Nader killed the Green Party when he helped get Bush elected.
Luwuma on
I’m sorry, I thought Jill Stein IS the green party.
GwendolynHa on
Technically Putin killed the Green Party, cutting those sweet, sweet ruble checks to Jill Stein.
ShoppingDismal3864 on
Someday her allegiance will be defenestrared in full.
ShadowStarX on
Saving lives of Palestineans by *checks notes* increasing the chances for a candidate who wants Israel to “finish the job”
Tokyosmash_ on
The Green Party has been dead for a long time
chillywanton on
Not even sure why we are talking about her.
spacebarcafelatte on
>On Thursday, famed comms knife-fighter and DNC operative Lis Smith tweeted a video of Stein floundering in response to a question from Angela Rye on The Breakfast Club about the number of members in the House of Representatives. “WOW” Smith wrote, “Jill Stein doesn’t know how many members of the House there are in Congress. 600?!?! Just the latest sign she’s a deeply unserious candidate only there to help Trump win.”
>Democratic Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez joined the fray as well, circulating another clip from The Breakfast Club interview with the caption: “Nobody needs talking points to know Jill Stein hasn’t won so much as a bingo game in the last decade and if you actually give a damn about people, you organize, build power and infrastructure, and win.” It was the second broadside AOC sent Stein’s way last week. On Sunday, the congresswoman posted a now viral video to Instagram eviscerating the Green standard-bearer.
>“Y’all, this is a little spicy, but I have thoughts,” Ocasio-Cortez began. “What I have a problem with is the fact that if you’re running for president, you are the de facto leader of your party.… Trust me on this, I’ve run as a third-party candidate in New York. I’ve also run as a Working Families Party candidate in addition to running as a Democrat.… I’ve been on record about my criticisms of the two-party system, so this is not about that.… If you run for years and years and years and years in a row, and your party has not grown and you don’t add city council seats and you don’t add downballot candidates and you don’t add state electeds, that’s bad leadership. That, to me, is what is upsetting. If you have been your party’s nominee for 12 years in a row, four years ago and four years before that and four years before that, and you cannot grow your movement pretty much at all and can’t pursue any successful strategy, and all you do is show up once every four years to speak to people who are justifiably pissed off, but you’re just showing up once every four years to do that, you’re not serious. To me, it does not read as authentic, it reads as predatory.”
guerilla_post on
I voted for her for MA governor 20 YEARS ago. What has she done of value since then?!
account_for_yaoi on
I’m not too big of a fan of the “spoiler” talk most of the time since the conclusion of that logic would be having every third party either dissolve or just never nominate a candidate for anything. That doesn’t feel right to me. You should be able to run for an office you meet the requirements for regardless of which funny letter you want next to your name.
However, Jill is obviously a Putin stooge who is not running a good faith campaign. Same for Kennedy. They absolutely are here to spoil things.
Acceptable-Bus-2017 on
Isn’t she just the more liberal version of RFK Jr? A paid for spoiler candidate attempting to steal votes from Dems?
Pusfilledonut on
Jill refused to criticize Putin for war crimes in Ukraine in an interview with Mehdi Hasan. He pressed her repeatedly and she obviously felt on the spot to not anger her paymaster.
knotml on
The Green Party has a place in US politics but not under Stein. She has too much Putin baggage to be remotely credible other than being Putin’s idiot.
madzax on
To dominate , change is necessary and you have to stay cùrrent and get results in an atmosphere
where everything is changing. Without the needed results, change is necessary.
Pacify_ on
There is no green party in America.
Those people using that name is nothing short of a crime against the global green party collective.
cheviot on
There is no Green Party except Jill Stein.
Who have they run in any race aside from herself for president? No one.
Rezangyal on
The Green Party… the Spirit Halloween of political parties.
Literally shows up every 4 years and disappears.
guyfromthepicture on
He green party is fundamentally stupid. If they actually cared about agenda, they would focus on legislative seats in order to leverage votes to push an agenda and grow a base by perpetually being in the spot lift.
Prof_Acorn on
That dude who ran last time with them was pretty cool. I don’t know why Stein has to be the pick every other year. Ugh.
JAGERminJensen on
Killing it? Since when was it *alive* to begin with??
SentientCheeseCake on
Allan Lichtman has a system of predicting elections that is very robust. (Yes, I understand there are debates about it). One of the keys is about a 3rd party challenge.
