumcheese on
You can’t even wish for someone to die in a fire these days.
Pure_Quarter_4309 on
I always find it strange when articles don’t state what was said, but only give you narrative along with quoted snippets. Why not just simply state what she said?
OperationSuch5054 on
I’m sure i’ll be downvoted with cope and seethe for this, but 31 fucking months?
Two things, firstly, it’s the online ramblings of an idiot and is there any proof that anyone on earth actually took her words literally and she was the catalyst for attacks on hotels and arson?
Secondly, if we’re slapping down almost 3 years for this, yet Huw Edwards gets a 12 month suspended for literally sharing the most serious level of child porn, someone needs to take a look at sentencing balance on this.
Also, I’d be incredibly interested to see what sentence the guy guts who set the bus on fire during the disorder a few weeks before the Southport incident.
I’m not legally qualified, but I’d assume the length of a sentence like this is subject to some sort of challenge?
I’m sure people here will play verbal gymnastics with what I’ve said and spin it that i’m some sort of a right wing racist, but i’m talking objectively about how ramblings and hatred online can lead to 31 months in jail.
On a similar note, I saw a misconduct hearing for a Met Police officer this week which is coming up, an officer lied on vetting, had an association with a jihadist who operates for the islamic state and had followed and shown interest in radical muslim hate preachers online, yet this doesnt even warrant any sort of prosecution? Come on….
Edit – In fact, i’m sure there’s even an argument that this could embolden the right wing, under the guise of “look at what they do to us for facebook posts compared to people fiddling kids”. It’s a type of suppression that feeds into the crazy lunatics that “jews and muslims run the country and are trying to silence everyone through fear” that gains traction.
I’d argue some sort of suspended sentence, with conditions for her to meet (real) muslims and do community engagement/payback in the muslim community would be 10x more effective than locking her in with crackheads for nearly 3 years.
And as expected, 4 upvotes smashed down to -2 in the space of 30 seconds with no actual response or attempt to discuss what is obviously a big issue. Sums this country up all over.
badbog42 on
Terrible thing for her to say but 31 months does seem a tad excessive.
jeremybeadleshand on
I don’t think what she said should be legal, it’s clear incitement, but that sentencing is insane given some of the stuff you see people get suspended or very short sentences for.
technotechbro on
An interesting part of this story that isn’t told in these articles is that her toddler child died due to the malpractice of a foreign doctor and it seems to have made her racist. Not that it justifies what she did but I think it provides some context.
iamezekiel1_14 on
This is broadly what the Looking Glass went down for isn’t it (but he only got 2 years, some of which he’d already eaten up on remand?). Have no issues with this as its down to the specific laws governing it but it does call into question some of the laws on other issues perhaps?
Cuddling_Guava on
I love this world, that you have free speech but you going to jail. Yes that maybe was very scary and violent calling actions, but don’t see Muslims going to jail for calling Death to Britain or for jihad….. very strange 🤔
King_of_East_Anglia on
This sentencing seems suspect. She said set fire to them (the hotels) “for all I care”.
“For all I care” implies this is not a statement of asking, persuading, or even encouraging someone to do something, but rather that she doesn’t care if it does happen. Cambridge Dictionary defines “for all I care” as a term “used to say that you are not interested in or worried about what *someone else* is doing”. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/for-all-care#google_vignette
I would say she still deserves to be sentenced for the overall context and effect. But 31 months in prison seems ridiculously harsh for the comment she made when you read it in context. Murderers and rapists get away with less.
aredddit on
Great, so the tax payer will pay £40k per year all because she couldn’t rub together the two brain cells she presumably possesses.
Honestly baffling that this was one, her immediate response and two, something she wanted to make public.
jacknpoppy on
Did the person, who didn’t write her tweet, but reposted it, end up with a longer prison sentence than her?
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Lol. Next time she should try murdering someone.
It would be a shorter sentence.
