You are watching a collective suicide in the making. Congrats, EU.
taike0886 on
USA, EU, Japan, Brazil, India, I mean… the question is not where can’t, but where can Chinese dump their EVs tariff and restriction free?
If Chinese EV companies, many of whom have vast lots of cars just sitting there losing value, are not just a massive dumping scheme to try to prey off weaker economies and brute force western markets, then I guess they’ll be running strong in 2026 and not 10 feet underwater.
Which means that very intelligent people on reddit who are convinced Chinese are going to dominate this market should put their money where their mouths are and invest. You would be helping the Chinese EV companies remain strong and get a nice return on your investment when their stock goes to the moon, so y’know…. win-win. 🚀
david1610 on
Please come dump those cars here in Australia China, hopefully brings prices down $60k is too much for a regular sedan. If they can do the byd Seal for $50k and the atto for $40k they will dominate.
Gangpae on
cant wait to buy another VW golf for 40k lmao
garoo1234567 on
This is not how you fight climate change
octahexxer on
Same eu that complains ev sales are going down while doing nothing to help it go up.
OriginalBid129 on
Why not buy cheap chinese EVs and help climate change. I mean are the european and american manufacturers really ramping up? Will we be driving ICE vehicles just because we want to save a few thousand jobs that were going to mexico or Poland anyways?
PalebloodPervert on
Increasingly weird in our “free and open markets” that we now want to tax competition that’s making reliable and cheap cars.
/s
Full-Discussion3745 on
These are our options
Support our car industry like the Chinese with taxpayer money
Impose tarrifs.
Which option?
moxyte on
That’s so stupid. China makes cheap electric cars. Europeans are poor. They also have a super ambitious electric car timeline. How does EU think they can reach that goal of electric traffic by 2030 with a combo of poor people and expensive cars?
Perfect_Temporary_89 on
Yeah why though if it’s affordable and reliable, I mean we have cars made by Suzuki 🥲one bump it’s done ✅
Catch_ME on
I don’t know how to feel about these tariffs from either the US or EU.
I’m ok with tariffs against companies that steal intellectual property. I’m not ok with tariffs against companies to limit competition.
RoxDan on
You want affordable and quality cars? EU said nope.
HawkeyeGild on
Yes let’s buy Chinese cars which can be controlled by the CCP. How can we trust these cars? I mean we can’t even allow TikTok in US
Laymanao on
From what I read, the European carmakers with good EV offerings do not want the tariffs. It is not clear where the focus of the tariff drivers are, other than trade unions and governments.
Jonteponte71 on
But we still want to import those sweet, sweet batteries they make, because for some reason it’s still not cheap enough to buy them from heavily subsidised european factories.
We are so fucked 🤷♂️
TheMiscRenMan on
I thought they cared about going green. It was the most important thing. Right?!
LifeIsAnAdventure4 on
Good. We have already given away way too much of our manufacturing to an adversary we can’t compete against due to their massive use of slave labor.
observer_445 on
Europe strategy be like: import trash people and shut down factories.
Life-Duty-965 on
But you can democratically elect new EU leadership right?
Vote in a party that will put forward a manifesto of change?
Because democracy is the most important thing of all.
And my Remainer buddies still don’t understand why I voted to leave the EU. Bye bye!!
roman5588 on
In China at the moment, amazing how many different brands of electric cars there is and how cheap they are.
Electric vehicles make up probably 80% of everything in the city.
Like the Chinese government or not, but atleast they put their money where their mouth is and actually built a capable EV industry that isn’t just an afterthought
Redararis on
chinese automakers have started putting together (there is not manufacturing) their cars in european soil, using facilities of european manufacturers. The latter will become just middle-men. The consumers are just forced to pay a “tax” for their oligarchs.
_ii_ on
It is telling that the US imposed 100% tariffs, still worried and outright ban Chinese cars. EU only imposed 45%. It appears that European cars are much more competitive than American cars on relative basis.
Freddo03 on
So I guess saving the planet is still secondary to protecting domestic industry.
SoloDoloLeveling on
BYD is a horrible company. they use trash materials for their batteries, chasis, brakes, etc.
want a highly volatile lithium ion battery that could explode? how about aluminum wiring instead of copper? want to burst into flames at any given time?
buy BYD..
gunni on
And then invest in meaningful alternatives to driving?
