This is the type of thing that needs to be blasting over loudspeakers in every red neighborhood.
wizgset27 on
this sounds like something you should have said every day for the last year instead of few weeks leading to election to advertise your book….
Toadfinger on
Better late than never.
JPQwik on
If only there were some warning signs….
Troll_in_the_Knoll on
It’s quite disheartening that there are people who think that scientists, doctors, historians, economists, journalists, military leaders and scholars have dedicated their entire careers to misleading you, and your guiding light of truth, honesty, and trust is a former reality TV star who has committed decades of fraud, deception and thoroughly documented lies.
Professional-Serve97 on
FFS! Stop sitting on this shit so you can sell books. 📚
No_Fail4267 on
It’s time to start calling Fascism, Fascism… before it’s too late.
If Milley really thinks Trump is that dangerous, we should probably take it seriously he’s seen things we haven’t.
V-r1taS on
People really don’t appreciate how unusual and damning statements like these are. Military officers generally go out of their way not to be critical of elected officials like this, even in retirement, and especially a former commander in chief.
Long careers spent in an environment of legal political neutrality build strong habits. People should provide massive weight to these types of assessments.
CurrentlyLucid on
I agree. I knew how bad trump was in 2015 and had to leave facebook after screaming about him so much, nobody wanted to hear from me. I was right though.
Irishish on
Tim Miller raised this point to Dan Crenshaw’s smirking, nothing-bothers-me face. Okay: if Donald Trump’s first three years are indicative of how his next four years would go, what does it say that *pretty much everyone who helped him deliver those years for the American people has turned around and denounced him?* His own vice president, his advisors, his top generals, cabinet secretaries, a press secretary, 90% of the people who worked with him now say he’s a fucking nutbar who can’t be trusted to run the country.
SamuraiCook on
Y’all could have locked up the whole cult on January 6th.
CaptainNoBoat on
To all the “too late,” “why not say this sooner?” “he’s only doing this to sell books” comments.
Whatever your beliefs are of Milley, he has undoubtedly been one of the most outspoken critics of Trump for years, and even worked against Trump on multiple occasions while in office.
He has done TV interviews, been included in multiple books, made public statements. And has said some of the most damning things about Trump anyone in the administration ever has.
This isn’t some brand new sentiment he’s issuing today.
gharlane0073 on
Mark Milley is a straight shooter, a selfless public servant, and a patriot. We should all pay attention to his perspective on this issue.
MaximumManagement765 on
Does he even try to pretend he is not a fascist? He literally said that white supremacists and nazis were “good people”.
He also said all people of color were “rapists” and “animals”. Funny thing trump is a literal rapist who got convicted for raping multiple women.
Independent-Bug-9352 on
Meanwhile Trump-pardoned Christian nationalist scumbag and Putin stooge, former Lt. General Michael Flynn is parading around lies and conspiracy theories.
danappropriate on
“Most dangerous? He’s definitely up there. I think you could create a list in no particular order that includes Trump, Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, the Koch family, Kevin Roberts, John Roberts, Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh, Amy Coney Barrett, Eugene Meyer, Lance Wallnau, the Uihlein family, the Green family, the Waller family, Leonard Leo, and Ken Eldred.
xvandamagex on
Can’t wait for the “everyone else is crazy not me” usual response from Trump. It’s like the old saying, “if you think there is an asshole at your job, there’s probably an asshole. If you think everyone at your job is an asshole, YOU ARE probably the asshole.”
RunnerTexasRanger on
Great.. but why are voters not hearing this from Milley on the campaign trail or in commercials ?
emostitch on
Every person that thinks they’re not fascist needs to see this.
DoctorTortilla on
For those criticizing the timing of this, general Milley has been talking about it since before 2021. They were so concerned with Trump that Milley and other top officials informally planned for different ways to stop Trump in case he didn’t want to transfer power peacefully.
