Reinforced by studies with high statistical support from the highly esteemed No Shit Sherlock University.
polararth on
Obviously. But he’s the president, it’s not like he’s rudderless here.
A simple phone call “hey Netanyahu, it would be a real shame if I recalled all military ships protecting Israel in the midst of this escalating tension with Iran, wouldn’t it?” and you’d have Netanyahu groveling at his feet. The U.S. has *all the cards* in this relationship, but for some reason Biden refuses to play them.
I mean, that’s probably because Netanyahu is refusing a ceasefire and broadening the war in order to influence the election….
That isn’t his only motivation, of course, he also wants to further postpone his own criminal corruption trial. All that aside, there’s of course the base motivation that he quite simply does not want certain people to exist.
So… it’s kinda a constellation of things. All of them pretty awful.
Standard disclaimer here – I’m talking specifically about Netanyahu. Not the citizens of Israel, not Jews in general. Strictly Netanyahu. Let’s please move past calling anyone who dares to criticise the actions of Israel’s government anti-semitic.
While we’re at it, no, I don’t support Hamas. I don’t support Hezbollah.
Discuss.
Red_Dog1880 on
That’s some headline given that his literal words were ‘I don’t know’.
newsspotter on
>Israel ignored a U.S.-led initiative for a 21-day ceasefire in Lebanon before launching a ground invasion aimed at rooting out Hezbollah targets across the border.
>“No administration has helped Israel more than I have – none, none, none,” Mr. Biden said.
>“And I think Bibi [Mr. Netanyahu] should remember that, and whether he’s trying to influence the election, I don’t know, but I’m not counting on that.”
Reporters are desperate to create a story out of basically nothing, and Biden didn’t shoot it down. Saved everybody a click.
Amazing-Artichoke330 on
Netanyahu and Putin want Trump to be elected President. Those are two good reasons to vote for Harris.
Jonsa123 on
that was an “if” restatement of a question he got from his press conference today. But its a fact BiBi has a lot more in common with DoneOld than he does with Biden.
masshiker on
Stop? Bibi is right in the middle of the biggest Israeli land grab in years.
webb__traverse on
Duh
Tommy__want__wingy on
Which is why the pro-Palestine crowd should vote for Kamala as a “fuck you” to Netanyahu
Effective-Papaya1209 on
Aside from whether this is true (and I don’t rule it out), this headline is absolute trash given the video attached. The *reporter* suggested that Netanyahu is trying to influence the U.S. election. Biden said “whether he’s tried to influence the election, I don’t know, but I’m not counting on that.”
I mean, the sentence itself is hard to parse. It’s really unclear what Biden was saying, and he certainly didn’t bring it up.
HungryHAP on
It’s definitely possible. What’s Netanyahu after? What does a Trump presidency give him that a Biden one doesn’t?
Have we ever established a shady connection between the two?
Building_Firm on
I’m sure there is a secondary agenda and Netanyahu’s preferences are obvious. But more then that, this Israeli government are warmongers. They don’t want a ceasefire until they have taken all they can by force.
2HDFloppyDisk on
He didn’t suggest that. He said “I don’t know”
RiffRaffCatillacCat on
Yes. Netanyahu wants a Trump Presidency, since Trump and Kushner are in favor of a full takeover of Gaza for the conversion to commercial real estate ventures.
AnAngryFetus on
I think at best it’s a byproduct of Netanyahu trying to keep this going as long as possible to dodge prison.
graham_kent on
So let’s get serious and hold some aid packages until they get reasonable. $8.5 billion in military aid the same week they invade Lebanon is a bad look.
sirhackenslash on
Is he suggesting the country committing genocide is trying to help the guy who said they should “finish the job”? I, for one, am shocked!
ACrask on
Yeah because trump violated the Logan act by meeting him and probably told him to do exactly this
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Highly possible.
This Biden fellow might be on to something. If only he was president and had some sort of leverage not to play along with some wanker.
It’s almost like Israel is intentionally assassinating key officials that are working cease fire talks.
First in July
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/31/middleeast/hamas-hezbollah-leaders-killed-gaza-war-what-it-means-mime-intl/index.html
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/mideast-experts-assess-gaza-cease-fire-prospects-after-hamas-leaders-assassination
And now
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-knew-of-nasrallahs-location-for-months-some-ministers-opposed-hit-reports/
https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/03/middleeast/lebanon-hezbollah-nasrallah-ceasefire-assassination-intl-latam/index.html
Reinforced by studies with high statistical support from the highly esteemed No Shit Sherlock University.
Obviously. But he’s the president, it’s not like he’s rudderless here.
