In this scenario (and without the Iron Curtain), all part will be heavily german and could want a reunification. A reunified « Germany » like that would have provoked a de-facto control of Germany on EU. However I don’t know if France would accept a reunification in this case
dziki_z_lasu on
I seriously doubt that Churchill opted for the drawn by Stalin in 1951 shape of the eastern Polish border correction. Maybe Churchill was a visionary knowing about coal deposits in Lubelskie, that Poland must definitely share with the Soviet Union, to not be selfish? The Soviet Union exchanged that for a fragment of heavily forested Eastern Carpathians – the “tail” Poland has on SE. We may not consider that as such, but it is a great deal now tbh. so this region is touristy and Lubelskie coal is hard to mine because of the geology, dirty, CO2 intensive fuel 😉
Time-Gain4896 on
“South Germany”
*Also includes a shit ton of Hungarians*
Unless they planned on deporting or relocating them
FirstAtEridu on
To be fair he was a famously heavy drinker.
Cid_Helveticus on
Wait, Winston included Hungarians in this plan?!
Kaapdr on
It makes sense, in a way that it was a british man trying to draw borders ignoring all cultural and historic ones again
marosszeki on
So what would be the capital of South Germany?
If it’s not Vienna then why. If it’s Vienna then why call it Getmany
IchLiebeKleber on
I have never understood why he thought Hungary, of all countries, had so much in common with southern Germans and Austrians that they should be one country?!
BarristanTheB0ld on
That “South Germany” is something only a colonialist could come up with
I really like the “West German” part:
Was the plan to use the Rhine as the border? Düsseldorf and cologne extend to both sides of the rhine.
Also, moving Essen to Duisburg is just brilliant!
orsonwellesmal on
Czechoslovackia surrounded by Germanies: I’m in danger!
RevolutionBusiness27 on
*Bavaria, Austria, and Hungary were combined to form Southern Germany.
Hungry_Fee_530 on
What is the country in between germany?
Zannder99 on
Hoi4 border gore
EorlundGraumaehne on
Damn i kind of want to see how that one would have turned out….
Sufficient-Reward-93 on
The allies should have gone with the Morganthau plan.
PhoGaPhoever on
So, the Middle East map all over again, except with bratwurst and goulash
HankScorpioPR on
I know this was long before we knew about the Cold War, resurgent Russia, Putin, etc., but that piece of Konigsberg/Kalliningrad always makes my eye twitch. Should have just given the whole thing to Poland.
Substantial_Slip4667 on
South Germany? So The Ducktators were right!
Proud_Ad_4725 on
The British in 1939: We can’t let the Germans have more territory or another world war!
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No East Germany!?
In this scenario (and without the Iron Curtain), all part will be heavily german and could want a reunification. A reunified « Germany » like that would have provoked a de-facto control of Germany on EU. However I don’t know if France would accept a reunification in this case
I seriously doubt that Churchill opted for the drawn by Stalin in 1951 shape of the eastern Polish border correction. Maybe Churchill was a visionary knowing about coal deposits in Lubelskie, that Poland must definitely share with the Soviet Union, to not be selfish? The Soviet Union exchanged that for a fragment of heavily forested Eastern Carpathians – the “tail” Poland has on SE. We may not consider that as such, but it is a great deal now tbh. so this region is touristy and Lubelskie coal is hard to mine because of the geology, dirty, CO2 intensive fuel 😉
“South Germany”
*Also includes a shit ton of Hungarians*
Unless they planned on deporting or relocating them
To be fair he was a famously heavy drinker.
Wait, Winston included Hungarians in this plan?!
It makes sense, in a way that it was a british man trying to draw borders ignoring all cultural and historic ones again
So what would be the capital of South Germany?
If it’s not Vienna then why. If it’s Vienna then why call it Getmany
I have never understood why he thought Hungary, of all countries, had so much in common with southern Germans and Austrians that they should be one country?!
That “South Germany” is something only a colonialist could come up with
NaaaaðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜bitte ned. Ois ausa deitsche sei🥺
I really like the “West German” part:
Was the plan to use the Rhine as the border? Düsseldorf and cologne extend to both sides of the rhine.
Also, moving Essen to Duisburg is just brilliant!
Czechoslovackia surrounded by Germanies: I’m in danger!
*Bavaria, Austria, and Hungary were combined to form Southern Germany.
What is the country in between germany?
Hoi4 border gore
Damn i kind of want to see how that one would have turned out….
The allies should have gone with the Morganthau plan.
So, the Middle East map all over again, except with bratwurst and goulash
I know this was long before we knew about the Cold War, resurgent Russia, Putin, etc., but that piece of Konigsberg/Kalliningrad always makes my eye twitch. Should have just given the whole thing to Poland.
South Germany? So The Ducktators were right!
The British in 1939: We can’t let the Germans have more territory or another world war!
1945: Hungary? That’s part of South Germany to me