The problem is with any criticism from any official with anyone who’s bought into the Trump bullshit at all (like he’s better in economy, military, jobs etc) is these statements just prove to them that there’s a “deep state”.
knotml on
100%.
Scottydog2 on
He’s still going to get 70 million votes. When did this become ok?
GaiusMaximusCrake on
I was very hard on General Milley when he appeared on June 1, 2020 in that action against demonstrators in front of the White House wearing his battle fatigues. I’m sure that is still a painful day for the general.
It is good to know that there exist generals like Milley; they are really among the last statesmen who care about anything other than pleasing Donald Trump or enriching themselves through holding office.
The U.S. Constitution says exactly as much about the power of the military to effect a coup d’etat as it says about the president’s power to commit crimes without incurring liability – i.e., nothing.
But if we are to be saddled with another Trump administration, an unrepresentative Congress where the House is malapportioned to give rural voters a greater voice and 13% of the population gets 22 U.S. Senators to represent their views in the Senate, where the unelected Supreme Court is acting as an unsummoned constitutional convention inventing new executive powers by court fiat, and where it takes literally a decade to bring a prominent VIP criminal to trial even though he committed his crime nationally on TV 4 years ago in front of basically everyone – in such a system, where do the People find a voice?
Will it be someone like Milley who eventually restores power to the People? Our Constitution has been abrogated and tossed aside, our elected representatives in the House completely willing to sacrifice the one branch of government that was to give a voice to the majority, our president is nominally elected by 40% of the population, but really by about 3% in a half-dozen states, our Court is appointed by a minority-elected president. This system is not a republic at all, it is has devolved into a semi-functional tyranny.
Perhaps a military dictatorship would be worse, but it wouldn’t pretend to be a democracy. Its hard to say a General Milley-lead military dictatorship wouldn’t be preferable to giving nuclear launch codes to Donald Trump to decide matters of war and peace. But a military dictatorship would be preferable to civil war (and maybe preferable to the ongoing permanent cold civil war that is slowly strangling democracy in favor of judicial dictatorship, itself no better than having generals rule).
dBlock845 on
Lets not write it in books, lets get in front of cameras and say it. Milley and McMaster, quite cowardly to profit off their years with Trump but be scared to fully denounce him on camera.
Rich_Classic5249 on
Trump is a grave threat to society at large. Whether you’re Republican, Democrat, or not even in the US, he poses a threat to everyone on a global scale. He absolutely must not get back into office.
BlergFurdison on
How about he says it on national tv, over and over, until people understand it.
Andovars_Ghost on
I actually know General Milley and he’s a good dude (his wife is an absolute sweetheart). I got to hang out with him and several of the service chiefs in 2017, and the shit they talked about was unreal. As a former officer myself, you didn’t used to talk politics all that much, but these guys felt like they were blocking a domestic enemy who also happened to be their boss. Fucking crazy.
Quick_Swing on
Didn’t we already know this🤷♂️
rollem on
These should be the most consequential opinions- these and the ones from his former cabinet. His hand picked appointees (so not biased against him) worked with him closely (so the opinion is well informed). But yet it’s a close election. It’s baffling and frustrating.
elenaleecurtis on
I’m glad they’re all saying it but I get so pissed at why they didn’t say it before
I’m 100% positive in the coming years after Trump loses in 2024 Republicans will retire and then speak out against him, but not until then
Several_Leather_9500 on
In the wake of the January 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol by a riotous mob of the then-president’s supporters, Woodward writes that Milley insisted on securing a meeting with the then-newly-minted attorney general, Merrick Garland, to urge him to investigate domestic violent extremism and far-right militia movements.
He told the journalist that “no one has ever been as dangerous to this country” as the former president.
Milley, who had been a source for Woodward’s last book, Peril, said he’d “glimpsed” Trump’s true nature when they previously spoke during the writing of that 2021 release, but he said he now knew exactly what the ex-president is.
