Until they scrap, the atrocious darn right criminally incompetent, privatisation in recruitment and admit is was a shit show from the start. nothing will change.
wkavinsky on
>**Introducing a direct recruitment route for cyber specialists**, particularly targeting top gamers and coders. **“If you are a top gamer or coder, your country needs you,”** Healey said.
Instead of introducing a direct recruitment path for cyber, just get rid of Capita and let the forces handle it themselves, like they used to.
It’ll be cheaper, the forces **know** what they are looking for, and none of the delays happened before it was outsourced to contractors on the basis that “the private sector can always do it cheaper”.
As an added bonus, it provided a route to retain injured, older soldiers within the forces, where they might be a few years short of their 22, so that’s knowledge and experience not leaving the forces as well.
Turbantastic on
Looks like they are getting desperate for cannon fodder.
Ex-art-obs1988 on
Here’s a suggestion…
Get rid of capita, it shouldn’t take nearly a year to get through recruitment.
Also increase the number of cadet and recruitment drives through low income areas.
Try to get the boys before the gangs do.
Longjumping_Thing723 on
Where can I see what these policies actually are? All 100 of them.
Bat_Flaps on
The continual fixation on recruitment over retention goes on.
Recruit them all, give them 3 jobs to cover the manning gaps, fill up their time with endless nugatory “mandatory” training, cancel all their exercises due to H&S and endangered newts on the areas, house their families in squalor and then give those contracts to suppliers who take 28 days to respond to emergency works. Have their seniors bully them to pay subs to a mess that they can’t go in and then slowly whittle away whatever allowances they’ve got left and wonder why the delta remains…
GenerallyDull on
When does the Capita contract end? They are terrible and have caused so many delays and withdrawals.
Safe_Regular_4968 on
Scrap Capita then lets talk, until then, your words mean nothing as recruitment will be shocking as always under then
tanzy95 on
I remember I did a test to join the royal navy and didn’t hear a thing from them until a year later where they confirmed I had passed and could start the next step in the process. I was already six months into my training with the merchant navy by that point.
HorseBarrierRoad on
InfoSec, to be actually good at it, requires decades of experience with coding and networks. You can’t just recruit kids from college for this.
So what to do? There are only two answers to all of life’s questions. The first answer is wolves. Unfortunately, this is one of only a handful of situations where wolves are not the correct answer.
That brings us to answer number two. Starship troopers.
You want to attract a bunch of older hackers whose careers are well worn and who don’t need top dollar. Thus, you introduce communal showers, and let them go send a few rounds down range right after brunch, before hitting the office for a hard afternoon and evening doing what they do.
/s even though it’s a UK sub because so many of the bedroom dwelling virgin crowd have no sense of humour. A problem I could fix with wolves.
Vespasians on
What they dont tell you about the medical appeal process is that you have to pay for it yourself.
It’s c.1k for a review. When i went for the reserves I realized that it’d take me c.6 months to get paid back the amount id spend on the appeal (I have a very minor heart rummer but have run marathons so more than fine for Army intelligence). Concequently, i decided I didn’t care enough to bother.
Rhinofishdog on
What exactly is a “top gamer”?
Not to brag but I’m top 5000 in the world at AoE2.
I stand ready to assume control of our Onager forces.
Alive-Season3020 on
I tried to join the Navy as a reserve officer three years ago and I was rejected because I lack a GCSE in maths. Irrespective of the fact I studied with the Open University and got a diploma in mathematics which is roughly equivalent to two years of a normal maths degree, for which I received a distinction. School was 20 years ago. It’s so odd it reflects on me now according to these people.
I’m also a team leader for a team that builds distributed systems, I’m active and sporty, and have a politics degree from Bristol uni. But they turned me down for a lack of a maths GCSE.
When I tried to appeal it , I was told that ‘they maintain high standards, and won’t proceed with my application – but I was welcome to apply as a rating’.
So I thought ‘fuck you’, and went back to earning tonnes of money in the private sector, and they can maintain their high selection criteria of children with a maths GCSE.
Painfullvision on
The MOD messed up when they decided to do redundancies and cut the forces down to save money, (Seniors leaving with a full pension and £30-40k redundancy package) and that everyone who left would jump in to the reserves. Funny thing is they started calling all these people up after 2 years asking them to sign back on and offered them another lump sum.
Buzz_Berling on
Labour HAS to completely ditch captia. I don’t think any adversary of ours could do much more to completely wreck the military than they have.
LondonDude123 on
Are they still actively shutting the door on Working Class White Boys?
FranksBestToeKnife on
My mates been trying to join for probably about a year now. We played sport together and he’s the fittest, quickest, weirdly strong physical freak I’ve ever met. Smart too.
Everytime I see him I hear the newest installment of how the recruiters have found some new obscure way to delay his enlistment. It’s crazy. The guy is really excited to join, 19 years old, exactly what they should be looking for.
