Personally find it really interesting how infrastructure, or lack there off in water electric etc, is now being highlighted again and again
PreparationLoud8790 on
totally sustainable
originalface1 on
This government has missed their own social housing targets every single year since taking office and have the gall to turn around and scapegoat immigrants.
jonnieggg on
Manufactured scarcity suits many vested interests.
Importantly obviously all those targets are not talking about the same thing. Some are talking about clearing a backlog, some about short term need, some about targets for yearly delivery rather than delivery over a longer term etc. But still, useful to keep in mind. Also perhaps useful to note that there is a fair bit of variation.
Peil on
Fun how this number just keeps climbing all the time and nothing is ever done about it
JONFER--- on
Fair enough, for the sake of discussion we will take the estimate of the higher end 60,000 homes.
The home is only one part of the equation, the most visible part but not the only one. There is also new hospital/school places to accommodate the new people, transport links, water services, electricity et cetera et cetera.
There is already a huge existing backlog of people requiring independent housing that needs to be dealt with now not at some far-off point in the future.
The government should not be making the demand for housing and services worse by allowing people in from outside the EU. Like I have said before we have a legal obligation to allow migration from EU member states and the UK not to mention an legal obligation to refugees. But we shouldn’t be accepting anyone unless there is a very specific skills shortage outside of this.
We have to look after our own interests first, no one else will and the government was appointed to do just that.
Politicians and officials need to be reminded of that.
ussjtrunksftw on
Why do we keep needing so many houses
Gang_dos_Marmelos on
Double that wouldn’t be enough
RobotIcHead on
Everyone is producing their own set of figures, everyone is trying to raise the target for the along of housing and force others to raise it as well. It is all very depressing as I doubt we have the capacity to deliver that much housing in combination with all the other stuff that needs done: infrastructure wise, services, commercial activity.
Still no discussion of where these housing units would need to be built, what type, who the fuck phs for them. The fact that all the discussions around all of this have political is terrible each party seems to want to put its own vision forward.
Latespoon on
“Dear council, could I pleeeaaase have planning perm…”
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Personally find it really interesting how infrastructure, or lack there off in water electric etc, is now being highlighted again and again
totally sustainable
This government has missed their own social housing targets every single year since taking office and have the gall to turn around and scapegoat immigrants.
Manufactured scarcity suits many vested interests.
So CIF says 60k.
[Central Bank says 52k](https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2024/0918/1470595-housing-central-bank/) (over 25 years).
[ESRI reckoned about 44k to the decade’s end with about 40k after that.](https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/3b1d6-minister-obrien-notes-esri-paper-and-sets-out-next-steps-in-revision-of-housing-targets/), with the Department saying it would likely look at 50k houses as the target.
Importantly obviously all those targets are not talking about the same thing. Some are talking about clearing a backlog, some about short term need, some about targets for yearly delivery rather than delivery over a longer term etc. But still, useful to keep in mind. Also perhaps useful to note that there is a fair bit of variation.
Fun how this number just keeps climbing all the time and nothing is ever done about it
Fair enough, for the sake of discussion we will take the estimate of the higher end 60,000 homes.
The home is only one part of the equation, the most visible part but not the only one. There is also new hospital/school places to accommodate the new people, transport links, water services, electricity et cetera et cetera.
There is already a huge existing backlog of people requiring independent housing that needs to be dealt with now not at some far-off point in the future.
The government should not be making the demand for housing and services worse by allowing people in from outside the EU. Like I have said before we have a legal obligation to allow migration from EU member states and the UK not to mention an legal obligation to refugees. But we shouldn’t be accepting anyone unless there is a very specific skills shortage outside of this.
We have to look after our own interests first, no one else will and the government was appointed to do just that.
Politicians and officials need to be reminded of that.
Why do we keep needing so many houses
Double that wouldn’t be enough
Everyone is producing their own set of figures, everyone is trying to raise the target for the along of housing and force others to raise it as well. It is all very depressing as I doubt we have the capacity to deliver that much housing in combination with all the other stuff that needs done: infrastructure wise, services, commercial activity.
Still no discussion of where these housing units would need to be built, what type, who the fuck phs for them. The fact that all the discussions around all of this have political is terrible each party seems to want to put its own vision forward.
“Dear council, could I pleeeaaase have planning perm…”
“NO, feck off. That’ll be €65, thanks.”
“Ah come on!”