Republicans and outside interests have always pushed third party candidates when Democrats are incumbent. It’s one of the ways of properly affecting the outcome.
And it shows the fundamental difference between the two parties. Democrats feel Republicans would be catastrophic because they don’t govern. Republicans feel Democrats would be catastrophic because they will govern.
Republicans have zero interest in the running of the country. They simply want the power.
nauticalfiesta on
The party was never alive. Until they start to run local and state races…. and win, that party has always been dead. I don’t think anyone has actually taken them seriously, even themselves.
Aggressive-Will-4500 on
That party is already dead. NOBODY respects the Green Party or takes it seriously. It’s just another front that the oligarchs use to keep the Republicans in contention for the presidency and Jill Stein is more than happy to help them.
chrisshaffer on
Since Nader, the Green Party has had a platform of accelerationism. Nader was pleased that Bush won, “Things will get worse before they get better.” We know that has not worked and has certainly accelerated the climate crisis, which should be the Green Party’s number one issue. Stein has become even more nakedly a prop for the GOP and its various backers that the Green Party is just a joke.
Zealousideal-Day7385 on
This paragraph is brutal (and accurate):
*Over the last several years, much ink has been spilled over the fact that one of America’s political parties has been captured—if not contorted into an outright cult of personality—by an aging, megalomaniacal autocrat apologist and repeat loser who cares about little outside accruing power and personal enrichment. You are probably conjuring the image of Donald Trump. You’re not wrong, but this dynamic actually applies to two of America’s political parties: the GOP under Trump and the Green Party under Dr. Jill Stein.*
RDO_Desmond on
The Green Party is a fraud that never was. It is a Putin fiction that is, by design, created to deceive well intended, but gullible, youth into believing she gives a damn about the environment. She does not. Stein is pro petroleum and is a Putin plant.
NovelRelationship830 on
I’m Unaffiliated since I registered to vote, and want nothing more than to see the end of the two-party system in the US, but the Greens can go pound sand under the Putin-loving Stein.
apitchf1 on
She is a cancer and a sell out and a charlatan. She stands for nothing but jerking off her own name. She’s not a leftist, she’s an asshole. My biggest regret is voting for her in 16. “Luckily” I was in a deep red state and it didn’t matter.
Neon_culture79 on
Well, I mean she’s only in it for herself and most likely Russia
Madmandocv1 on
I don’t know what the Green Party wants, but sure as hell looks like they want Trump to win the presidency.
MulletofLegend on
She’s making a lot of rubles though. Did I say rubles? I meant money. She is making a lot of money. God bless our corrupt, dirty election process.
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Killed it. Past tense
Nader killed the Green Party when he helped get Bush elected.
I’m sorry, I thought Jill Stein IS the green party.
Technically Putin killed the Green Party, cutting those sweet, sweet ruble checks to Jill Stein.
Someday her allegiance will be defenestrared in full.
Saving lives of Palestineans by *checks notes* increasing the chances for a candidate who wants Israel to “finish the job”
The Green Party has been dead for a long time
Not even sure why we are talking about her.
>On Thursday, famed comms knife-fighter and DNC operative Lis Smith tweeted a video of Stein floundering in response to a question from Angela Rye on The Breakfast Club about the number of members in the House of Representatives. “WOW” Smith wrote, “Jill Stein doesn’t know how many members of the House there are in Congress. 600?!?! Just the latest sign she’s a deeply unserious candidate only there to help Trump win.”
>Democratic Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez joined the fray as well, circulating another clip from The Breakfast Club interview with the caption: “Nobody needs talking points to know Jill Stein hasn’t won so much as a bingo game in the last decade and if you actually give a damn about people, you organize, build power and infrastructure, and win.” It was the second broadside AOC sent Stein’s way last week. On Sunday, the congresswoman posted a now viral video to Instagram eviscerating the Green standard-bearer.
>“Y’all, this is a little spicy, but I have thoughts,” Ocasio-Cortez began. “What I have a problem with is the fact that if you’re running for president, you are the de facto leader of your party.… Trust me on this, I’ve run as a third-party candidate in New York. I’ve also run as a Working Families Party candidate in addition to running as a Democrat.… I’ve been on record about my criticisms of the two-party system, so this is not about that.… If you run for years and years and years and years in a row, and your party has not grown and you don’t add city council seats and you don’t add downballot candidates and you don’t add state electeds, that’s bad leadership. That, to me, is what is upsetting. If you have been your party’s nominee for 12 years in a row, four years ago and four years before that and four years before that, and you cannot grow your movement pretty much at all and can’t pursue any successful strategy, and all you do is show up once every four years to speak to people who are justifiably pissed off, but you’re just showing up once every four years to do that, you’re not serious. To me, it does not read as authentic, it reads as predatory.”
