‘Ireland has not been kind to me’ – Ukrainian woman returning home to war-torn country after her Irish dream became a nightmare
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/ireland-has-not-been-kind-to-me-ukrainian-woman-returning-home-to-war-torn-country-after-her-irish-dream-became-a-nightmare/a1575732617.html
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It is understandable she feels that way. I don’t see how it is viable for Ukrainians to come to Ireland anymore since the supports have been stripped away. The rescue ladder was pulled up a while ago, anyone who didn’t climb it before then has been left to their own devices.
We must do more, we must allow this person any job they like and we must pay them the wage they would like. Otherwise they are threatening to go back to a war torn country that must be very bad if one is willing to go back. Sorry we as a nation are so selfish.
Good luck with that,anyway…….
Rather go back to a town that is bombed by the Russians on a daily basis than stay in Ireland…
So many commentators that clearly didn’t read the article.
She came to ireland to understandable get away from the war on the east of Ukraine, was willing to work as has 2 degree.
Downright shameful to be saying stuff like women looking for refugee should be fine with being stalked and sharing personal photos and sharing a room with strange men
It’s not about selfishness on our part, or ingratitude on hers. It’s about having avenues there for people to better their situation, to set down roots, and to contribute to our society. Everybody wants that. We *should* have those avenues – we’ve being saying the same thing ourselves for years now about Direct Provision. I could easily see how someone who is looking at being locked into exclusionary hardship for years would say to themselves, ‘well, if I’m going to be suffering hardships, I may as well have my family around me’.
Being hardnosed about it, and honest, our system is set up to be difficult and unwelcoming. While we treated Ukranians differently, they’re still within the same overall system. It’s not a good system as it rewards despertion more than anything else, and people with skills we could definitely use end up leaving. We should want to be the kind of country that people would aspire to being a part of.
I hope things work out for her, and she manages to build some kind of life for herself.
There’s a lot in this. But… our ruling classes have been pretty delusional about how much the working class could absorb. I’ve just no idea what really set off the delusion in Europe at the average career politician dinner party that we were going to built this rainbow multiculturalism across the west.
Hello has anyone even read five minutes of European history?
> While in refugee accommodation in Ireland, Ms Musiienko was stalked by another refugee, she said.
> She said the staff she alerted to the threat told her it was nothing to do with them.
> Ms Musiienko also said there was an incident when she was instructed to turn on her laptop for inspection at a reception centre. Upon doing this, she said a male official copied photographs of her in a bikini taken when she was a teenager on holiday with her family.
> “I was only 16 or 17 years old in the photos,” she said.
> Another official rummaged through her suitcase, she claimed, and rifled through her underwear.
> On one occasion, Ms Musiienko said, she was told she would have to share a room with a man she did not know.
> She said she refused this and was given inferior accommodation to what was first promised.
> At that centre, she emerged from the shower one day to discover a man sitting on her bed who offered her alcohol.
> The man, who she said was around 40, began to stalk her when she refused to drink with him and would regularly bang on her bedroom door at night.
> In another centre, she said she was given a second-hand sleeping bag and told she would have to sleep on the floor with 20 other Ukrainians and international protection applicants.
> When she queried if there was better accommodation available, she said she was informed her other option was to sleep rough on the street.
> Ms Musiienko asked whether there were shower facilities she could use and was told she would have to knock on the bedroom door of other refugees and ask permission to use their bathroom.
Hardly surprising she felt unsafe. She _was_ unsafe.
‘Ireland’ has not been kind to me lol
We said come over to safety and then got bored being the host.
Why did she pass by 2 safe European countries to come here ???
Should have gone to Longford, town of dreams
https://preview.redd.it/f2xeomjdkptd1.jpeg?width=225&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=64920ede598b15db89fe2dc2dbc10275b0efa47f
How can a country that prides ourselves of being welcoming and having our own history of experiencing displacement treat people in such an inhumane way?
And the people in these comments saying she should have been greatful is just shocking.
If the system wasn’t overrun by chancers we’d probably be able to offer better services to genuine refugees. No excuses for those scum mentioned that work at the place though.
This is the reality that do gooder pricks like O’gorman choose to ignore. We should be helping the right people and giving a firm slap on the arse out the door to any that behave like this.
Indo really playing the headline game hard here.
“Ukrainian woman returning home to war-torn country after exposing unsafe conditions of refugee centres”
Fixed it.
Sounds worse than homeless accommodation if thats to be believed.
One of the problems with properly caring for refugees is that voters often have unrealistic understandings of what is required.
There was a report on here the other day receiving negative coverage of a proposal to put people in tents near Athlone. Ironically, that sort of resistance, based upon the idea that people deserve better, is often the opposite.
Had these people been provided accommodation in a large, State-run centre with proper security provisions, all of the above story could have been avoided. By forcing the problem into the private sector, the nature of the accommodation provided becomes fundamentally unsuitable.
I feel like capitalistic ideals just do not work in terms of any type of care whatsoever, even in healthcare, nursing homes cost a fortune but the staff aren’t paid that well, because it’s all about maximising profit. Direct provision centres are in horrid states, homeless hostels are usually very bad quality and full of drugs and the prisons are overcrowded. The care of humans got lost somewhere along the way between politicians and giving their mates bumper contracts to do work because it’s beneficial to them. Maybe I’m wrong though, just feels like we constantly see money being overspent on things and under delivered.
Not saying it’s common but rural Ireland there’s enough. Either a small farm or their farm is in the parents name. More talking about people working cash in hand jobs more than anything. Has not much relevance apart from the guy I thought was giving out about immigrants abusing the system but he was talking about the government like me
Definitely no agenda from OP here.
Why didn’t she bed-down with one of the dozens of aul fellas I’ve seen with 20 something year old Ukrainians hanging out of them? The way they came and abused are good nature and welfare has sickened me. I can barely make ends meet while I know of at least 2 Ukrainian women who have not had to work since coming here, had their accommodation paid for (an entire house/apartment in both cases), childcare completely complimentary of the state and they are shacked up with the landlord so you know all that money is staying in her pocket. The real kicker is both these “ladies” have been on several trips abroad with their respective landlord fellas, living the life of luxury, even though they are supposed to be seeking protection and not entitled to leave the country unless it is to return home, meanwhile, i haven’t been away in 4 fucking years and it doesn’t look like i will anytime in the future.