Kind of scary that our democracy is basically held together by a few judges doing the right thing
KnownAd523 on
What keeps me up at night is a Republican trifecta win (House, Senate, and Presidency), which would undoubtedly lead to a purging of those judges doing the right thing. We will then truly become the Republican of Gilead.
evil_timmy on
Still waiting on the final judgement but putting this on hold was the right move to stop such an obvious attempt to spread chaos. If they wanted to actually clean up these elections they’d have made these decisions last year, same with any of the voter roll purges, instead increasing desperation means they’re trying to pull these tactics so that courts might not even see these cases before Election Day, let alone pass down a final ruling, and they can use the chaos to push whatever fraudulent narrative they’ve cooked up in the meantime.
No-Market-3779 on
The judges decision to block Georgia’s hand count rule is sensible given the timing. Implementing such a major change just weeks before an election risks creating confusion and errors, rather than ensuring election integrity. Stability and clear procedures are crucial!
BNsucks on
Imagine that, a responsible, thoughtful judge from GA! Whoda thunk it? People like Alito, Thomas, Cannon, etc. have destroyed the creditability & integrity of the US judicial system.
sweetlike_g on
It makes sense to block the hand count rule—changing things at the last minute can only stir up more chaos in an already tense election. Better to keep the process smooth and fair.
BebeTheGoddess on
The judge made the right call blocking the hand count rule rushing it through just weeks before the election could’ve created chaos and confusion. We need to prioritize fair and orderly elections, not add more fuel to an already divided political fire.
CaptainNoBoat on
>“A rule that introduces a new and substantive role on the eve of election for more than 7,500 poll workers who will not have received any formal, cohesive or consistent training and that allows for our paper ballots — the only tangible proof of who voted for whom — to be handled multiple times by multiple people following an exhausting Election Day all before they are securely transported to the official tabulation center does not contribute to lessening the tension or boosting the confidence of the public for this election.”
That was the entire point – to erode faith in our institutions.
So sick of these beyond obvious-goals to break stuff so that Republicans gain an excuse to cry that they are broken.
marktx on
* To put it simply, Trump will be successful in forcing a **contingent election** — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contingent_election by preventing any candidate from reaching the required 270 electoral votes by January 6th 2025— and will be legally installed as the next president, because it’s constitutional.
* Georgia has recently passed the hand counting rule — https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/07/georgia-hand-counting-ballots-2024-election-explained — because Georgia **never intends** to offer their electoral votes to be counted by Congress by January 6th 2025, as required by the constitution, and because Congress doesn’t get Georgia’s electoral votes (amongst other states), and no candidate will reach 270 electoral votes, and this will automatically trigger the **contingent election** that will constitutionally install Trump as president.
* Georgia isn’t the only state that won’t be delivering their electoral college votes — Trump is not trying to win the electoral college, Trump is going to exploit it by removing it from the equation entirely, Trump is going to become president like this.
* Trump will get less popular votes, Trump will get less electoral votes, but Trump will still constitutionally become president again, and I don’t think there is anything that can be done about it, because it’s constitutional.
_DOA_ on
>In his eight-page ruling, McBurney … and warned that a new rule may invite the very chaos and error that the board is seeking to prevent.
Except chaos and error is *exactly* what the board is trying to *introduce* to the process. It’s what they want.
dautjazz on
But Trump was going to have Jesus hand count! These Dems and their shady ways!
1nGirum1musNocte on
Its fucking ridiculous. I voted today and you take the printed ballot and have to personally place it in the counting machine/ballot box. The poll worker isn’t even allowed to touch it. So the election interference gang wants to open that box back up and allow fallible people to put their hands all over my already machine counted ballot? Insane
kandoras on
Anyone pushing for this nonsense should be required to first prove their capability to accomplish the job they’re asking for.
Sit them and two buddies down with 2,000 filled in ballots and see how long it takes them to all agree on the right number of votes for each race.
shewy92 on
If anyone was confused as to what the hand count rule was
>A Georgia judge on Tuesday blocked a new rule from the state’s election board that would have required counties to count ballots cast on Election Day by hand, a provision critics had said would cause delays and disruptions in reporting results in the battleground state.
