Why in the name of God do people want to screw young people over just because some aul ones want to object to anything taller than a 2 story house.
The countless projects that got rejected makes me want to scream.
Dublin is a capital city not a county sized housing estates with a few glass buildings only a few storeys talles than a semi d and an ugly flag pole that looks just bloody awful.
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You can’t build a tall thing because if you do, then I’ll be able to see it, which is unacceptable, apparently.
It would be faster and cheaper to build a whole new town out in Longford or Roscommon than build in Dublin. You could get 2 or even 3 social houses for the price of building one in Dublin.
Dublin looks shite from above
I’ve a lot on chats with an older lady from central Dublin and the comments she makes about buildings beyond about 3 floors are unbelievable. “I couldn’t live in something like that.” “You’d get dizzy looking out.” “It’s sick! They’re ruining Dublin.”
Every building is “it’s like the Ballymun Flats…”
It really is the most beautiful city, in fairness.
They should put a 6 lane motorway over the Liffey and run it on stilts American style out to the Red Cow. Let the buses and bicycles have the old quays.
You make a solid point OP, but personally I think that in the long term we need to invest in decentralisation. Despite there not being enough room to swing a cat, Dublin is still growing but our other cities all seem to be dying and it’s not sustainable in the long term.
We are pushing for a higher skyline at a slow rate, college square for example. The council are scared of fire at great heights. Our regulations have become very strict and observant of fire and escape. The concern would be our ability to stop the fire. We don’t really have the same fleets of tenders as say London or New York.
With boundary restrictions also being a factor we can’t provide full access to buildings for high level fire fighting. For example college square has 360 degrees of boundary access. There’s likely other factors but it’s maybe just not as easy as we think based off the building conditions
How many houses have been refused planning permission by reason of the skyline?
The same again for apartments?
Anyone been on Portrane or Donabate way recently? With the amount of road infrastructure that’s been built out there, if a new town isn’t built there I’ll eat my hat.
They should’ve redeveloped the whole old glass bottle site into 40 storey apartment blocks
We should bring in minimum density zoning for the city centre and immediate surrounds as an anti-sprawl/anti-NIMBY measure.
I.e. if you’re not delivering X number of units or Y amount of bedrooms/office space per unit area of land you get automatically rejected.
The amount of derelict units in Dublin is also mental, tax the life out of them and bring in legislation that it they remain derelict for over 10 years it can be seized or CPOed for redevelopment as social housing.
How is it that every other city in the world has managed to overcome this problem. But the Dublin skyline is the next wonder of the world that has to be kept, what a joke.
Why are people incapable of saving images these days?
You have 2 options, build up or build out. I’d rather keep as much of the country untouched by concrete jungles as possible. People who argue against tall buildings are extremely short sighted
Dublin has no skyline. Dublin needs no skyline.
Preserve what skyline? The modern stuff along the river looks far better than the older stuff. Liberty hall is one of the ugliest buildings ever, only rivaled by the central bank. Other than the customs house and the fourcourts, we destroyed everything worth keeping long ago. The quicker we rip down all the ugly, brutalist shit built in the 60s and 70s the better
Building upwards won’t necessarily solve the problem. In London, large developments have intensified the housing crisis. The city has gone turbo with skyscrapers, but they are sold off-plan to investment portfolios and have very low occupancy rates. Yet, the ‘redevelopment’ accompanying the influx of expensive flats raises property prices, meaning the deprived and rundown places that might stand immediately adjacent to such buildings see their rents go up to the point where they become unaffordable to everyday people.
The biggest problem with these schemes is that the land itself – often publicly owned – is sold off in the process, leaving local government with fewer options for building affordable housing in the future. Every time one of these schemes goes through, it tightens the noose on the city.
Possibly the worst looking major city in Europe if not then the world, the planning laws have to be overhauled, we’re planning for the future not the past
Do the Nimbys not realise that without any building, there wont be a city? If they were around in 800CE dublin just never would have fucking existed
Completely get having more high-rises, it’s partially one of the reasons Belfast is a cheaper place to live then Dublin, but they should still fit in architecturally with the current skyline of Dublin and not stand out as bland monoliths of metal.