I voted for her for MA governor 20 YEARS ago. What has she done of value since then?!
I’m not too big of a fan of the “spoiler” talk most of the time since the conclusion of that logic would be having every third party either dissolve or just never nominate a candidate for anything. That doesn’t feel right to me. You should be able to run for an office you meet the requirements for regardless of which funny letter you want next to your name.
However, Jill is obviously a Putin stooge who is not running a good faith campaign. Same for Kennedy. They absolutely are here to spoil things.
Isn’t she just the more liberal version of RFK Jr? A paid for spoiler candidate attempting to steal votes from Dems?
Jill refused to criticize Putin for war crimes in Ukraine in an interview with Mehdi Hasan. He pressed her repeatedly and she obviously felt on the spot to not anger her paymaster.
The Green Party has a place in US politics but not under Stein. She has too much Putin baggage to be remotely credible other than being Putin’s idiot.
To dominate , change is necessary and you have to stay cùrrent and get results in an atmosphere
where everything is changing. Without the needed results, change is necessary.
There is no green party in America.
Those people using that name is nothing short of a crime against the global green party collective.
There is no Green Party except Jill Stein.
Who have they run in any race aside from herself for president? No one.
The Green Party… the Spirit Halloween of political parties.
Literally shows up every 4 years and disappears.
He green party is fundamentally stupid. If they actually cared about agenda, they would focus on legislative seats in order to leverage votes to push an agenda and grow a base by perpetually being in the spot lift.
That dude who ran last time with them was pretty cool. I don’t know why Stein has to be the pick every other year. Ugh.
Killing it? Since when was it *alive* to begin with??
Allan Lichtman has a system of predicting elections that is very robust. (Yes, I understand there are debates about it). One of the keys is about a 3rd party challenge.
Republicans and outside interests have always pushed third party candidates when Democrats are incumbent. It’s one of the ways of properly affecting the outcome.
And it shows the fundamental difference between the two parties. Democrats feel Republicans would be catastrophic because they don’t govern. Republicans feel Democrats would be catastrophic because they will govern.
Republicans have zero interest in the running of the country. They simply want the power.
The party was never alive. Until they start to run local and state races…. and win, that party has always been dead. I don’t think anyone has actually taken them seriously, even themselves.
That party is already dead. NOBODY respects the Green Party or takes it seriously. It’s just another front that the oligarchs use to keep the Republicans in contention for the presidency and Jill Stein is more than happy to help them.
Since Nader, the Green Party has had a platform of accelerationism. Nader was pleased that Bush won, “Things will get worse before they get better.” We know that has not worked and has certainly accelerated the climate crisis, which should be the Green Party’s number one issue. Stein has become even more nakedly a prop for the GOP and its various backers that the Green Party is just a joke.
This paragraph is brutal (and accurate):
*Over the last several years, much ink has been spilled over the fact that one of America’s political parties has been captured—if not contorted into an outright cult of personality—by an aging, megalomaniacal autocrat apologist and repeat loser who cares about little outside accruing power and personal enrichment. You are probably conjuring the image of Donald Trump. You’re not wrong, but this dynamic actually applies to two of America’s political parties: the GOP under Trump and the Green Party under Dr. Jill Stein.*
The Green Party is a fraud that never was. It is a Putin fiction that is, by design, created to deceive well intended, but gullible, youth into believing she gives a damn about the environment. She does not. Stein is pro petroleum and is a Putin plant.
I’m Unaffiliated since I registered to vote, and want nothing more than to see the end of the two-party system in the US, but the Greens can go pound sand under the Putin-loving Stein.
She is a cancer and a sell out and a charlatan. She stands for nothing but jerking off her own name. She’s not a leftist, she’s an asshole. My biggest regret is voting for her in 16. “Luckily” I was in a deep red state and it didn’t matter.
Well, I mean she’s only in it for herself and most likely Russia
I don’t know what the Green Party wants, but sure as hell looks like they want Trump to win the presidency.
She’s making a lot of rubles though. Did I say rubles? I meant money. She is making a lot of money. God bless our corrupt, dirty election process.
You mean 20 years ago?