This is an important read for those not familiar with the post-liberal right movement. This election isn’t just about defeating Trump and bringing hope to America again. It is about defeating incels who seek to transform our nation at a fundamental level.
We must help Harris-Walz everywhere we can. Make America Hope Again! 🇺🇸
TL;DR: A pseudo-intellectual group of men, angry at the accomplished women who have “wronged” them over the years, are exacting their incel revenge by pushing for a religio-fascist political future. JD Vance is part of this movement. We must defeat them.
nwgdad on
Let me guess: ‘fascism’. But the fact is MAGA and fascism are one and the same.
atomsmasher66 on
*something just as bad as MAGA. Let’s not pretend that MAGA isn’t the bottom of the barrel
PecanPizzaPie on
Article is splitting hairs. This group is just one flavor of MAGA.
kuulmonk on
Trump is just a means to an end, a stupid, gullible fool that can be manipulated to do anything they need. That is until they do not need him any more.
If Trump wins, I do not expect him to be in power for long. Just long enough to get the ball rolling and be blamed for the chaos that is caused, then he will be dropped like a stone. He will be either impeached or they’ll use the 25th amendment to force him out.
Then Vance becomes president and project 2025 goes into full effect.
SoundSageWisdom on
Yeah, his own sense of self importance.
Virbillion on
it’s the reaction based algorithm. same thing that gives tweens body dysmorphia and whatnot also sends middle aged men into agitation feedback loops… and propels the popularity of contrarians, trolls, agitation pundits.
there’s a whole sector of the public sphere of desperate dudes like jd vance breathlessly trying to say the right offensive things that will resonate enough with all those middle aged men caught in the agitation feedback loop algorithm.
autotldr on
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/rcna171095) reduced by 93%. (I’m a bot)
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> My former friend JD Vance is a prominent voice of this fringe movement, as so many of his regrettable podcast interviews have demonstrated.
> Yet the Republican nominee for vice president, my former friend JD Vance, is a prominent voice of this fringe movement, as so many of his regrettable podcast interviews have demonstrated.
> Vance was booed by a group of union firefighters when he stated he sought to be part of the "Most pro-worker Republican ticket in history." Nobody who's pro-worker, as Vance claims to be, would team up with Trump, the candidate who laughed with Elon Musk about union busting.
I had a semester in college in Madrid when Franco was in control. People couldn’t talk freely. Six of my classmates were taken to the police station for playing frisbee in a park because it was illegal to congregate in public.
gabangel on
This is an important read. Sofia is a true patriot.
Globalruler__ on
Remember when this dude was used as the poster child for a demographic that Democrats supposedly neglected?
DevilYouKnow on
“Would you support deporting all black and brown people?”
Republicans: ummm well….how brown are we talking?
eatpackets on
I was hoping we’d eventually get to hear directly from Sofia and this was wildly interesting and well put-together.
Important reading on a fringe movement most won’t be aware of.
CurrentlyLucid on
Vance is too weird to be a senator, much less VP or President if trump strokes out.
Vesemir66 on
JD Vance is done after this election.
Optimal_Award_4758 on
The Techno Futurists believe humanity *is* the problem and their horrid software the New Truth, especially if the latter wipes out vast segments of human labor, leaving them worthless. Some kinda Brave New World.
smady3 on
couches ?
BARTing on
My personal conspiracy theory: This whole thing is window dressing for kleptocrats and autocrats to keep the grift going.
The idea is to privatize *everything* and award government monopolies to Peter Thiel and the other cronies and thieves.
DoD (Prince), intelligence (palentir, Thiel), schools (DeVos, princes sister), DoE, Medicare, you name it private private private. Monopoly monopoly monopoly.
JD and his theories are just pretzel-twisted logic to give oligarchs monopoly profits for ever on the backs of the 99.9%. JD’s an opportunistic tool.