“He is the most dangerous person ever. I had suspicions when I talked to you about his mental decline and so forth, but now I realize he’s a total fascist. He is now the most dangerous person to this country,” he said.
“A fascist to the core,” Milley repeated.
(Exerpts from article above)
I think this all reflects poorly on Garlands time in office. It’s amazing that he still holds office at he’s sat idly by allowing stochastic terrorists to run rampant and poison the blood of this country, including the cult leader himself.
TheZeldaZone on
Sick of this crap in a BOOK. Usually said “in confidence” 4+ years ago. This shit should be LIVE ON CNN, the day after.
Left_Apparently on
Cult members don’t like it when you talk about dear leader like that.
Alone-Ad8807 on
I have been saying for two years that Trump is a fascist. But the damn Democrats would never use that term. Even Harris, I am dying for her to use the term at some point, and she would not. What are they afraid of? Liberals are so lame like this, and it’s such a turn-off. Call a spade a spade already, for heaven’s sake.
RoyalRenn on
So come out and say this on the media. Don’t “report it in a book”. Use your influence to get people off the fence; those that don’t pay attention and therefore aren’t concerned about what’s going on. MAGA won’t be swayed but Trump can’t win with MAGA votes only.
I’m so sick of all of these people in power saying behind closed doors that Trump is a grave threat to the fabric of this country and yet only Liz Cheney seems to have the guts to stand up and endorse Kamala as the only path forward for America.
redditpest on
Trump voters don’t care. They don’t care about truth, they only care about having their feelings validated. They quickly latch on to and spread disinformation that is easily disproven with any sort of research. I honestly think if he said if elected he would stop all future elections and eliminate democratic opposition, he would barely lose any voters. There are a lot of willing idiots in this country.
Fun_Yak1281 on
General Milley single handedly stopped a civil war already. During the BLM riots, Trump ordered the national guard to shoot at citizens. That order made it all the way through the chain of command, and was stopped because Mark Milley said **No.** Look up his job title. He was the HIGHEST ranking and most senior officer in the military.
If the national guard started **shooting protesters** when the nation was fucking pissed about police brutality, citizens would have shot back and shit would have hit the fan.
moodyblue8222 on
And yet many veterans will vote for tRump putting America at risk!
Anti_Freak_Machine on
That was smart…burying those facts in a book. The people who need to hear it the most will never look for it there.
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This is the type of thing that needs to be blasting over loudspeakers in every red neighborhood.
this sounds like something you should have said every day for the last year instead of few weeks leading to election to advertise your book….
Better late than never.
If only there were some warning signs….
It’s quite disheartening that there are people who think that scientists, doctors, historians, economists, journalists, military leaders and scholars have dedicated their entire careers to misleading you, and your guiding light of truth, honesty, and trust is a former reality TV star who has committed decades of fraud, deception and thoroughly documented lies.
FFS! Stop sitting on this shit so you can sell books. 📚
It’s time to start calling Fascism, Fascism… before it’s too late.
http://www.WeAreNotSpecial.org
If Milley really thinks Trump is that dangerous, we should probably take it seriously he’s seen things we haven’t.
People really don’t appreciate how unusual and damning statements like these are. Military officers generally go out of their way not to be critical of elected officials like this, even in retirement, and especially a former commander in chief.
Long careers spent in an environment of legal political neutrality build strong habits. People should provide massive weight to these types of assessments.
I agree. I knew how bad trump was in 2015 and had to leave facebook after screaming about him so much, nobody wanted to hear from me. I was right though.
Tim Miller raised this point to Dan Crenshaw’s smirking, nothing-bothers-me face. Okay: if Donald Trump’s first three years are indicative of how his next four years would go, what does it say that *pretty much everyone who helped him deliver those years for the American people has turned around and denounced him?* His own vice president, his advisors, his top generals, cabinet secretaries, a press secretary, 90% of the people who worked with him now say he’s a fucking nutbar who can’t be trusted to run the country.
