This is the second thread for tonight's VP debate. The first thread can be found here.
Fact Checking
Live fact checking will be provided by CBS at this link and will also be provided by Politifact (which can be viewed here on PBS' website, as well as a roundup of Politifact's pre-debate fact-checking that can also be viewed on this PBS page).
Live Pages
For those wishing to follow along with the debate via text-based updates, check out any of the following pages from: CBS, AP, NPR, NBC, ABC, Bloomberg, The New York Times (soft paywall), The Washington Post (soft paywall), CNN (soft paywall), The Guardian, USA Today, MSNBC, CNBC, The Independent, Vanity Fair, or Yahoo.
Where to Watch
The debate will be broadcast on CBS, and can also be viewed live (or later) at any of the following pages. All times in this section are US Eastern.
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CBS via YouTube: Watch Live: JD Vance and Tim Walz vice presidential debate, hosted by CBS News (Stream goes live at 4 p.m.)
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CBS via YouTube: Watch Live: Vance-Walz VP debate highlights and analysis (Goes live at 10:30 p.m.)
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PBS NewsHour via YouTube: Vance and Walz debate — PBS News simulcast of CBS’s 2024 Vice Presidential Debate
Discussion Thread: 2024 Vice Presidential Debate Between Senator J.D. Vance and Governor Tim Walz, Part 2
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He couldn’t. He tried. McCain stopped him.
Vance is the best PR person Trump has had since 2016.
Trump had all three branches and everything lined up to replace ACA if he had a plan – which he promised was gone on day 1
JD is a pro at lying with a convincing tone
I am so over hearing “common sense”
Experiment on healthcare???
Who is buying medicine at a hospital
Obamacare was a disaster until Trump came along -Vance lol ok
Trump tried to kill the ACA, Vance. That’s a blatant lie.
“you go into the hospital and you try and buy something”
Totally normal everyman JD Vance
Americans can’t get healthcare because…. immigrants
Americans can’t get housing because… immigrants
Schools are getting shot up because… immigrants
The drug problem in this country is because… immigrants
This is Pence-Harris in 2020 all over again. The needle isn’t going to move in a material way but voters will appreciate Walz’s more direct and detailed policy answers. The rest is all noise.
what happened to fact checking??
Trump saved Obamacare ~ you heard it here first
It’s interesting how these threads are one of the few intersections for a number of people on reddit who otherwise reside in entirely different spaces.
As for the debate itself? The words may sound boring but the policy positions (which people don’t like exhausting themselves paying attention to) are clear. And while Vance may SOUND like he’s making sense, the words that he is saying are both dangerous and unamerican.
Bro he couldn’t destroy it because McCain killed the bill.
You don’t buy things at a hospital, you get billed out the ass you privileged politician!
…..did Vance just say that Trump saved Obamacare?
Didn’t Trump TRY to destroy Obamacare?
Nah dude. When you go to the hospital or the ER they give you a bill with line items and procedures.
Am I delusional or was it Biden that capped insulin prices?
“Buy something at a hospital” – JD Vance
It’s actually crazy how tame this is despite Vance’s lying lol
Vance pretending like Trump didn’t literally campaign on destroying Obamacare is WILD.
Strawman? We don’t need 900 pages. You can summarize a plan in a few sentences.
This is so refreshing holy shit they’re actually debating
Medicaid is awesome if you don’t make any money. You literally pay for nothing and there are no hidden charges.
Yeap, illegal immigrants taking low-paying jobs from Americans and who can’t speak English are totally the ones buying houses in my half-million dollar neighborhood where prices have tripled over the last decade.
Glad Walz is reminding Vance that HE was a Senator. So all this shit was supposed to be his job.
Can we swap out Trump and Harris for these two?
I am throughly enjoying this debate. What a breath of fresh air (the bar is low).
Didn’t Republicans try like 60 times to repeal Obamacare while Trump was President?
what kind of bullshit lie is coming out of Vance’s mouth now?!
Trump salvaged Obamacare was not on my bingo card.
JD is just a firehose of BS.
Would give anything for Walz to end one of his answers with “And I know JD is going to get 2 minutes, but I’ll save us all 1:50. He’s going to blame everything on immigrants”
Vance defending concepts of a plan as being subject to bipartisan scrutiny and consensus is a bit disingenuous because you can say that about anything.
Famous ACA advocate Trump.. Give me a fucking break
I’m not a housing expert but isnt the obvious answer is whoever buys these newly bought home be mandated to live in them and not treat it as potential income in some capacity ie renting them out or flipping them out?
We shouldn’t be looking to buy shit at a hospital
“Trump could have destroyed Obamacare”
HE FUCKING TRIED EVERY CHANCE
Means testing based on your burden to the system would overwhelmingly affect people with preexisting conditions. Vance is lying.
“Price transparency”. “This drug costs 5 dollars to make, but we will charge 800 dollars for it”. The bit that Vance forgot is “We will also institute zero regulations to control said prices”.
I think I speak for us all when I say “Fuck you JD Vance”. The man is the slimiest damn politician I’ve ever seen.
What a bunch of lies. Literally nothing Vance said is true.