Donald Trump should be very worried going up against Kamala Harris in a debate — In debates, Harris put Mike Pence in his place and even eviscerated Joe Biden. Trump’s antics won’t work against her.
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Journalists say that and then after the debate they’ll be like “Kamala Harris FOLDS on POLICY — Donald Trump SHITS TRIUMPHANTLY?” because Donald literally cannot lose in the eyes of the media.
I hope a fly lands on Trump’s head
Kamala is going to eat him.
Orange all over.
trump could silently use the podium as a urinal, yell at clouds in the sky and then wander aimlessly out into the crowd – His cult would still say he won
Policy, policy RIP HIS FACE OFFF , policy, policy
This will be political theater at it’s finest, the Prosecutor vs. the Felon. She will humiliate Trump, put him in his place and not be the slightest bit intimidated. Go Kamala go.
I’d like to see her say “Donald, what was that gibberish you just spouted?” Did it have anything to do with the question? What did any of that mean?”
Then move on with her answer to her question.
I think this is overstating a bit – she’s shown to be solid debater, but not outstanding. The debate again pence was a bit underwhelmed and the 2019 primaries, well, she didn’t exactly progress far.
But she’s obviously 1000x better than anything Biden would deliver.
Unfortunately there’s no such thing as KO’ing Trump in a debate because half the voting populace and most of the media holds him to no standard whatsoever, whereas every minor misstep by Harris will be heavily scrutinised. But she seems to have the right temperament to debate Trump, she’s not easily shaken and that’s one of the main reasons I’m confident the debate won’t be a net negative at least. But it might be worth overly optimistic to think this will sway lots of swing voters or independents.
Right, she “eviscerated” Joe Biden so badly that he won the nomination.
I’m sure she’ll do well, but I worry that everyone expects that anyway and it won’t make much of a difference. The unfortunate reality is if the perception post-debate is that Trump “held his own” or doesn’t fall flat on his face, then he wins.
Gonna be a bloodbath innit? Can’t wait to watch
> Trump’s antics won’t work against her …
They don’t need to. That’s the thing here for Trump. He doesn’t need to come off smarter, have better answers, or even, coherent answers. If you ask him question “A” he’ll just use his speaking time to spout-off his same tried-and-true lies, deceptions, and half-truths … he’ll speak for as long as his microphone is unmuted … probably throw some name calling in there too.
I’m 100% sure a debate-coach somewhere will say Harris “won” the debate today … but to the Trump army, HE will have won … showing up, putting Harris, ABC, everybody in their place, and representing for the common man.
I think the real thing to come to grips with here is: **Nothing** will change a Trumpian’s mind … they’re all-in on Trump, no matter what. It’s a cult, and you don’t convince cult-members with logic and reasoning …. I don’t know what the answer is … but today’s debate is unlikely to change anything.
I hope she calls him out for not actually answering the questions, which will make him angry, which will fluster him, which I HOPE causes him to pout and walk off stage.
Yes people, it doesn’t matter because the media will still spin it that “Trump” held his own.
But I don’t think the “undecideds” or “sways” or whatever you want to call them, especially in battleground states care about Trump. They just want to learn more about Harris, and that’s what she needs to treat it like. A “hello country this is who I am if for some reason you haven’t been paying attention”
He’s been trying to get out of debating her for the past month and a half, so clearly he’s nervous about something
Good to know!
Side issue: I don’t understand how “winning” such a debate reveals your ability to be an effective president.
She should ask him about child care.
These debates are performative bullshit. The Democratic Party’s legislative priorities are in the 21st century while the GOP’s are in the 19th.
*How’s this even a coin flip??*
This is a little off. She did do well against Pence and we remember the I’m talking line. But she eviscerated Biden so well that he became President and she couldn’t make it to the first primary.
So that means one of two things. She didn’t eviscerate him. Or debates don’t matter as much as we all think
lol Trump got smoked by Clinton and our media outlets called it a toss up because he managed to avoid shitting his diaper and shouting the n word for like two whole hours of his life
Which is why his team wants the mics muted: to protect him from himself
> Trump won’t have a chance to interrupt Harris because the candidate’s microphones will be muted when they aren’t talking.