Y’all could have locked up the whole cult on January 6th.
To all the “too late,” “why not say this sooner?” “he’s only doing this to sell books” comments.
Whatever your beliefs are of Milley, he has undoubtedly been one of the most outspoken critics of Trump for years, and even worked against Trump on multiple occasions while in office.
He has done TV interviews, been included in multiple books, made public statements. And has said some of the most damning things about Trump anyone in the administration ever has.
This isn’t some brand new sentiment he’s issuing today.
Mark Milley is a straight shooter, a selfless public servant, and a patriot. We should all pay attention to his perspective on this issue.
Does he even try to pretend he is not a fascist? He literally said that white supremacists and nazis were “good people”.
He also said all people of color were “rapists” and “animals”. Funny thing trump is a literal rapist who got convicted for raping multiple women.
Meanwhile Trump-pardoned Christian nationalist scumbag and Putin stooge, former Lt. General Michael Flynn is parading around lies and conspiracy theories.
“Most dangerous? He’s definitely up there. I think you could create a list in no particular order that includes Trump, Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, the Koch family, Kevin Roberts, John Roberts, Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh, Amy Coney Barrett, Eugene Meyer, Lance Wallnau, the Uihlein family, the Green family, the Waller family, Leonard Leo, and Ken Eldred.
Can’t wait for the “everyone else is crazy not me” usual response from Trump. It’s like the old saying, “if you think there is an asshole at your job, there’s probably an asshole. If you think everyone at your job is an asshole, YOU ARE probably the asshole.”
Great.. but why are voters not hearing this from Milley on the campaign trail or in commercials ?
Every person that thinks they’re not fascist needs to see this.
For those criticizing the timing of this, general Milley has been talking about it since before 2021. They were so concerned with Trump that Milley and other top officials informally planned for different ways to stop Trump in case he didn’t want to transfer power peacefully.
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/07/15/mark-milley-feared-coup-after-trump-lost-to-biden-book.html
The problem is with any criticism from any official with anyone who’s bought into the Trump bullshit at all (like he’s better in economy, military, jobs etc) is these statements just prove to them that there’s a “deep state”.
100%.
He’s still going to get 70 million votes. When did this become ok?
I was very hard on General Milley when he appeared on June 1, 2020 in that action against demonstrators in front of the White House wearing his battle fatigues. I’m sure that is still a painful day for the general.
It is good to know that there exist generals like Milley; they are really among the last statesmen who care about anything other than pleasing Donald Trump or enriching themselves through holding office.
The U.S. Constitution says exactly as much about the power of the military to effect a coup d’etat as it says about the president’s power to commit crimes without incurring liability – i.e., nothing.
But if we are to be saddled with another Trump administration, an unrepresentative Congress where the House is malapportioned to give rural voters a greater voice and 13% of the population gets 22 U.S. Senators to represent their views in the Senate, where the unelected Supreme Court is acting as an unsummoned constitutional convention inventing new executive powers by court fiat, and where it takes literally a decade to bring a prominent VIP criminal to trial even though he committed his crime nationally on TV 4 years ago in front of basically everyone – in such a system, where do the People find a voice?
Will it be someone like Milley who eventually restores power to the People? Our Constitution has been abrogated and tossed aside, our elected representatives in the House completely willing to sacrifice the one branch of government that was to give a voice to the majority, our president is nominally elected by 40% of the population, but really by about 3% in a half-dozen states, our Court is appointed by a minority-elected president. This system is not a republic at all, it is has devolved into a semi-functional tyranny.
Perhaps a military dictatorship would be worse, but it wouldn’t pretend to be a democracy. Its hard to say a General Milley-lead military dictatorship wouldn’t be preferable to giving nuclear launch codes to Donald Trump to decide matters of war and peace. But a military dictatorship would be preferable to civil war (and maybe preferable to the ongoing permanent cold civil war that is slowly strangling democracy in favor of judicial dictatorship, itself no better than having generals rule).
