While Trump is literally praying they won’t release pics of his VP blowing a floor lamp.
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CakeAccomplice12 on
The media will guarantee he doesn’t blow it. Anything short of him dying on stage due to a heart attack or something, he will be treated as the best thing since sliced bread
fellowuscitizen on
Praying for the Anti-Christ?
12345Hamburger on
This is what’s going to happen:
He won’t answer a single question. He’ll just start attacking Harris and a bunch of other random people about completely irrelevant topics. He’ll go off on a bunch of nonsensical word salad rants. Harris will make a few minor and completely tame flubs, but the right wing media will latch onto them like she just smashed the Ten Commandments, and they’ll declare Trump the “winner” of the debate.
NeoMegaRyuMKII on
What are they worried about? It’s not like their guy said or wrote
> So there’s a shark 10 yards away from the boat…10 yards. Or here. Do I get electrocuted if the boat is sinking, water goes over the battery. The boat is sinking. Do I stay on top of the boat and get electrocuted, or do I jump over by the shark and not get electrocuted?
and
> “Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible.
and
> This is a tough hurricane, one of the wettest we’ve ever seen, from the standpoint of water.
and
> I heard from the president of Finland, tremendously smart man! He told me that over there, they rake there leaves very often and that prevents most of the forest fires over there. I think if we did that in the great state of California, the forest fires would decrease a tremendous amount.
and
> A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. (To Bryan) And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right? … And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful.
and
> Our army manned the air, it rammed the ramparts, it took over the airports, it did everything it had to do, and at Fort McHenry, under the rockets’ red glare, it had nothing but victory
and
> It used to not be climate change. It used to be global warming. That wasn’t working too well, ’cause it was getting too cold all over the place
and
> The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make US manufacturing non-competitive.
and (discussing the cognitive test he took)
> I proved I was all there because I aced it. I aced the test and [Joe Biden] should take the same exact test. A very standard test. I took it at Walter Reed, a medical center, in front of doctors, and they were very surprised. They said, that’s an unbelievable thing. Rarely does anybody do what you just did.
and
> Hopefully George [Floyd] is looking down right now and saying, ‘This is a great thing that’s happening for our country.’ This is a great day for him. It’s a great day for everybody.
and
> I will build a great wall – and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me – and I’ll build them very inexpensively. I will build a great, great wall on our southern border, and I will make Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words.
and
> I was looking out of a window from a building at Midtown Manhattan directly at the World Trade Center when I saw a second plane at a tremendous speed go into the second tower. It was then that I realized the world was going to change. I was no longer going to be, and it could never, ever be that innocent place that I thought it was. Soon after, I went down to Ground Zero with men who worked for me to try to help in any little way that we could. We were not alone. So many others were scattered around trying to do the same. They were all trying to help.
and
> I know more about ISIS than the generals do. Believe me.
and
> Apologizing is a great thing but you have to be wrong. I will absolutely apologize sometime hopefully in the distant future if I’m ever wrong.
and
> When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending the best. They’re not sending you, they’re sending people that have lots of problems and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.
and
> An extremely credible source has called my office and told me that Barack Obama’s birth certificate is a fraud.
and
> nobody knew that health care could be so complicated
and (posting)
> despite the constant negative press covfefe
(and doubling down on it being intentional) and
> person, woman, man, camera, tv
and
> A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world. So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light — and I think you said that that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and I think you said you’re going to test that, too. It sounds interesting. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that.
and (when asked what he’d do differently from Biden regarding the Ukraine/Russia war
> Well what I would do, is I would, we would, we have tremendous military capability and what we can do without planes, to be honest with you, without 44-year-old jets, what we can do is enormous, and we should be doing it and we should be helping them survivie3 and they’re doing an amazing job.