Oh and the whole babies thing is because if the population goes down, they don’t make so much money.
dj26458 on
The one thing not explicitly mentioned is that this Catholic strain of conservative politics will find lots of friends on the Supreme Court.
Catholics on SCOTUS:
Alito,
Thomas,
Gorsuch (sort of),
Kavanaugh,
Barrett (sort of),
Roberts.
Also Sotomayor but she seemingly doesn’t insist upon making decisions based on that.
Thomas and Alito have definitely hinted at doing away with the separation of church and state.
CoolOPMan on
JD looks like a stereotypical date rapist/incel
Top_Style_8937 on
It is long past time for the media spotlight to shine on incel philosophy and those who wish to impose their vision on the rest of us! Main-stream America has no clue.
gerryf19 on
So the protestenta know about this ? Because for decades now the far right has been led by protestenta who dislike Catholics
Now you’re saying the Catholics have done a s end run around them?
This is very confusing
The_wulfy on
Judas betrayed Jesus for what is today a few hundred dollars.
Frankly, it is staggeringly cheap to buy these people.
SpecialistPlatform60 on
This makes sense! What I don’t understand is who in trumps world is of the same mindset that could influence trumpy to pick JD out of all of the better magats candidates
daeglo on
So JD Vance wants the Republic of Gilead to be real. And he doesn’t care how much of a hypocrite he makes himself out to be or who he has to throw under the bus to do it.
Clickityclackrack on
Headline written like a movie advert. “They’ve teamed up with something worse than nazis, nazi zombies!”
Is that what they’re teaming up with nazi maga?
Scarfwearer on
White Nationalist I see…FUCK YOU JD
thesyncopation on
Gilead incoming
Jstudz on
If JD Vance is supposed to be leading this movement they picked a really bad leader who can’t articulate thoughts.
tomscaters on
Curtis Yarvin. I keep fucking saying it in so many threads and I never see any engagement. He’s a malicious threat to democracy. Ronald Reagan would have used his “official acts” powers to destroy him.
fatfrost on
The hero of every divorced dude paying alimony that has extrapolated his hatred of his ex-wife onto women more generally and society at large.
IdahoDuncan on
I think not enough people realize what a shit storm is coming next year, these people are for real and they sense their time is coming. We could be well f*@%3d. It’ll be a mess like we have had in a long long time.
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This is an important read for those not familiar with the post-liberal right movement. This election isn’t just about defeating Trump and bringing hope to America again. It is about defeating incels who seek to transform our nation at a fundamental level.
We must help Harris-Walz everywhere we can. Make America Hope Again! 🇺🇸
TL;DR: A pseudo-intellectual group of men, angry at the accomplished women who have “wronged” them over the years, are exacting their incel revenge by pushing for a religio-fascist political future. JD Vance is part of this movement. We must defeat them.
Let me guess: ‘fascism’. But the fact is MAGA and fascism are one and the same.
*something just as bad as MAGA. Let’s not pretend that MAGA isn’t the bottom of the barrel
Article is splitting hairs. This group is just one flavor of MAGA.
Trump is just a means to an end, a stupid, gullible fool that can be manipulated to do anything they need. That is until they do not need him any more.
If Trump wins, I do not expect him to be in power for long. Just long enough to get the ball rolling and be blamed for the chaos that is caused, then he will be dropped like a stone. He will be either impeached or they’ll use the 25th amendment to force him out.
Then Vance becomes president and project 2025 goes into full effect.
Yeah, his own sense of self importance.
it’s the reaction based algorithm. same thing that gives tweens body dysmorphia and whatnot also sends middle aged men into agitation feedback loops… and propels the popularity of contrarians, trolls, agitation pundits.
there’s a whole sector of the public sphere of desperate dudes like jd vance breathlessly trying to say the right offensive things that will resonate enough with all those middle aged men caught in the agitation feedback loop algorithm.
