Was it not 2035? Kind of out of the loop on that one.
CobblerSmall1891 on
Is ANYONE surprised?
Honestly.
2030 sounded silly and unrealistic beyond belief.Â
2035 isn’t realistic either.Â
2040. Maybe.
mitchanium on
At first glance I think this is yet another Labour cop out, then again I think it’s an interesting compromise, however there is no guarantee on fuel prices being heavily taxed in the future to discourage ICE vehicles, and, looking at [Norway EV sales figures](https://www.forbes.com/sites/jenniferturliuk/2024/05/24/how-norway-increased-evs-to-82-of-new-car-sales-vs-76-in-the-us/) right now (82% of new car sales are EV), it suggests that almost everyone will be in a shiny milk float of some sort by 2030.
Still, it does offer a get out for people if they aren’t convinced of EVs by 2030.
Sorry-Transition-780 on
Seriously, has any government actually made any serious attempt at doing something to further this goal?
As far as I’m aware, we’ve been building the infrastructure for electric cars very slowly and companies basically entirely control production of cars and we haven’t done an amazing amount of bargaining to move them towards making cheap electric cars.
To add to this, our public transport is notoriously shit and people have barely an excess income to purchase things like new cars. I really don’t see how our current ‘strategy’ has done anything realistic to achieving this 2030 goal.
It just feels like a multifaceted issue that the main parties can’t be arsed tackling, yet they’ll pay lip service to goals like this in order to secure ‘green’ credentials on the international stage and votes at home.
2030 always seemed unrealistic, but I’m pretty sure that if any government had just focused on building the infrastructure and providing cheap electric cars, we’d be much further along. I’d rather the strategy change, than the actual goal.
Far-Crow-7195 on
Of course they are. It was always unrealistic so better to accept it now than last minute. Entirely predictable U turn.
marknotgeorge on
Without a nationwide long-term cross-party or apolitical infrastructure strategy, it was always going to be a headline-grabbing date to kick the can down the road for some later Parliament to take the hit for.
FaceMace87 on
This country is so far behind I am not sure how long we can keep this up, can’t build a train system that Japan has had for 60 years can’t put in the electric car infrastructure that Norway has had for 25 years.
indigoneutrino on
Good. Until they’ve built the infrastructure for charging them and cleanly generating the electricity to power them, it was a stupid goal.
Ecstatic-Swimming-14 on
It’s just not feasible for every household to charge their car at home unless they have a private driveway which most don’t. The solution has to be a sensible mixture of both electric and petrol cars until public charging stations are as numerous and accessible as petrol stations and fully charge within around 5 minutes.
I_ALWAYS_UPVOTE_CATS on
I shouldn’t be surprised at the Telegraph, but I wish the media would stop calling it a ‘petrol/diesel car ban’. It’s only aimed at *new* vehicles. You’re not going to be suddenly car-less when it comes into force.
GayWolfey on
The secret is in fleet cars. And it’s allready working. Try and find a BMW diesel estate coming off fleet. You will barely see one.
If I recall ford and Mercedes have both said they are rolling back on their electric car roll out. So it will be a min of 2035. However in reality it will be 2050
sbos_ on
2030 would the corner to be fair. But Labour turning on this is disappointing
Whatsmyageagain24 on
Lol the corporations win again. Destroying our planet in the name of appeasing shareholders and making profit.
They’ll continue to gaslight us and tell us it’s our responsibility to buy electric cars/avoid buying plastics(whilst they wrap every single product in plastics and provide no alternatives)/use less electricity/heating when we all freeze ourselves during winter to pay for some shareholder dividends.
Fuck them all and people should be rioting over this.
SunJ_ on
I do need a new car and I have been looking at ev cars to try it out and all. I did like the iqoni 6 or the polestar, but these prices man. Even other ones just feel meh when you see the performance and metrics of them.
I get you can’t make these cheap but the jump to ev is still pricy imo
Putrid-Leg-1787 on
Yeah, anything to avoid offending our bronze-age oil emperors in the gulfstates.
Any-Wall2929 on
BP shareholders are more important to the Labour party than your childs lungs.