and
> No water in your faucets. You ever tried buying a new home and you turn it on? They have restrictors in there. You want to wash your hair. You want to wash your hands. You turn on the water and it goes drip, drip. The soap, you can’t get it off your hand. So you keep it running for about ten times longer. You’re trying. The worst is your hair. I have this beautiful, luxuriant hair, and I put stuff on. I put it in. Lather. I like lots of lather because I like it to come out extremely dry because it seems to be slightly thicker that way. And I lather up and then you turn on this crazy shower and the thing drip, drip, and you say, ‘I’m gonna be here for 45 minutes. What?’ They put restrictors and they put them on in places like here where there’s so much water you don’t know what to do with it. You know, it’s called rain. It rains a lot in certain places. But, now their idea, you know, did you see the other day? They just, I opened it up and they closed it again. I opened it, they close it, washing machines to wash your dishes. There is a problem. They don’t want you to have any water. They want no water.
and
> You know, if you go out and you want to buy groceries, you need a picture on a card. You need ID.
and claimed that Obama used a microwave to spy on him
and claimed you could nuke a hurricane
and was reportedly told 10 times by Angela Merkel that he cannot have a deal *just* with Germany but needed to do so with the whole EU before he understood that fact
and the boy scout jamboree speech
and the windmill cancer stuff
and stared into the sun during the solar eclipse
and pronouncing “Yosemite” as “yo, Semite”
and seemed fascinated as he was using a shopping cart
and told a hurricane victim whose yard became the landing spot for someone’s unmoored yacht that he got a nice boat out of the deal
and when he was signing blank papers while hospitalized with COVID
and when he tossed paper towels to hurricane victims
and the hurricane sharpie
and his complaints about water pressure in toilets
and the claim that the census asks about how many toilets are in one’s house
and when he said he met with the president of the Virgin Islands
and called himself a “very stable genius”
and said he is thankful for himself a Thanksgiving dinner
and when he said he wanted to buy Greenland
and when he said the moon was part of Mars
and when he seemed to think that certain fighter jets are actually invisible
And did a photo op where he was smiling and giving a thumbs up while the person next to him was holding a baby who was just orphaned
And repeatedly talking about the “late great Hannibal Lecter,” a *fictional character* (often in positive terms)
And called Tim Cook “Tim Apple”…
You mean to tell me saying stupid shit that may result in him blowing the debate?
VorpalPlayer on
Let’s hope their prayers are as effective as the ones for victims of school shootings.
dwitman on
He’s going to completely blow it. He’s shown time and again over the last year that he has, through every fault of his own, painted himself into a corner where there are no right moves for him to expand his electoral appeal.
If he says something that’s not fascists or even center right his based loses it on him.
If he says something fascists everyone else remembers how much and why they hate him.
He’s also in serious physical and mental decline, and can’t string two sentences together that make any sense to anyone who is not already a member of his cult of followers who are deluded idiots that can make his gibberish mean anything they want.
Fascism is a self defeating philosophy and his campaign is transparently fascist and in its terminal phase.
JubalHarshaw23 on
ABC won’t allow it.
forthewatch39 on
The bar is extremely low for him. The only way he can blow the debate in the eyes of those who are leaning towards voting for him is if he collapses or pulls down his pants and defecates live on stage and even then it may not move the needle much.
inbetween-genders on
Meh who knows. We will see. I think auntie K will wipe the floor with him but I’ll wait until it’s done and done to celebrate cause last time I thought Joey Two Scoops was gonna mop the floor with him but Dark Brandon never showed up 🙁
SplashyTetraspore on
He’ll be the same jackal he always is.
goodtymz06 on
Thoughts and prayers like for the school shootings. I can confirm this will not work.
HERE_THEN_NOT on
Donald is a true idiot, but that’s his armor, sadly. There’s nothing he can really do to upset the cult enough to not vote for him. They’re pretty irrational.
The real question is how much will he struggle or succeed at gaining votes? I think he’s at his ceiling and will remain there, but I could be wrong.
I don’t know because I’m not in the mindset of wavering on my vote or my participation in voting…but I guess there’s enough people out there that are still unsure about what they’re gonna do?