Lets not write it in books, lets get in front of cameras and say it. Milley and McMaster, quite cowardly to profit off their years with Trump but be scared to fully denounce him on camera.
Trump is a grave threat to society at large. Whether you’re Republican, Democrat, or not even in the US, he poses a threat to everyone on a global scale. He absolutely must not get back into office.
How about he says it on national tv, over and over, until people understand it.
I actually know General Milley and he’s a good dude (his wife is an absolute sweetheart). I got to hang out with him and several of the service chiefs in 2017, and the shit they talked about was unreal. As a former officer myself, you didn’t used to talk politics all that much, but these guys felt like they were blocking a domestic enemy who also happened to be their boss. Fucking crazy.
Didn’t we already know this🤷♂️
These should be the most consequential opinions- these and the ones from his former cabinet. His hand picked appointees (so not biased against him) worked with him closely (so the opinion is well informed). But yet it’s a close election. It’s baffling and frustrating.
I’m glad they’re all saying it but I get so pissed at why they didn’t say it before
I’m 100% positive in the coming years after Trump loses in 2024 Republicans will retire and then speak out against him, but not until then
In the wake of the January 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol by a riotous mob of the then-president’s supporters, Woodward writes that Milley insisted on securing a meeting with the then-newly-minted attorney general, Merrick Garland, to urge him to investigate domestic violent extremism and far-right militia movements.
He told the journalist that “no one has ever been as dangerous to this country” as the former president.
Milley, who had been a source for Woodward’s last book, Peril, said he’d “glimpsed” Trump’s true nature when they previously spoke during the writing of that 2021 release, but he said he now knew exactly what the ex-president is.
“He is the most dangerous person ever. I had suspicions when I talked to you about his mental decline and so forth, but now I realize he’s a total fascist. He is now the most dangerous person to this country,” he said.
“A fascist to the core,” Milley repeated.
(Exerpts from article above)
I think this all reflects poorly on Garlands time in office. It’s amazing that he still holds office at he’s sat idly by allowing stochastic terrorists to run rampant and poison the blood of this country, including the cult leader himself.
Sick of this crap in a BOOK. Usually said “in confidence” 4+ years ago. This shit should be LIVE ON CNN, the day after.
Cult members don’t like it when you talk about dear leader like that.
I have been saying for two years that Trump is a fascist. But the damn Democrats would never use that term. Even Harris, I am dying for her to use the term at some point, and she would not. What are they afraid of? Liberals are so lame like this, and it’s such a turn-off. Call a spade a spade already, for heaven’s sake.
So come out and say this on the media. Don’t “report it in a book”. Use your influence to get people off the fence; those that don’t pay attention and therefore aren’t concerned about what’s going on. MAGA won’t be swayed but Trump can’t win with MAGA votes only.
I’m so sick of all of these people in power saying behind closed doors that Trump is a grave threat to the fabric of this country and yet only Liz Cheney seems to have the guts to stand up and endorse Kamala as the only path forward for America.
Trump voters don’t care. They don’t care about truth, they only care about having their feelings validated. They quickly latch on to and spread disinformation that is easily disproven with any sort of research. I honestly think if he said if elected he would stop all future elections and eliminate democratic opposition, he would barely lose any voters. There are a lot of willing idiots in this country.
General Milley single handedly stopped a civil war already. During the BLM riots, Trump ordered the national guard to shoot at citizens. That order made it all the way through the chain of command, and was stopped because Mark Milley said **No.** Look up his job title. He was the HIGHEST ranking and most senior officer in the military.
If the national guard started **shooting protesters** when the nation was fucking pissed about police brutality, citizens would have shot back and shit would have hit the fan.
And yet many veterans will vote for tRump putting America at risk!
That was smart…burying those facts in a book. The people who need to hear it the most will never look for it there.