>While Tajwer Siddiqui was granted a visa under the highly skilled migrant route, which is supposed to allow dependants, the decision to bar the autistic teenager shows a hardening of decisions about healthcare workers being allowed to bring family members more broadly.
People love to meme about all immigrants being doctors and stuff, but he is someone who came to the UK with a _highly skilled worker visa_. Why are we making his ability to work in this country so difficult?
DeliveryCreepy9565 on
It is no secret amongst the immigrant community that to get a visa for a dependent whilst holding a BRP is nigh impossible. I’ve heard of high level doctors unable to bring their elderly and ailing mothers over from war-torn countries, despite the fact that these dependents would not be allowed access to any public funding, and these permit holders making the requests are often the highest tax payers and biggest assets to their British communities.
Comparatively, moving a family member to Australia is easy
Euphoric-Acadia-4140 on
This is why nuance is required in discussions of immigration.
Mass immigration of individuals who are a burden on the state is an issue, and needs to be reduced. Plus, many of these individuals, whether due to social or cultural factors, struggle to integrate.
Immigration of highly skilled workers, on the other hand, should be encouraged, as they are net contributors to the society, and especially if they work for sectors where not enough workers can be found domestically.
So often, immigration debates portray all immigrants as bad or good. But immigrants are diverse. The government’s job should be to find the ones that will bring benefit to the UK, and welcome them in
JarJarBingChilling on
>His wife, Shehlar Tajwer, 50, is also a qualified family doctor who hopes to work as a doctor in the UK. **She too was granted a visa to come and work here as a dependant of her husband.**
>The couple have a 19-year-old daughter, Alina Tajwer Siddiqui, who **cannot live independently due to her autism and needs her parents and other family members to care for her.**
>However, the **Home Office has refused her a visa to come to the UK saying that her parents have not demonstrated “compassionate or compelling circumstances”** that would justify officials granting her permission to live with her parents in the UK, in what is known as a grant of leave outside the rules.
So, they granted her parents visas and yet refuse to grant one to their daughter, who needs care and have the gall to say they haven’t demonstrated compassionate or compelling circumstances? Fuck right off.
Whenever hard working people follow the official channels to immigrate to the UK things like this happen far too often. It’s an absolute fucking joke. I myself am an immigrant from the EU and can live here for the rest of my life yet two bloody doctors who by all means contribute far more to the country than I do are essentially being forced out.
dontbelikejune on
The question remains – why do they want to come to the UK at their age and min support?
Visual-Blackberry874 on
You’re going to get cases like this as we seek to reduce our immigration figures.
Farewell-Farewell on
The visa should be for the person, not the family. He is the “high skilled worker”, not the family. Why is this a problem?
th0ughtfull1 on
Good to see the rules that apply to everybody else being adhered to.
ambiguousboner on
So that’s two doctors turned away because we’ve not allowed their child to come with them? The fuck?
PsychoSwede557 on
> However, the Home Office has refused her a visa to come to the UK saying that her parents have not demonstrated “compassionate or compelling circumstances” that would justify officials granting her permission to live with her parents in the UK, in what is known as a grant of leave outside the rules.
I mean I’d like to read the Home Office’s decision letter because the article doesn’t go into their reasoning at all. While they say she can’t live independently, it says she’s living with her grandmother so maybe that’s part of it.
aberforce on
This doctor is 59. We are losing out on 5/6 years max of him working here before he retires in exchange to not have to support his dependent daughter for the next 60 years and him as a pensioner as he ages. I’m also a bit skeptical that his wife “plans to work” on his dependent visa, if that was true she’d be applying for a skilled visa herself and securing a job before she arrives, especially because companies pay for skilled workers visas. Likely the reality is she needs to stay home to look after her daughter and doesn’t actually intend to work when she arrives.
Struggling to see how this is a net loss to nhs by turning his family away.
liquidio on
The doctor is 59. I assume his wife is a similar age.
The daughter is 19.
They will work here for 9 years *maximum*, but quite probably less as GPs can access their pension from age 65.
By that time, all three of them will have acquired indefinite leave to remain.
So, for ~9 years of modest GP-salary tax contributions, the UK would be signing up for something like six decades of adult social care obligations and everything else that comes with it for an autistic adult.
That’s an insanely bad deal, and we are right to push back on it (even if it’s not the direct reason the application was refused).
Anyone who thinks that it’s a coincidence they are turning up in the UK at this point in their lives is naive. I don’t blame them for trying.
serialkillr on
He is 59 – will retire in a few years, the wife is 50 and will also be retiring in a few years.
Yeah they bring a needed skill to the UK but only short term.
_Rookwood_ on
We have such an upside down immigration system. Highly skilled migrants and their families have to jump through numerous bureaucratic hoops and spend a lot of £££ to live in Britain whilst those with spurrious asylum claims who cross the channel are indulged.
fartbox-enjoyer on
>If the Home Office do not allow Alina to come to the UK I will have no choice but to leave my job at the surgery here and go back to Pakistan so I can be with my wife and my daughter. All three of us need to be together so we can look after Alina.