The other side of this is that in the debate Harris might not come off looking great. She has a high bar to clear because she’s a real person with skills and intelligence. Trump has a low bar because he’s divorced from reality and functionally stupid. So it’s really kind of Harris’ debate to lose, unfortunately.
Which is the main thing to me. Neither will exactly “win” in this political landscape, but one might certainly “lose” –if that make sense.
charcoalist on
It’s ok, the media is going to cover for him and mercilessly scrutinize VP Harris.
Infamous_Employer_85 on
They will work as well as the thoughts and prayers to prevent school shootings.
19Chris96 on
I hope he blows it by dropping the “N”-word.
VonTastrophe on
Thoughts and prayers seems to be about the only thing Republicans can provide for *anything* lately
whatzitsgalore on
My gut reaction is that it’s going to go how we all think it will. Trump will be exactly the same as he was in the June debate. Harris will talk 70% about policy, 30% about what Trump is all about since he can’t articulate any of it himself. Framed exactly like that: “Since Donald couldn’t articulate an answer, let me translate…” And he won’t have an open mic to sputter into. If she does it every time, she’s making fun of his greatest weakness to his face.
I think what changes is pundit reaction. Even though Trump is exactly the same, all of a sudden he’s the low hanging fruit. It’s easier to pile on with Harris and make fun of non-answers and hyperbole than discuss whether her proposed change in the marginal tax rate for corporations will increase revenues.
It’s so unfortunate that we live and die by soundbites but Harris comes in with the stronger position here. Trump hasn’t been able to define her at all.
ZabuzaBZ on
Thoughts and prayers…
jsuue on
But why are there still people willing to work for this man? I would rather go flip burgers than to be associated with his campaign. Why?
TheGreatGamer1389 on
I’m praying he does
dattru on
Harris’ team has surely studied techniques which send Trump into a ditch. Do it early and often. Once in a ditch he can’t recover and will go louder and longer with cries for fear and violence
JeffSpicolisBong on
Kamala will need to convey her vision and also lay a clowning on Trump via some headline grabbing burns that are irresistible to the media-sphere. She knows they’ll give Trump a pass so she has to nail him and give him the beatdown we all wanna see.
Basic_Quantity_9430 on
Harris needs to be 100% on her game. The Press is going to grade Trump on a big favorable curve. If Trump avoids being a complete moron and avoids shitting his pants on stage, the Press will claim that he won.
BrokenMilkGlass on
I think the risk is on the other side. He can just spew his normal verbal crap, and people say “that’s just Trump,” whereas Kamala needs to be perfect to not be attacked in the public discourse.
Proper-Toe7170 on
I understand the view of people being pessimistic that this debate will do much. But don’t forget we are coming off the back of arguably the most consequential debate in US history. While Trump has always been unhinged, he has notably lost what little sharpness and coherence he had since 2020, 2016. Most people plugged into this stuff have seen this, but a lot of people who do not plug in give presidential debates a lot of attention and weight. Trump having a jarring senior moment or meltdown is in the realm of possibility and, if severe enough, could not be effectively spun by the media.
mishma2005 on
They can stop praying. Short of stroking out on the stage or physically assaulting someone (and even that might not to do it) the press will say he won or it was a draw.
Toadfinger on
Praying to ancient Roman Gods no doubt.
*Bless thine Orange Julius!*
PimpBot1000 on
Worried about the old obese demented guy who said gems like these? (no way!):
“I rented him a piece of land,” [he told Fox News](http://gawker.com/5783999/donald-trump-i-screwed-muammar-qaddafi) about his relationship with Muammar Qaddafi. “He paid me more for one night than the land was worth for two years, and then I didn’t let him use the land. That’s what we should be doing. I don’t want to use the word ‘screwed’, but I screwed him.”