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>The rule required election workers to count the number of ballots — not every vote on a ballot — cast on Nov. 5 before they are delivered to the county for counting and tabulation, sparking concerns it could unnecessarily delay the reporting of results and sow uncertainty in a key state in the presidential election.
prawalnono on
Thankfully this person NOT legislating from the bench
chunky_Iemon_milk on
What are the chances Georgia SC overturns this like they did with the abortion ruling?
mymar101 on
I guarantee they will try to do it anyway
NeilPoonHandler on
Thank fucking God. Gives me some hope that Georgia election results might not be a complete clusterfuck like I was dreading.
SasparillaTango on
Republican or Democrat judge? Article didn’t indicate
socokid on
And *completely* unnecessary.
The genesis for this childish nonsense is unfounded conspiracy theories by crazy people.
FFS…
middlebird on
Trump’s people are trying to steal numerous states. Everyone who has a hand in stopping them should be celebrated as heroes.
cluelessminer on
Hand count would’ve gone like:
1, 2, democrat? (TRASH), 3, 4, 5, dem (TRASH)….
PersonSeenAtYourDoor on
I had an extended family friend admit to me a month back that she didn’t trust the voting machines, the last election was stolen and that she was going to make sure it wouldn’t happen again by “checking” them. Shes an election volunteer in South Georgia this year
mps1729 on
Can this be appealed? (I don’t want it to be, but can it?)
NebulaCnidaria on
There are a lot of bots in here attempting to downplay the events and make these traitorous MAGA loyalists on the GA election board appear innocent…
bubbleshark on
I just early voted in yesterday in Georgia.
Very simple, easy process:
1.) go to registration table, hand ID to poll worker. They scan it, you sign with a stylus (I signed slow to make sure my signature mathced my DL)
2.) you are then handed a card and directed to a voting station.
3.) Insert card to the machine. Select who you are voting for
4.) review selections
5.) submit and print your ballot
6.) Hand Printed selections and card to poll work and wait verify that it was submitted into their scanner and counted.
7.) Get your sticker and be on your way.
Why hand count on a system that has 3 steps already verifying you voted?
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Kind of scary that our democracy is basically held together by a few judges doing the right thing
What keeps me up at night is a Republican trifecta win (House, Senate, and Presidency), which would undoubtedly lead to a purging of those judges doing the right thing. We will then truly become the Republican of Gilead.
Still waiting on the final judgement but putting this on hold was the right move to stop such an obvious attempt to spread chaos. If they wanted to actually clean up these elections they’d have made these decisions last year, same with any of the voter roll purges, instead increasing desperation means they’re trying to pull these tactics so that courts might not even see these cases before Election Day, let alone pass down a final ruling, and they can use the chaos to push whatever fraudulent narrative they’ve cooked up in the meantime.
The judges decision to block Georgia’s hand count rule is sensible given the timing. Implementing such a major change just weeks before an election risks creating confusion and errors, rather than ensuring election integrity. Stability and clear procedures are crucial!
Imagine that, a responsible, thoughtful judge from GA! Whoda thunk it? People like Alito, Thomas, Cannon, etc. have destroyed the creditability & integrity of the US judicial system.
It makes sense to block the hand count rule—changing things at the last minute can only stir up more chaos in an already tense election. Better to keep the process smooth and fair.
The judge made the right call blocking the hand count rule rushing it through just weeks before the election could’ve created chaos and confusion. We need to prioritize fair and orderly elections, not add more fuel to an already divided political fire.
>“A rule that introduces a new and substantive role on the eve of election for more than 7,500 poll workers who will not have received any formal, cohesive or consistent training and that allows for our paper ballots — the only tangible proof of who voted for whom — to be handled multiple times by multiple people following an exhausting Election Day all before they are securely transported to the official tabulation center does not contribute to lessening the tension or boosting the confidence of the public for this election.”
That was the entire point – to erode faith in our institutions.
So sick of these beyond obvious-goals to break stuff so that Republicans gain an excuse to cry that they are broken.