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/rcna171095) reduced by 93%. (I’m a bot)
*****
> My former friend JD Vance is a prominent voice of this fringe movement, as so many of his regrettable podcast interviews have demonstrated.
> Yet the Republican nominee for vice president, my former friend JD Vance, is a prominent voice of this fringe movement, as so many of his regrettable podcast interviews have demonstrated.
> Vance was booed by a group of union firefighters when he stated he sought to be part of the "Most pro-worker Republican ticket in history." Nobody who's pro-worker, as Vance claims to be, would team up with Trump, the candidate who laughed with Elon Musk about union busting.
*****
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I had a semester in college in Madrid when Franco was in control. People couldn’t talk freely. Six of my classmates were taken to the police station for playing frisbee in a park because it was illegal to congregate in public.
This is an important read. Sofia is a true patriot.
Remember when this dude was used as the poster child for a demographic that Democrats supposedly neglected?
“Would you support deporting all black and brown people?”
Republicans: ummm well….how brown are we talking?
I was hoping we’d eventually get to hear directly from Sofia and this was wildly interesting and well put-together.
Important reading on a fringe movement most won’t be aware of.
Vance is too weird to be a senator, much less VP or President if trump strokes out.
JD Vance is done after this election.
The Techno Futurists believe humanity *is* the problem and their horrid software the New Truth, especially if the latter wipes out vast segments of human labor, leaving them worthless. Some kinda Brave New World.
couches ?
My personal conspiracy theory: This whole thing is window dressing for kleptocrats and autocrats to keep the grift going.
The idea is to privatize *everything* and award government monopolies to Peter Thiel and the other cronies and thieves.
DoD (Prince), intelligence (palentir, Thiel), schools (DeVos, princes sister), DoE, Medicare, you name it private private private. Monopoly monopoly monopoly.
JD and his theories are just pretzel-twisted logic to give oligarchs monopoly profits for ever on the backs of the 99.9%. JD’s an opportunistic tool.
Oh and the whole babies thing is because if the population goes down, they don’t make so much money.
The one thing not explicitly mentioned is that this Catholic strain of conservative politics will find lots of friends on the Supreme Court.
Catholics on SCOTUS:
Alito,
Thomas,
Gorsuch (sort of),
Kavanaugh,
Barrett (sort of),
Roberts.
Also Sotomayor but she seemingly doesn’t insist upon making decisions based on that.
Thomas and Alito have definitely hinted at doing away with the separation of church and state.
JD looks like a stereotypical date rapist/incel
It is long past time for the media spotlight to shine on incel philosophy and those who wish to impose their vision on the rest of us! Main-stream America has no clue.
So the protestenta know about this ? Because for decades now the far right has been led by protestenta who dislike Catholics
Now you’re saying the Catholics have done a s end run around them?
This is very confusing
Judas betrayed Jesus for what is today a few hundred dollars.
Frankly, it is staggeringly cheap to buy these people.
This makes sense! What I don’t understand is who in trumps world is of the same mindset that could influence trumpy to pick JD out of all of the better magats candidates
So JD Vance wants the Republic of Gilead to be real. And he doesn’t care how much of a hypocrite he makes himself out to be or who he has to throw under the bus to do it.
Headline written like a movie advert. “They’ve teamed up with something worse than nazis, nazi zombies!”
Is that what they’re teaming up with nazi maga?
White Nationalist I see…FUCK YOU JD
Gilead incoming
If JD Vance is supposed to be leading this movement they picked a really bad leader who can’t articulate thoughts.
Curtis Yarvin. I keep fucking saying it in so many threads and I never see any engagement. He’s a malicious threat to democracy. Ronald Reagan would have used his “official acts” powers to destroy him.
The hero of every divorced dude paying alimony that has extrapolated his hatred of his ex-wife onto women more generally and society at large.
I think not enough people realize what a shit storm is coming next year, these people are for real and they sense their time is coming. We could be well f*@%3d. It’ll be a mess like we have had in a long long time.