Hope he fucks up as always, BIGLY, but the MAGAts won’t care, so…
Class_of_22 on
So basically, they have NO confidence whatsoever that he will follow what they want him to say. And with good reason too.
Given his behavior lately and his spiralling lack of coherence, no wonder why they are so desperate for him not to blow it.
And Kamala Harris baiting him is a big thing that she will do.
Interesting that his team has no confidence in his abilities whatsoever…
cookinthescuppers on
Like she said she knows his type. Flimflam, talk talk talk and makes no sense but it’s like ASMR for his mob and nails on a blackboard for the rest of us.
Reddituser45005 on
Trump was horrible in the Biden debate but it got very little attention because Biden was worse. That began the serious push to get Joe to step aside. To me, it isn’t about Kamala winning, it’s about Trump being so incoherent that even his MAGA supporters realize he is finished. To avoid the “civil war” scenario that would occur in a close or contested election, even MAGA has to realize Trump isn’t electable. Trump snd Vance are doing a great job of destroying themselves. Kamala just has to let them continue
onceinawhile222 on
Hopefully their thoughts and prayers will be as effective as usual.
Hot-Control-7466 on
Thoughts and prayers really is their go-to for everything.
SisterActTori on
The debate is basically 2 people who will be speaking to the audience similar to a rally. The 2 candidates will not engage in any meaningful dialogue that will clarify positions on the issues. It is a waste of time. I am glad that Kamala has remained quiet on policy positions to date as that gives Trump less ammunition and areas to meander, obfuscate and conflate. The debate will be nothing more than a lousy soap opera. Let Trump talk- the more he talks the more people are disgusted (beyond his base). He cannot win with his base alone.
KidKilobyte on
That should work, thoughts and prayers have fixed school shootings /s
TrooperJohn on
He’ll blow it.
The media will pretend he didn’t.
And we will move on.
mjordan102 on
I think I will just go back to my slutty western romance novels.
Happy_Coast2301 on
We all know how effective thoughts and prayers are.
Paisleyfrog on
>“She’ll be personal and try to demean him,” Gingrich told *Politico*. “I think, I hope, what he’ll do is be a guy who’s been a real president—while she has been kind of a semi-vice president—and a guy who knows all the world leaders, and a guy who has been through an enormous amount, and just be calm and steady and stick to the real differences.”
So the hope is that at long last, Trump does a pivot and acts presidential.
Dear god, that’s funny. I understand why they’re praying.
gimpers420 on
There’s an absolute ZERO percent chance that he isn’t going to look like a complete jackass.
Nerney9 on
What is your plan to improve childcare?
Trump: Look, that’s so so important, so we’ll tax the windmills from china, because tariffs are big big money and the green new deal causes toilets to flush 10, 20, 50 times and that’s why the water is so bad now, but the water was so beautiful, the best water you’ve ever seen when I was running things, but now you’ve got bad bad people trying to steal your guns and gas ovens, but when I was in charge big men came up to me with tears in their eyes and said “Sir, thank you for being there for the children!” And that’s my plan, we’ll make America Great Again.
Kamala: (Insert reasonable, thoughtful plan, throws a joke in for brevity).
Media: Wow. That was terrible. Harris smiled too wide and laughed too hard, and that’s really a turn off for the American people on a serious subject like child care. Also Trump lied I guess, but this could be a real problem for Harris.
The problem is, all Donald has to do is be his normal unhinged, hysterical, interrupting, lying self and not use the n word or have a medical emergency on tv and it’s a victory for him.
Kamala has to be perfect and express policy in succinct Detail or else it’s a failure.
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While Trump is literally praying they won’t release pics of his VP blowing a floor lamp.
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The media will guarantee he doesn’t blow it. Anything short of him dying on stage due to a heart attack or something, he will be treated as the best thing since sliced bread
Praying for the Anti-Christ?