They should have snapped him up day one – not given his parents a year to chisel away at convincing him to go back to college instead (from their own point of view of course).
Madness.
Arseypoowank on
They need to fuck crapita off, they managed to grind my recruitment to such a halt I told them to forget it after 2 and half years of pissing about.
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Until they scrap, the atrocious darn right criminally incompetent, privatisation in recruitment and admit is was a shit show from the start. nothing will change.
>**Introducing a direct recruitment route for cyber specialists**, particularly targeting top gamers and coders. **“If you are a top gamer or coder, your country needs you,”** Healey said.
Instead of introducing a direct recruitment path for cyber, just get rid of Capita and let the forces handle it themselves, like they used to.
It’ll be cheaper, the forces **know** what they are looking for, and none of the delays happened before it was outsourced to contractors on the basis that “the private sector can always do it cheaper”.
As an added bonus, it provided a route to retain injured, older soldiers within the forces, where they might be a few years short of their 22, so that’s knowledge and experience not leaving the forces as well.
Looks like they are getting desperate for cannon fodder.
Here’s a suggestion…
Get rid of capita, it shouldn’t take nearly a year to get through recruitment.
Also increase the number of cadet and recruitment drives through low income areas.
Try to get the boys before the gangs do.
Where can I see what these policies actually are? All 100 of them.
The continual fixation on recruitment over retention goes on.
Recruit them all, give them 3 jobs to cover the manning gaps, fill up their time with endless nugatory “mandatory” training, cancel all their exercises due to H&S and endangered newts on the areas, house their families in squalor and then give those contracts to suppliers who take 28 days to respond to emergency works. Have their seniors bully them to pay subs to a mess that they can’t go in and then slowly whittle away whatever allowances they’ve got left and wonder why the delta remains…
When does the Capita contract end? They are terrible and have caused so many delays and withdrawals.
Scrap Capita then lets talk, until then, your words mean nothing as recruitment will be shocking as always under then
I remember I did a test to join the royal navy and didn’t hear a thing from them until a year later where they confirmed I had passed and could start the next step in the process. I was already six months into my training with the merchant navy by that point.
InfoSec, to be actually good at it, requires decades of experience with coding and networks. You can’t just recruit kids from college for this.
So what to do? There are only two answers to all of life’s questions. The first answer is wolves. Unfortunately, this is one of only a handful of situations where wolves are not the correct answer.
That brings us to answer number two. Starship troopers.
You want to attract a bunch of older hackers whose careers are well worn and who don’t need top dollar. Thus, you introduce communal showers, and let them go send a few rounds down range right after brunch, before hitting the office for a hard afternoon and evening doing what they do.
/s even though it’s a UK sub because so many of the bedroom dwelling virgin crowd have no sense of humour. A problem I could fix with wolves.
What they dont tell you about the medical appeal process is that you have to pay for it yourself.
It’s c.1k for a review. When i went for the reserves I realized that it’d take me c.6 months to get paid back the amount id spend on the appeal (I have a very minor heart rummer but have run marathons so more than fine for Army intelligence). Concequently, i decided I didn’t care enough to bother.
What exactly is a “top gamer”?
Not to brag but I’m top 5000 in the world at AoE2.
I stand ready to assume control of our Onager forces.
I tried to join the Navy as a reserve officer three years ago and I was rejected because I lack a GCSE in maths. Irrespective of the fact I studied with the Open University and got a diploma in mathematics which is roughly equivalent to two years of a normal maths degree, for which I received a distinction. School was 20 years ago. It’s so odd it reflects on me now according to these people.
I’m also a team leader for a team that builds distributed systems, I’m active and sporty, and have a politics degree from Bristol uni. But they turned me down for a lack of a maths GCSE.
When I tried to appeal it , I was told that ‘they maintain high standards, and won’t proceed with my application – but I was welcome to apply as a rating’.
So I thought ‘fuck you’, and went back to earning tonnes of money in the private sector, and they can maintain their high selection criteria of children with a maths GCSE.
The MOD messed up when they decided to do redundancies and cut the forces down to save money, (Seniors leaving with a full pension and £30-40k redundancy package) and that everyone who left would jump in to the reserves. Funny thing is they started calling all these people up after 2 years asking them to sign back on and offered them another lump sum.
Labour HAS to completely ditch captia. I don’t think any adversary of ours could do much more to completely wreck the military than they have.
Are they still actively shutting the door on Working Class White Boys?
My mates been trying to join for probably about a year now. We played sport together and he’s the fittest, quickest, weirdly strong physical freak I’ve ever met. Smart too.
Everytime I see him I hear the newest installment of how the recruiters have found some new obscure way to delay his enlistment. It’s crazy. The guy is really excited to join, 19 years old, exactly what they should be looking for.
They should have snapped him up day one – not given his parents a year to chisel away at convincing him to go back to college instead (from their own point of view of course).
Madness.
They need to fuck crapita off, they managed to grind my recruitment to such a halt I told them to forget it after 2 and half years of pissing about.