* To put it simply, Trump will be successful in forcing a **contingent election** — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contingent_election by preventing any candidate from reaching the required 270 electoral votes by January 6th 2025— and will be legally installed as the next president, because it’s constitutional.
* Georgia has recently passed the hand counting rule — https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/07/georgia-hand-counting-ballots-2024-election-explained — because Georgia **never intends** to offer their electoral votes to be counted by Congress by January 6th 2025, as required by the constitution, and because Congress doesn’t get Georgia’s electoral votes (amongst other states), and no candidate will reach 270 electoral votes, and this will automatically trigger the **contingent election** that will constitutionally install Trump as president.
* Steven Marche from The Guardian wrote about this in September 2023 prior to Georgia changing the hand counting rule — https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/sep/18/donald-trump-could-win-contingent-election — in it he details how it could be done, Trump has just shown us how it will be done with the Georgia move, amongst many others.
* Georgia isn’t the only state that won’t be delivering their electoral college votes — Trump is not trying to win the electoral college, Trump is going to exploit it by removing it from the equation entirely, Trump is going to become president like this.
* Trump will get less popular votes, Trump will get less electoral votes, but Trump will still constitutionally become president again, and I don’t think there is anything that can be done about it, because it’s constitutional.
>In his eight-page ruling, McBurney … and warned that a new rule may invite the very chaos and error that the board is seeking to prevent.
Except chaos and error is *exactly* what the board is trying to *introduce* to the process. It’s what they want.
But Trump was going to have Jesus hand count! These Dems and their shady ways!
Its fucking ridiculous. I voted today and you take the printed ballot and have to personally place it in the counting machine/ballot box. The poll worker isn’t even allowed to touch it. So the election interference gang wants to open that box back up and allow fallible people to put their hands all over my already machine counted ballot? Insane
Anyone pushing for this nonsense should be required to first prove their capability to accomplish the job they’re asking for.
Sit them and two buddies down with 2,000 filled in ballots and see how long it takes them to all agree on the right number of votes for each race.
If anyone was confused as to what the hand count rule was
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/georgia-judge-blocks-rule-requiring-counties-hand-count-ballots-rcna175632
>A Georgia judge on Tuesday blocked a new rule from the state’s election board that would have required counties to count ballots cast on Election Day by hand, a provision critics had said would cause delays and disruptions in reporting results in the battleground state.
…
>The rule required election workers to count the number of ballots — not every vote on a ballot — cast on Nov. 5 before they are delivered to the county for counting and tabulation, sparking concerns it could unnecessarily delay the reporting of results and sow uncertainty in a key state in the presidential election.
Thankfully this person NOT legislating from the bench
What are the chances Georgia SC overturns this like they did with the abortion ruling?
I guarantee they will try to do it anyway
Thank fucking God. Gives me some hope that Georgia election results might not be a complete clusterfuck like I was dreading.
Republican or Democrat judge? Article didn’t indicate
And *completely* unnecessary.
The genesis for this childish nonsense is unfounded conspiracy theories by crazy people.
FFS…
Trump’s people are trying to steal numerous states. Everyone who has a hand in stopping them should be celebrated as heroes.
Hand count would’ve gone like:
1, 2, democrat? (TRASH), 3, 4, 5, dem (TRASH)….
I had an extended family friend admit to me a month back that she didn’t trust the voting machines, the last election was stolen and that she was going to make sure it wouldn’t happen again by “checking” them. Shes an election volunteer in South Georgia this year
Can this be appealed? (I don’t want it to be, but can it?)
There are a lot of bots in here attempting to downplay the events and make these traitorous MAGA loyalists on the GA election board appear innocent…
I just early voted in yesterday in Georgia.
Very simple, easy process:
1.) go to registration table, hand ID to poll worker. They scan it, you sign with a stylus (I signed slow to make sure my signature mathced my DL)
2.) you are then handed a card and directed to a voting station.
3.) Insert card to the machine. Select who you are voting for
4.) review selections
5.) submit and print your ballot
6.) Hand Printed selections and card to poll work and wait verify that it was submitted into their scanner and counted.
7.) Get your sticker and be on your way.
Why hand count on a system that has 3 steps already verifying you voted?