This is what’s going to happen:
He won’t answer a single question. He’ll just start attacking Harris and a bunch of other random people about completely irrelevant topics. He’ll go off on a bunch of nonsensical word salad rants. Harris will make a few minor and completely tame flubs, but the right wing media will latch onto them like she just smashed the Ten Commandments, and they’ll declare Trump the “winner” of the debate.
What are they worried about? It’s not like their guy said or wrote
> So there’s a shark 10 yards away from the boat…10 yards. Or here. Do I get electrocuted if the boat is sinking, water goes over the battery. The boat is sinking. Do I stay on top of the boat and get electrocuted, or do I jump over by the shark and not get electrocuted?
and
> “Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible.
and
> This is a tough hurricane, one of the wettest we’ve ever seen, from the standpoint of water.
and
> I heard from the president of Finland, tremendously smart man! He told me that over there, they rake there leaves very often and that prevents most of the forest fires over there. I think if we did that in the great state of California, the forest fires would decrease a tremendous amount.
and
> A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. (To Bryan) And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right? … And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful.
and
> Our army manned the air, it rammed the ramparts, it took over the airports, it did everything it had to do, and at Fort McHenry, under the rockets’ red glare, it had nothing but victory
and
> It used to not be climate change. It used to be global warming. That wasn’t working too well, ’cause it was getting too cold all over the place
and
> The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make US manufacturing non-competitive.
and (discussing the cognitive test he took)
> I proved I was all there because I aced it. I aced the test and [Joe Biden] should take the same exact test. A very standard test. I took it at Walter Reed, a medical center, in front of doctors, and they were very surprised. They said, that’s an unbelievable thing. Rarely does anybody do what you just did.
and
> Hopefully George [Floyd] is looking down right now and saying, ‘This is a great thing that’s happening for our country.’ This is a great day for him. It’s a great day for everybody.
and
> I will build a great wall – and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me – and I’ll build them very inexpensively. I will build a great, great wall on our southern border, and I will make Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words.
and
> I was looking out of a window from a building at Midtown Manhattan directly at the World Trade Center when I saw a second plane at a tremendous speed go into the second tower. It was then that I realized the world was going to change. I was no longer going to be, and it could never, ever be that innocent place that I thought it was. Soon after, I went down to Ground Zero with men who worked for me to try to help in any little way that we could. We were not alone. So many others were scattered around trying to do the same. They were all trying to help.
and
> I know more about ISIS than the generals do. Believe me.
and
> Apologizing is a great thing but you have to be wrong. I will absolutely apologize sometime hopefully in the distant future if I’m ever wrong.
and
> When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending the best. They’re not sending you, they’re sending people that have lots of problems and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.
and
> An extremely credible source has called my office and told me that Barack Obama’s birth certificate is a fraud.
and
> nobody knew that health care could be so complicated
and (posting)
> despite the constant negative press covfefe
(and doubling down on it being intentional) and
> person, woman, man, camera, tv
and
> A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world. So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light — and I think you said that that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and I think you said you’re going to test that, too. It sounds interesting. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that.
and (when asked what he’d do differently from Biden regarding the Ukraine/Russia war
> Well what I would do, is I would, we would, we have tremendous military capability and what we can do without planes, to be honest with you, without 44-year-old jets, what we can do is enormous, and we should be doing it and we should be helping them survivie3 and they’re doing an amazing job.
and
> No water in your faucets. You ever tried buying a new home and you turn it on? They have restrictors in there. You want to wash your hair. You want to wash your hands. You turn on the water and it goes drip, drip. The soap, you can’t get it off your hand. So you keep it running for about ten times longer. You’re trying. The worst is your hair. I have this beautiful, luxuriant hair, and I put stuff on. I put it in. Lather. I like lots of lather because I like it to come out extremely dry because it seems to be slightly thicker that way. And I lather up and then you turn on this crazy shower and the thing drip, drip, and you say, ‘I’m gonna be here for 45 minutes. What?’ They put restrictors and they put them on in places like here where there’s so much water you don’t know what to do with it. You know, it’s called rain. It rains a lot in certain places. But, now their idea, you know, did you see the other day? They just, I opened it up and they closed it again. I opened it, they close it, washing machines to wash your dishes. There is a problem. They don’t want you to have any water. They want no water.