BenXL on
We need hybrid cars first to ease into the transition. But most new cars are fully electric which is silly
DaikonLumpy3744 on
Here in China we can buy a new decent BYD ev for 7k pounds, in the UK the same one with taxes and all the other shiz is nearly 30k. Only difference is the steering wheel is on the other side. 7k is with no subsidy from the chinese government.
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Was it not 2035? Kind of out of the loop on that one.
Is ANYONE surprised?
Honestly.
2030 sounded silly and unrealistic beyond belief.Â
2035 isn’t realistic either.Â
2040. Maybe.
At first glance I think this is yet another Labour cop out, then again I think it’s an interesting compromise, however there is no guarantee on fuel prices being heavily taxed in the future to discourage ICE vehicles, and, looking at [Norway EV sales figures](https://www.forbes.com/sites/jenniferturliuk/2024/05/24/how-norway-increased-evs-to-82-of-new-car-sales-vs-76-in-the-us/) right now (82% of new car sales are EV), it suggests that almost everyone will be in a shiny milk float of some sort by 2030.
Still, it does offer a get out for people if they aren’t convinced of EVs by 2030.
Seriously, has any government actually made any serious attempt at doing something to further this goal?
As far as I’m aware, we’ve been building the infrastructure for electric cars very slowly and companies basically entirely control production of cars and we haven’t done an amazing amount of bargaining to move them towards making cheap electric cars.
To add to this, our public transport is notoriously shit and people have barely an excess income to purchase things like new cars. I really don’t see how our current ‘strategy’ has done anything realistic to achieving this 2030 goal.
It just feels like a multifaceted issue that the main parties can’t be arsed tackling, yet they’ll pay lip service to goals like this in order to secure ‘green’ credentials on the international stage and votes at home.
2030 always seemed unrealistic, but I’m pretty sure that if any government had just focused on building the infrastructure and providing cheap electric cars, we’d be much further along. I’d rather the strategy change, than the actual goal.
Of course they are. It was always unrealistic so better to accept it now than last minute. Entirely predictable U turn.
Without a nationwide long-term cross-party or apolitical infrastructure strategy, it was always going to be a headline-grabbing date to kick the can down the road for some later Parliament to take the hit for.
This country is so far behind I am not sure how long we can keep this up, can’t build a train system that Japan has had for 60 years can’t put in the electric car infrastructure that Norway has had for 25 years.
Good. Until they’ve built the infrastructure for charging them and cleanly generating the electricity to power them, it was a stupid goal.
It’s just not feasible for every household to charge their car at home unless they have a private driveway which most don’t. The solution has to be a sensible mixture of both electric and petrol cars until public charging stations are as numerous and accessible as petrol stations and fully charge within around 5 minutes.
I shouldn’t be surprised at the Telegraph, but I wish the media would stop calling it a ‘petrol/diesel car ban’. It’s only aimed at *new* vehicles. You’re not going to be suddenly car-less when it comes into force.
The secret is in fleet cars. And it’s allready working. Try and find a BMW diesel estate coming off fleet. You will barely see one.
If I recall ford and Mercedes have both said they are rolling back on their electric car roll out. So it will be a min of 2035. However in reality it will be 2050
2030 would the corner to be fair. But Labour turning on this is disappointing
Lol the corporations win again. Destroying our planet in the name of appeasing shareholders and making profit.
They’ll continue to gaslight us and tell us it’s our responsibility to buy electric cars/avoid buying plastics(whilst they wrap every single product in plastics and provide no alternatives)/use less electricity/heating when we all freeze ourselves during winter to pay for some shareholder dividends.
Fuck them all and people should be rioting over this.
I do need a new car and I have been looking at ev cars to try it out and all. I did like the iqoni 6 or the polestar, but these prices man. Even other ones just feel meh when you see the performance and metrics of them.
I get you can’t make these cheap but the jump to ev is still pricy imo
Yeah, anything to avoid offending our bronze-age oil emperors in the gulfstates.
BP shareholders are more important to the Labour party than your childs lungs.
We need hybrid cars first to ease into the transition. But most new cars are fully electric which is silly
Here in China we can buy a new decent BYD ev for 7k pounds, in the UK the same one with taxes and all the other shiz is nearly 30k. Only difference is the steering wheel is on the other side. 7k is with no subsidy from the chinese government.