Wow the desperation is getting thick in here. Liberals entering full panic mode 😀
3rn3stb0rg9 on
> do you want a President Trump, who criticized calls for a cease-fire in Gaza, has said Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu “knows what he’s doing” and advised him “have victory, get your victory, and get it over with.”
ghendler on
I study the evolution of bird species. Kamala Harris must be our next president.
HotDotPlot on
How does one study an event that has never happened?
fapstronautica on
Trumpists don’t give a fck what anybody studies. It all comes from pure ignorance – and they’re proud of it.
ghendler on
I study the evolution of bird species. Kamala Harris must be our next president.
Manue3eblanc on
The stakes are high. Kamala Harris supports peace and talks, while Donald Trump’s rash decisions raise the chance of nuclear war. Your vote matters choose wisely for safety.
What do you think about this?
> Now, U.S. intelligence agencies report that Iran "Has greatly expanded its nuclear program" and "Has the infrastructure and experience to quickly produce weapons-grade uranium." The head of the IAEA now estimates that Iran has "Amassed enough nuclear material for several weapons, not just one." That is the direct result of Trump's ego and poor decision-making.
> Israel lacks the confidence that it could destroy all of the Iranian nuclear materials, both because the enrichment centrifuges are in deep underground facilities – and because most of the IAEA inspectors were kicked out of Iran due to Trump's rash withdrawal from the nuclear deal.
As Mark Twain once opined, “it’s easier to con someone than to convince them they’ve been conned.”
How sad it is that some individuals believe that scientists, scholars, historians, economists, and journalists have devoted their entire lives to deceiving them, while a reality tv star with decades of fraud and exhaustively documented lying is their only beacon of truth and honesty.
Ratchet_Barbie on
I’m terrified of him winning. I just cannot wrap my head around anyone voting for him.
RichmondOfTroy on
The fact that Trump supporters genuinely believe he’d reduce the risk of nuclear war makes me weep for their level of intelligence
honkyjesuseternal on
The biggest threat for nuclear war is coming from Israel. The far-right government there is trying to start a holy war/WWIII.
SurroundTiny on
I was born in 1960, so grew up during the same era as the author of this piece and was just in high school when the Yom Kippur war began . He or his editor has certainly taken some liberties with history.
I will say that we did duck and cover drills and tornado drills. It was painfully obvious to even the stupidest kids that tornado drills were conducted with the expectation of surviving the event. For duck and cover we didn’t even bother to get away from the windows.
JayGatsby52 on
Nuclear war was made up by the gay whales.
jish5 on
Hell, anyone who studies psychology of dictators and history knows what we’ll get under a secondary Trump presidency, and anyone who doesn’t really needs to look into it, because it’s terrifying.
kwaziiman on
I study the historical implications of the existence of the Loch Ness monster. Kamala Harris must be our next president.
Cyanopicacooki on
OTOH, if Trump is elected you’ll be able to study them in practice, not theory…swings and roundabouts
Nervous-Peen on
Yes, Kamala, the mascot of the military industrial complex is the one who wants peace, while Trump, the only president in 40 years that hasn’t gotten America into a new conflict, is the one who will cause war. WTF is this nonsense?
SweetAlyssumm on
Thank you Professor Sagan, great piece in the Detroit Free Press. Would you mind sharing any articles that assess the risk of nuclear war globally? Your own work or others. I know there must be a lot, but figured I would take this opportunity to ask an expert. Thanks. (I can access journal articles.)
bigjimbay on
What a privilege for the enemies of the United States to be blown to smithereens at the hands of such a girlboss queen 😀
favnh2011 on
Yep
Javasndphotoclicks on
I really thought we needed someone who is taiko about going to war on the citizens of this country for speaking poorly about them., /s
muzikmang on
Garbage
Nervous-Peen on
So Trump is bashed for apparently being friends with our nuclear enemies, but at the same time he’s gonna get us into war with them? How does that make sense?
lividbutcher on
No disrespect to Vice President Harris, who is a highly educated professional with presidential qualities. However, if the alternative is the ‘orange turd,’ I personally believe even the inanimate carbon rod from The Simpsons would be a more qualified candidate by comparison. Considering the former president’s overall knowledge of nuclear power probably comes from Simpsons episodes, it ‘should’ be a no-brainer at this point!
Marthaver1 on
Fuck trump. But the Biden administration with the full support of Harris has presided how the Middle East turns into a dangerous regional mess – all while Netanyahu gives Biden the finger and asks for more military aid from the US. And Harris’s approves of this. Neither are fit for office with those views. Fuck both.
ACME-Anvil on
Alot of people that study arent good students.
robby_arctor on
> Do you want a President Kamala Harris who supports Israel, but has expressed doubts about the way Israel is fighting its wars today?
> Or do you want a President Trump, who criticized calls for a cease-fire in Gaza, has said Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu “knows what he’s doing” and advised him “have victory, get your victory, and get it over with.”