and
> You know, if you go out and you want to buy groceries, you need a picture on a card. You need ID.
and claimed that Obama used a microwave to spy on him
and claimed you could nuke a hurricane
and was reportedly told 10 times by Angela Merkel that he cannot have a deal *just* with Germany but needed to do so with the whole EU before he understood that fact
and the boy scout jamboree speech
and the windmill cancer stuff
and stared into the sun during the solar eclipse
and pronouncing “Yosemite” as “yo, Semite”
and seemed fascinated as he was using a shopping cart
and told a hurricane victim whose yard became the landing spot for someone’s unmoored yacht that he got a nice boat out of the deal
and when he was signing blank papers while hospitalized with COVID
and when he tossed paper towels to hurricane victims
and the hurricane sharpie
and his complaints about water pressure in toilets
and the claim that the census asks about how many toilets are in one’s house
and when he said he met with the president of the Virgin Islands
and called himself a “very stable genius”
and said he is thankful for himself a Thanksgiving dinner
and when he said he wanted to buy Greenland
and when he said the moon was part of Mars
and when he seemed to think that certain fighter jets are actually invisible
And did a photo op where he was smiling and giving a thumbs up while the person next to him was holding a baby who was just orphaned
And repeatedly talking about the “late great Hannibal Lecter,” a *fictional character* (often in positive terms)
And called Tim Cook “Tim Apple”…
You mean to tell me saying stupid shit that may result in him blowing the debate?
Let’s hope their prayers are as effective as the ones for victims of school shootings.
He’s going to completely blow it. He’s shown time and again over the last year that he has, through every fault of his own, painted himself into a corner where there are no right moves for him to expand his electoral appeal.
If he says something that’s not fascists or even center right his based loses it on him.
If he says something fascists everyone else remembers how much and why they hate him.
He’s also in serious physical and mental decline, and can’t string two sentences together that make any sense to anyone who is not already a member of his cult of followers who are deluded idiots that can make his gibberish mean anything they want.
Fascism is a self defeating philosophy and his campaign is transparently fascist and in its terminal phase.
ABC won’t allow it.
The bar is extremely low for him. The only way he can blow the debate in the eyes of those who are leaning towards voting for him is if he collapses or pulls down his pants and defecates live on stage and even then it may not move the needle much.
Meh who knows. We will see. I think auntie K will wipe the floor with him but I’ll wait until it’s done and done to celebrate cause last time I thought Joey Two Scoops was gonna mop the floor with him but Dark Brandon never showed up 🙁
He’ll be the same jackal he always is.
Thoughts and prayers like for the school shootings. I can confirm this will not work.
Donald is a true idiot, but that’s his armor, sadly. There’s nothing he can really do to upset the cult enough to not vote for him. They’re pretty irrational.
The real question is how much will he struggle or succeed at gaining votes? I think he’s at his ceiling and will remain there, but I could be wrong.
I don’t know because I’m not in the mindset of wavering on my vote or my participation in voting…but I guess there’s enough people out there that are still unsure about what they’re gonna do?
The other side of this is that in the debate Harris might not come off looking great. She has a high bar to clear because she’s a real person with skills and intelligence. Trump has a low bar because he’s divorced from reality and functionally stupid. So it’s really kind of Harris’ debate to lose, unfortunately.
Which is the main thing to me. Neither will exactly “win” in this political landscape, but one might certainly “lose” –if that make sense.
It’s ok, the media is going to cover for him and mercilessly scrutinize VP Harris.
They will work as well as the thoughts and prayers to prevent school shootings.
I hope he blows it by dropping the “N”-word.