She was encouraging people to burn refugees to death while there was an angry mob of far-right terrorists trying to burn a hotel full of refugees down while blocking the fire exits.
She’s lucky to only get 31 months.
I hope we’re not going to see too many extremists on here pretending that she’s been jailed for mean words when she’s actually been jailed for inciting racial hatred and encouraging a racist mob to murder refugees!
You can’t even wish for someone to die in a fire these days.
I always find it strange when articles don’t state what was said, but only give you narrative along with quoted snippets. Why not just simply state what she said?
I’m sure i’ll be downvoted with cope and seethe for this, but 31 fucking months?
Two things, firstly, it’s the online ramblings of an idiot and is there any proof that anyone on earth actually took her words literally and she was the catalyst for attacks on hotels and arson?
Secondly, if we’re slapping down almost 3 years for this, yet Huw Edwards gets a 12 month suspended for literally sharing the most serious level of child porn, someone needs to take a look at sentencing balance on this.
Also, I’d be incredibly interested to see what sentence the guy guts who set the bus on fire during the disorder a few weeks before the Southport incident.
I’m not legally qualified, but I’d assume the length of a sentence like this is subject to some sort of challenge?
I’m sure people here will play verbal gymnastics with what I’ve said and spin it that i’m some sort of a right wing racist, but i’m talking objectively about how ramblings and hatred online can lead to 31 months in jail.
On a similar note, I saw a misconduct hearing for a Met Police officer this week which is coming up, an officer lied on vetting, had an association with a jihadist who operates for the islamic state and had followed and shown interest in radical muslim hate preachers online, yet this doesnt even warrant any sort of prosecution? Come on….
Edit – In fact, i’m sure there’s even an argument that this could embolden the right wing, under the guise of “look at what they do to us for facebook posts compared to people fiddling kids”. It’s a type of suppression that feeds into the crazy lunatics that “jews and muslims run the country and are trying to silence everyone through fear” that gains traction.
I’d argue some sort of suspended sentence, with conditions for her to meet (real) muslims and do community engagement/payback in the muslim community would be 10x more effective than locking her in with crackheads for nearly 3 years.
And as expected, 4 upvotes smashed down to -2 in the space of 30 seconds with no actual response or attempt to discuss what is obviously a big issue. Sums this country up all over.
Terrible thing for her to say but 31 months does seem a tad excessive.
I don’t think what she said should be legal, it’s clear incitement, but that sentencing is insane given some of the stuff you see people get suspended or very short sentences for.
An interesting part of this story that isn’t told in these articles is that her toddler child died due to the malpractice of a foreign doctor and it seems to have made her racist. Not that it justifies what she did but I think it provides some context.
This is broadly what the Looking Glass went down for isn’t it (but he only got 2 years, some of which he’d already eaten up on remand?). Have no issues with this as its down to the specific laws governing it but it does call into question some of the laws on other issues perhaps?
I love this world, that you have free speech but you going to jail. Yes that maybe was very scary and violent calling actions, but don’t see Muslims going to jail for calling Death to Britain or for jihad….. very strange 🤔
This sentencing seems suspect. She said set fire to them (the hotels) “for all I care”.
“For all I care” implies this is not a statement of asking, persuading, or even encouraging someone to do something, but rather that she doesn’t care if it does happen. Cambridge Dictionary defines “for all I care” as a term “used to say that you are not interested in or worried about what *someone else* is doing”. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/for-all-care#google_vignette
I would say she still deserves to be sentenced for the overall context and effect. But 31 months in prison seems ridiculously harsh for the comment she made when you read it in context. Murderers and rapists get away with less.
Great, so the tax payer will pay £40k per year all because she couldn’t rub together the two brain cells she presumably possesses.
Honestly baffling that this was one, her immediate response and two, something she wanted to make public.
Did the person, who didn’t write her tweet, but reposted it, end up with a longer prison sentence than her?