The difference highlighted here is rhetoric, not policy. Both candidates have made it clear that they will support Israel’s escalating warmongering, so it’s not really clear to me why the author thinks one of them will avoid nuclear war. Decorum won’t keep nukes on the ground.
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Wow the desperation is getting thick in here. Liberals entering full panic mode 😀
> do you want a President Trump, who criticized calls for a cease-fire in Gaza, has said Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu “knows what he’s doing” and advised him “have victory, get your victory, and get it over with.”
I study the evolution of bird species. Kamala Harris must be our next president.
How does one study an event that has never happened?
Trumpists don’t give a fck what anybody studies. It all comes from pure ignorance – and they’re proud of it.
I study the evolution of bird species. Kamala Harris must be our next president.
The stakes are high. Kamala Harris supports peace and talks, while Donald Trump’s rash decisions raise the chance of nuclear war. Your vote matters choose wisely for safety.
What do you think about this?
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.freep.com/story/opinion/contributors/2024/10/14/trump-presidency-risk-nuclear-war-iran-israel-middle-east-kamala-harris/75612049007/) reduced by 85%. (I’m a bot)
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> The risk of nuclear war in the Middle East today is dangerously high, and Donald Trump is responsible.
> Now, U.S. intelligence agencies report that Iran "Has greatly expanded its nuclear program" and "Has the infrastructure and experience to quickly produce weapons-grade uranium." The head of the IAEA now estimates that Iran has "Amassed enough nuclear material for several weapons, not just one." That is the direct result of Trump's ego and poor decision-making.
> Israel lacks the confidence that it could destroy all of the Iranian nuclear materials, both because the enrichment centrifuges are in deep underground facilities – and because most of the IAEA inspectors were kicked out of Iran due to Trump's rash withdrawal from the nuclear deal.
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As Mark Twain once opined, “it’s easier to con someone than to convince them they’ve been conned.”
How sad it is that some individuals believe that scientists, scholars, historians, economists, and journalists have devoted their entire lives to deceiving them, while a reality tv star with decades of fraud and exhaustively documented lying is their only beacon of truth and honesty.
I’m terrified of him winning. I just cannot wrap my head around anyone voting for him.
The fact that Trump supporters genuinely believe he’d reduce the risk of nuclear war makes me weep for their level of intelligence
The biggest threat for nuclear war is coming from Israel. The far-right government there is trying to start a holy war/WWIII.
I was born in 1960, so grew up during the same era as the author of this piece and was just in high school when the Yom Kippur war began . He or his editor has certainly taken some liberties with history.
I will say that we did duck and cover drills and tornado drills. It was painfully obvious to even the stupidest kids that tornado drills were conducted with the expectation of surviving the event. For duck and cover we didn’t even bother to get away from the windows.
Nuclear war was made up by the gay whales.
Hell, anyone who studies psychology of dictators and history knows what we’ll get under a secondary Trump presidency, and anyone who doesn’t really needs to look into it, because it’s terrifying.
I study the historical implications of the existence of the Loch Ness monster. Kamala Harris must be our next president.
OTOH, if Trump is elected you’ll be able to study them in practice, not theory…swings and roundabouts
Yes, Kamala, the mascot of the military industrial complex is the one who wants peace, while Trump, the only president in 40 years that hasn’t gotten America into a new conflict, is the one who will cause war. WTF is this nonsense?
Thank you Professor Sagan, great piece in the Detroit Free Press. Would you mind sharing any articles that assess the risk of nuclear war globally? Your own work or others. I know there must be a lot, but figured I would take this opportunity to ask an expert. Thanks. (I can access journal articles.)
What a privilege for the enemies of the United States to be blown to smithereens at the hands of such a girlboss queen 😀
Yep
I really thought we needed someone who is taiko about going to war on the citizens of this country for speaking poorly about them., /s
Garbage
So Trump is bashed for apparently being friends with our nuclear enemies, but at the same time he’s gonna get us into war with them? How does that make sense?
No disrespect to Vice President Harris, who is a highly educated professional with presidential qualities. However, if the alternative is the ‘orange turd,’ I personally believe even the inanimate carbon rod from The Simpsons would be a more qualified candidate by comparison. Considering the former president’s overall knowledge of nuclear power probably comes from Simpsons episodes, it ‘should’ be a no-brainer at this point!
Fuck trump. But the Biden administration with the full support of Harris has presided how the Middle East turns into a dangerous regional mess – all while Netanyahu gives Biden the finger and asks for more military aid from the US. And Harris’s approves of this. Neither are fit for office with those views. Fuck both.
Alot of people that study arent good students.
> Do you want a President Kamala Harris who supports Israel, but has expressed doubts about the way Israel is fighting its wars today?
> Or do you want a President Trump, who criticized calls for a cease-fire in Gaza, has said Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu “knows what he’s doing” and advised him “have victory, get your victory, and get it over with.”
The difference highlighted here is rhetoric, not policy. Both candidates have made it clear that they will support Israel’s escalating warmongering, so it’s not really clear to me why the author thinks one of them will avoid nuclear war. Decorum won’t keep nukes on the ground.