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>While Tajwer Siddiqui was granted a visa under the highly skilled migrant route, which is supposed to allow dependants, the decision to bar the autistic teenager shows a hardening of decisions about healthcare workers being allowed to bring family members more broadly.
People love to meme about all immigrants being doctors and stuff, but he is someone who came to the UK with a _highly skilled worker visa_. Why are we making his ability to work in this country so difficult?
It is no secret amongst the immigrant community that to get a visa for a dependent whilst holding a BRP is nigh impossible. I’ve heard of high level doctors unable to bring their elderly and ailing mothers over from war-torn countries, despite the fact that these dependents would not be allowed access to any public funding, and these permit holders making the requests are often the highest tax payers and biggest assets to their British communities.
Comparatively, moving a family member to Australia is easy
This is why nuance is required in discussions of immigration.
Mass immigration of individuals who are a burden on the state is an issue, and needs to be reduced. Plus, many of these individuals, whether due to social or cultural factors, struggle to integrate.
Immigration of highly skilled workers, on the other hand, should be encouraged, as they are net contributors to the society, and especially if they work for sectors where not enough workers can be found domestically.
So often, immigration debates portray all immigrants as bad or good. But immigrants are diverse. The government’s job should be to find the ones that will bring benefit to the UK, and welcome them in
>His wife, Shehlar Tajwer, 50, is also a qualified family doctor who hopes to work as a doctor in the UK. **She too was granted a visa to come and work here as a dependant of her husband.**
>The couple have a 19-year-old daughter, Alina Tajwer Siddiqui, who **cannot live independently due to her autism and needs her parents and other family members to care for her.**
>However, the **Home Office has refused her a visa to come to the UK saying that her parents have not demonstrated “compassionate or compelling circumstances”** that would justify officials granting her permission to live with her parents in the UK, in what is known as a grant of leave outside the rules.
So, they granted her parents visas and yet refuse to grant one to their daughter, who needs care and have the gall to say they haven’t demonstrated compassionate or compelling circumstances? Fuck right off.
Whenever hard working people follow the official channels to immigrate to the UK things like this happen far too often. It’s an absolute fucking joke. I myself am an immigrant from the EU and can live here for the rest of my life yet two bloody doctors who by all means contribute far more to the country than I do are essentially being forced out.
The question remains – why do they want to come to the UK at their age and min support?
You’re going to get cases like this as we seek to reduce our immigration figures.
The visa should be for the person, not the family. He is the “high skilled worker”, not the family. Why is this a problem?
Good to see the rules that apply to everybody else being adhered to.
So that’s two doctors turned away because we’ve not allowed their child to come with them? The fuck?
> However, the Home Office has refused her a visa to come to the UK saying that her parents have not demonstrated “compassionate or compelling circumstances” that would justify officials granting her permission to live with her parents in the UK, in what is known as a grant of leave outside the rules.
I mean I’d like to read the Home Office’s decision letter because the article doesn’t go into their reasoning at all. While they say she can’t live independently, it says she’s living with her grandmother so maybe that’s part of it.
This doctor is 59. We are losing out on 5/6 years max of him working here before he retires in exchange to not have to support his dependent daughter for the next 60 years and him as a pensioner as he ages. I’m also a bit skeptical that his wife “plans to work” on his dependent visa, if that was true she’d be applying for a skilled visa herself and securing a job before she arrives, especially because companies pay for skilled workers visas. Likely the reality is she needs to stay home to look after her daughter and doesn’t actually intend to work when she arrives.
Struggling to see how this is a net loss to nhs by turning his family away.
The doctor is 59. I assume his wife is a similar age.
The daughter is 19.
They will work here for 9 years *maximum*, but quite probably less as GPs can access their pension from age 65.
By that time, all three of them will have acquired indefinite leave to remain.
So, for ~9 years of modest GP-salary tax contributions, the UK would be signing up for something like six decades of adult social care obligations and everything else that comes with it for an autistic adult.
That’s an insanely bad deal, and we are right to push back on it (even if it’s not the direct reason the application was refused).
Anyone who thinks that it’s a coincidence they are turning up in the UK at this point in their lives is naive. I don’t blame them for trying.
He is 59 – will retire in a few years, the wife is 50 and will also be retiring in a few years.
Yeah they bring a needed skill to the UK but only short term.
We have such an upside down immigration system. Highly skilled migrants and their families have to jump through numerous bureaucratic hoops and spend a lot of £££ to live in Britain whilst those with spurrious asylum claims who cross the channel are indulged.
>If the Home Office do not allow Alina to come to the UK I will have no choice but to leave my job at the surgery here and go back to Pakistan so I can be with my wife and my daughter. All three of us need to be together so we can look after Alina.
Makes you wonder why he left in the first place.