Thoughts and prayers seems to be about the only thing Republicans can provide for *anything* lately
My gut reaction is that it’s going to go how we all think it will. Trump will be exactly the same as he was in the June debate. Harris will talk 70% about policy, 30% about what Trump is all about since he can’t articulate any of it himself. Framed exactly like that: “Since Donald couldn’t articulate an answer, let me translate…” And he won’t have an open mic to sputter into. If she does it every time, she’s making fun of his greatest weakness to his face.
I think what changes is pundit reaction. Even though Trump is exactly the same, all of a sudden he’s the low hanging fruit. It’s easier to pile on with Harris and make fun of non-answers and hyperbole than discuss whether her proposed change in the marginal tax rate for corporations will increase revenues.
It’s so unfortunate that we live and die by soundbites but Harris comes in with the stronger position here. Trump hasn’t been able to define her at all.
Thoughts and prayers…
But why are there still people willing to work for this man? I would rather go flip burgers than to be associated with his campaign. Why?
I’m praying he does
Harris’ team has surely studied techniques which send Trump into a ditch. Do it early and often. Once in a ditch he can’t recover and will go louder and longer with cries for fear and violence
Kamala will need to convey her vision and also lay a clowning on Trump via some headline grabbing burns that are irresistible to the media-sphere. She knows they’ll give Trump a pass so she has to nail him and give him the beatdown we all wanna see.
Harris needs to be 100% on her game. The Press is going to grade Trump on a big favorable curve. If Trump avoids being a complete moron and avoids shitting his pants on stage, the Press will claim that he won.
I think the risk is on the other side. He can just spew his normal verbal crap, and people say “that’s just Trump,” whereas Kamala needs to be perfect to not be attacked in the public discourse.
I understand the view of people being pessimistic that this debate will do much. But don’t forget we are coming off the back of arguably the most consequential debate in US history. While Trump has always been unhinged, he has notably lost what little sharpness and coherence he had since 2020, 2016. Most people plugged into this stuff have seen this, but a lot of people who do not plug in give presidential debates a lot of attention and weight. Trump having a jarring senior moment or meltdown is in the realm of possibility and, if severe enough, could not be effectively spun by the media.
They can stop praying. Short of stroking out on the stage or physically assaulting someone (and even that might not to do it) the press will say he won or it was a draw.
Praying to ancient Roman Gods no doubt.
*Bless thine Orange Julius!*
Worried about the old obese demented guy who said gems like these? (no way!):
**On African-Americans:**
“[I have a great relationship with the Blacks. I’ve always had a great relationship with the Blacks.](http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/04/donald-trump-i-have-a-great-relationship-with-the-blacks/237332/)”
“[Laziness is a trait in blacks.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/29/donald-trump-blacks-lawsuit_n_855553.html)”
**On African-Americans and Jews:**
“[Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are little short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/29/donald-trump-blacks-lawsuit_n_855553.html)”
**On women:**
“[All of the women on The Apprentice flirted with me—consciously or unconsciously. That’s to be expected.](http://www.bloomberg.com/ss/07/08/0829_eccentric_officers/source/11.htm)”
“[I think the only difference between me and the other candidates is that I’m more honest and my women are more beautiful.](http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a24057/donald-trump-presidential-run-2016-072913/)”
“[You know, it doesn’t really matter what [the media] write as long as you’ve got a young and beautiful piece of ass.](http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a24057/donald-trump-presidential-run-2016-072913/)”
**On environmental degradation:**
“[It’s freezing and snowing in New York. We need global warming!](http://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/266259787405225984)”
“[Remember, new ‘environmentally friendly’ lightbulbs can cause cancer. Be careful: the idiots who came up with this stuff don’t care.](http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/258593090107998208)”
**On foreign policy:**
“I rented him a piece of land,” [he told Fox News](http://gawker.com/5783999/donald-trump-i-screwed-muammar-qaddafi) about his relationship with Muammar Qaddafi. “He paid me more for one night than the land was worth for two years, and then I didn’t let him use the land. That’s what we should be doing. I don’t want to use the word ‘screwed’, but I screwed him.”