Super_Redditr on
EU and USA are terrified of the nice cheap Chinese EVs while their domestic EVs are mostly overpriced garbage, sad
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You are watching a collective suicide in the making. Congrats, EU.
USA, EU, Japan, Brazil, India, I mean… the question is not where can’t, but where can Chinese dump their EVs tariff and restriction free?
If Chinese EV companies, many of whom have vast lots of cars just sitting there losing value, are not just a massive dumping scheme to try to prey off weaker economies and brute force western markets, then I guess they’ll be running strong in 2026 and not 10 feet underwater.
Which means that very intelligent people on reddit who are convinced Chinese are going to dominate this market should put their money where their mouths are and invest. You would be helping the Chinese EV companies remain strong and get a nice return on your investment when their stock goes to the moon, so y’know…. win-win. 🚀
Please come dump those cars here in Australia China, hopefully brings prices down $60k is too much for a regular sedan. If they can do the byd Seal for $50k and the atto for $40k they will dominate.
cant wait to buy another VW golf for 40k lmao
This is not how you fight climate change
Same eu that complains ev sales are going down while doing nothing to help it go up.
Why not buy cheap chinese EVs and help climate change. I mean are the european and american manufacturers really ramping up? Will we be driving ICE vehicles just because we want to save a few thousand jobs that were going to mexico or Poland anyways?
Increasingly weird in our “free and open markets” that we now want to tax competition that’s making reliable and cheap cars.
/s
These are our options
Support our car industry like the Chinese with taxpayer money
Impose tarrifs.
Which option?
That’s so stupid. China makes cheap electric cars. Europeans are poor. They also have a super ambitious electric car timeline. How does EU think they can reach that goal of electric traffic by 2030 with a combo of poor people and expensive cars?
Yeah why though if it’s affordable and reliable, I mean we have cars made by Suzuki 🥲one bump it’s done ✅
I don’t know how to feel about these tariffs from either the US or EU.
I’m ok with tariffs against companies that steal intellectual property. I’m not ok with tariffs against companies to limit competition.
You want affordable and quality cars? EU said nope.
Yes let’s buy Chinese cars which can be controlled by the CCP. How can we trust these cars? I mean we can’t even allow TikTok in US
From what I read, the European carmakers with good EV offerings do not want the tariffs. It is not clear where the focus of the tariff drivers are, other than trade unions and governments.
But we still want to import those sweet, sweet batteries they make, because for some reason it’s still not cheap enough to buy them from heavily subsidised european factories.
We are so fucked 🤷♂️
I thought they cared about going green. It was the most important thing. Right?!
Good. We have already given away way too much of our manufacturing to an adversary we can’t compete against due to their massive use of slave labor.
Europe strategy be like: import trash people and shut down factories.
But you can democratically elect new EU leadership right?
Vote in a party that will put forward a manifesto of change?
Because democracy is the most important thing of all.
And my Remainer buddies still don’t understand why I voted to leave the EU. Bye bye!!
In China at the moment, amazing how many different brands of electric cars there is and how cheap they are.
Electric vehicles make up probably 80% of everything in the city.
Like the Chinese government or not, but atleast they put their money where their mouth is and actually built a capable EV industry that isn’t just an afterthought
chinese automakers have started putting together (there is not manufacturing) their cars in european soil, using facilities of european manufacturers. The latter will become just middle-men. The consumers are just forced to pay a “tax” for their oligarchs.
It is telling that the US imposed 100% tariffs, still worried and outright ban Chinese cars. EU only imposed 45%. It appears that European cars are much more competitive than American cars on relative basis.
So I guess saving the planet is still secondary to protecting domestic industry.
BYD is a horrible company. they use trash materials for their batteries, chasis, brakes, etc.
want a highly volatile lithium ion battery that could explode? how about aluminum wiring instead of copper? want to burst into flames at any given time?
buy BYD..
And then invest in meaningful alternatives to driving?
EU and USA are terrified of the nice cheap Chinese EVs while their domestic EVs are mostly overpriced garbage, sad