Aww, nuts! Is that their final decision?
The media has inverted the goalpost of success and failure so fundamentally for Trump there is almost no way that Kamala can “win”.
Her best case scenario is that she holds ground and makes The Orange Felon look old and tired.
Trump exists well outside of the standards of reason and humanity, we’ll find out how she holds up against sheer madness and total absence of personal standard of conduct. Even someone as experienced and skilled as she is, debating a pants shitting madman could throw anyone off their game.
Presidential debates are 90% about looking and sounding confident. Trump’s answers in the first one were incoherent nonsensical lies, but he said them with bravado, while Biden sounded ancient.
All she has to do is call attention to how idiotic his rambling sounds. Once the audience hears the different between them side by side, the debate is over.
I believe in her. This is arguably the most important debate of her life. Still wish they had the hot mics.
No shit. She is a PROSECUTOR. it’s her job to poke holes in people’s stories.
I’m watching to see Trumps weird fists wiggling dance.
I don’t like that, just like with Hilary, the expectations are so low for him and so high for her. It is a trap. If he doesn’t shit himself on live TV at this point news media is going to say he won the debate.
NYT headline: Trump holds his own against master debator Kamala (Note: names appear that way as an editorial choice I think the NYT would make.)
Let’s assume he will be able to hold his own and she will sound poised and confident. Remember when people attacked Biden and they called it elder abuse. Winning too well could hurt her as much as messing this up.
Fingers crossed that she plays the fluid approach to get her message heard, yet push every last one of Trump’s buttons
This is the same crap every time. When are people going to realize you can’t beat Trump in a debate. It’s like saying she is going to win a debate against a monkey. Trump is just going to shout and throw shit at everything. You can’t argue reality with someone who is not bound by it
The debates don’t matter. Nothing Trump says will change anyone’s mind, for good or ill.
Yeah but she performed poorly that one time 4 years ago against Tulsi Gabbard who was trying to get some one-liners in to be relevant.
My concern is that the bar is set too high for her relative to Trump. As long as Trump manages to avoid making a complete fool of himself it will attract little attention; however, if Harris makes even the slightest mistake in phrasing, attitude or even stance and facial expression, she will be eviscerated by the media, and not just the conservative platforms.
I have PTSD from the Biden disaster and won’t be able to exhale until tomorrow’s debate is over and Harris can be said to have (at a minimum) done no damage.
It was such a fucking nightmare when Biden shat the bed. I was out getting groceries and while standing in the checkout line I looked at Reddit on my phone and it was just a bunch of people talking about how terrible it was going for Biden. Drove home hoping it was just a short malfunction, but by the end of the night I was dealing with the realization that (unless Biden dropped out) Trump was guaranteed to win.
I won’t feel comfortable until I know that possibility is gone.
It makes it worse knowing that Trump doesn’t have to do anything. He literally just has to show up and run his stupid fucking mouth and the media will find a way to spin it for him. Meanwhile Harris has to hit every point perfectly. She has to flawlessly execute each response. And even if she does the media will find ways to critique her.
It’s the exact definition of white mediocrity and patriarchy. A stupid, rapist, lying, convicted fraudster who refused to peacefully transfer power and promises nothing but revenge and fascism (but happens to be a wealthy white man) gets to go up on stage and say incoherent bullshit and will get graded on whether or not he drooled on himself. While an intelligent, non-rapist, honest, non-convicted politician who promises competence and the faithful execution of the duties of the office (but happens to be a person of color and a woman) has to exceed expectations just to meet them.
Ultimately the debate doesn’t even fucking matter. Are we voting to keep our democracy or is America going to succumb to propaganda, foreign meddling, laziness, and stupidity, and reinstall the worst fucking President we’ve ever had?
Regardless of what happens in this “debate,” Trump will still be an anti-American criminal, Putin’s little bitch, and a weak, tired, OLD man.
Sometimes you have to flush a turd twice.