“To the victor belong the spoils,” [he said to Bill O’Reilly](http://nation.foxnews.com/bill-oreilly/2011/03/31/trump-stay-iraq-and-take-over-oil), about his stance of staying in Iraq after the war. Therefore he would “stay and we keep the oil.”
“[China’s Communist Party has now publicly praised Obama’s reelection. They have never had it so good. Will own America soon.](http://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/266661264992915457)”
Hope he fucks up as always, BIGLY, but the MAGAts won’t care, so…
So basically, they have NO confidence whatsoever that he will follow what they want him to say. And with good reason too.
Given his behavior lately and his spiralling lack of coherence, no wonder why they are so desperate for him not to blow it.
And Kamala Harris baiting him is a big thing that she will do.
Interesting that his team has no confidence in his abilities whatsoever…
Like she said she knows his type. Flimflam, talk talk talk and makes no sense but it’s like ASMR for his mob and nails on a blackboard for the rest of us.
Trump was horrible in the Biden debate but it got very little attention because Biden was worse. That began the serious push to get Joe to step aside. To me, it isn’t about Kamala winning, it’s about Trump being so incoherent that even his MAGA supporters realize he is finished. To avoid the “civil war” scenario that would occur in a close or contested election, even MAGA has to realize Trump isn’t electable. Trump snd Vance are doing a great job of destroying themselves. Kamala just has to let them continue
Hopefully their thoughts and prayers will be as effective as usual.
Thoughts and prayers really is their go-to for everything.
The debate is basically 2 people who will be speaking to the audience similar to a rally. The 2 candidates will not engage in any meaningful dialogue that will clarify positions on the issues. It is a waste of time. I am glad that Kamala has remained quiet on policy positions to date as that gives Trump less ammunition and areas to meander, obfuscate and conflate. The debate will be nothing more than a lousy soap opera. Let Trump talk- the more he talks the more people are disgusted (beyond his base). He cannot win with his base alone.
That should work, thoughts and prayers have fixed school shootings /s
He’ll blow it.
The media will pretend he didn’t.
And we will move on.
I think I will just go back to my slutty western romance novels.
We all know how effective thoughts and prayers are.
>“She’ll be personal and try to demean him,” Gingrich told *Politico*. “I think, I hope, what he’ll do is be a guy who’s been a real president—while she has been kind of a semi-vice president—and a guy who knows all the world leaders, and a guy who has been through an enormous amount, and just be calm and steady and stick to the real differences.”
So the hope is that at long last, Trump does a pivot and acts presidential.
Dear god, that’s funny. I understand why they’re praying.
There’s an absolute ZERO percent chance that he isn’t going to look like a complete jackass.
What is your plan to improve childcare?
Trump: Look, that’s so so important, so we’ll tax the windmills from china, because tariffs are big big money and the green new deal causes toilets to flush 10, 20, 50 times and that’s why the water is so bad now, but the water was so beautiful, the best water you’ve ever seen when I was running things, but now you’ve got bad bad people trying to steal your guns and gas ovens, but when I was in charge big men came up to me with tears in their eyes and said “Sir, thank you for being there for the children!” And that’s my plan, we’ll make America Great Again.
Kamala: (Insert reasonable, thoughtful plan, throws a joke in for brevity).
Media: Wow. That was terrible. Harris smiled too wide and laughed too hard, and that’s really a turn off for the American people on a serious subject like child care. Also Trump lied I guess, but this could be a real problem for Harris.
I want to hear Harris use the following phrases:
* Convicted felon
* Adjudicated rapist
* Insurrection
The problem is, all Donald has to do is be his normal unhinged, hysterical, interrupting, lying self and not use the n word or have a medical emergency on tv and it’s a victory for him.
Kamala has to be perfect and express policy in succinct Detail or else it’s a failure.