A simple phone call “hey Netanyahu, it would be a real shame if I recalled all military ships protecting Israel in the midst of this escalating tension with Iran, wouldn’t it?” and you’d have Netanyahu groveling at his feet. The U.S. has *all the cards* in this relationship, but for some reason Biden refuses to play them.
And, to get ahead of the “oh Biden *wants* to do XYZ but can’t because ABC reason,” that is very unlikely to be true. As VP Biden [thought Obama should be more pro-Isreal](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/biden-obama-divide-closely-support-israel-rcna127107), and Biden remains [the politician who has received the most money from AIPAC.](https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary?cycle=All&ind=Q05&recipdetail=S) His refusal to hold Israel accountable isn’t a bug, it’s a feature.
I mean, that’s probably because Netanyahu is refusing a ceasefire and broadening the war in order to influence the election….
That isn’t his only motivation, of course, he also wants to further postpone his own criminal corruption trial. All that aside, there’s of course the base motivation that he quite simply does not want certain people to exist.
So… it’s kinda a constellation of things. All of them pretty awful.
Standard disclaimer here – I’m talking specifically about Netanyahu. Not the citizens of Israel, not Jews in general. Strictly Netanyahu. Let’s please move past calling anyone who dares to criticise the actions of Israel’s government anti-semitic.
While we’re at it, no, I don’t support Hamas. I don’t support Hezbollah.
Discuss.
That’s some headline given that his literal words were ‘I don’t know’.
>Israel ignored a U.S.-led initiative for a 21-day ceasefire in Lebanon before launching a ground invasion aimed at rooting out Hezbollah targets across the border.
• How Biden Officials Secretly Greenlit Israel’s Attack on Lebanon | The Biden administration secretly supported Israel’s military attack on Lebanon, according to a new report, even as Biden called for a cease-fire.
[new republic](https://newrepublic.com/post/186565/biden-officials-backed-israel-attack-lebanon-report)
• US backs Israel’s operations in Lebanon (October 3, 2024)
[reuters](https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-backs-israels-operations-lebanon-despite-risk-expanding-conflict-2024-10-03/)
• Hezbollah leader agreed to temporary ceasefire days before assassination, says Lebanese foreign minister (October 3, 2024)
[CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/03/middleeast/lebanon-hezbollah-nasrallah-ceasefire-assassination-intl-latam/index.html)
Like how Iran waited until the day Reagan was sworn in to office to release the hostages.
>The President did not definitively rule out the possibility that [Benjamin Netanyahu](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/09/28/israel-hezbollah-leader-benjamin-netanyahu-un-speech/), Israel’s prime minister, was trying to influence the contest, when challenged by reporters on Friday afternoon.
>“No administration has helped Israel more than I have – none, none, none,” Mr. Biden said.
>“And I think Bibi [Mr. Netanyahu] should remember that, and whether he’s trying to influence the election, I don’t know, but I’m not counting on that.”
Reporters are desperate to create a story out of basically nothing, and Biden didn’t shoot it down. Saved everybody a click.
Netanyahu and Putin want Trump to be elected President. Those are two good reasons to vote for Harris.
that was an “if” restatement of a question he got from his press conference today. But its a fact BiBi has a lot more in common with DoneOld than he does with Biden.
Stop? Bibi is right in the middle of the biggest Israeli land grab in years.
Duh
Which is why the pro-Palestine crowd should vote for Kamala as a “fuck you” to Netanyahu
Aside from whether this is true (and I don’t rule it out), this headline is absolute trash given the video attached. The *reporter* suggested that Netanyahu is trying to influence the U.S. election. Biden said “whether he’s tried to influence the election, I don’t know, but I’m not counting on that.”
I mean, the sentence itself is hard to parse. It’s really unclear what Biden was saying, and he certainly didn’t bring it up.
It’s definitely possible. What’s Netanyahu after? What does a Trump presidency give him that a Biden one doesn’t?
Have we ever established a shady connection between the two?
I’m sure there is a secondary agenda and Netanyahu’s preferences are obvious. But more then that, this Israeli government are warmongers. They don’t want a ceasefire until they have taken all they can by force.
He didn’t suggest that. He said “I don’t know”
Yes. Netanyahu wants a Trump Presidency, since Trump and Kushner are in favor of a full takeover of Gaza for the conversion to commercial real estate ventures.
I think at best it’s a byproduct of Netanyahu trying to keep this going as long as possible to dodge prison.
So let’s get serious and hold some aid packages until they get reasonable. $8.5 billion in military aid the same week they invade Lebanon is a bad look.
Is he suggesting the country committing genocide is trying to help the guy who said they should “finish the job”? I, for one, am shocked!
Yeah because trump violated the Logan act by meeting him and probably told him to do exactly this