Even though the last government will haunt us for a long time, I’m starting to agree with the opinion pieces that he should probably stop talking about it soon.
klepto_entropoid on
NHS was broken by Tony Blair. Targets and endless tiers of management. All the Tories did was run an IV in to it and suck out all the “billions invested”. There will be no improvement as long as we operate a two tier health service and continue to import our medical professionals while either actively refusing to train our best and brightest or making it financial suicide (50k+ student loan to start on 30k)
Folkestoner on
Everyone knows this. He needs to stop stating the obvious and tell us what he’s gonna do about it
Ambitious-Quiet-5769 on
As someone who voted Labour, I liked the fact they called out the problems facing the country. However, what they didn’t do it is outline concrete solutions. Everything they said was kind of vague by design. My worry as emphasised by this interview is that they don’t actually have any.
Nearby_Run1610 on
Yes, yes, we all agree. Stop talking about it and fix it then.
Fresh_Mountain_Snow on
The problem with the NHS is an aging population. Vast amounts of money have been pumped into it by all governments. £1 out of every £5 spent is on the NHS. I think the new labour government needs to be realistic on what it can do rather than promising fixes, at least until the baby boomer generation has passed away.
boingwater on
Is this him making excuses as to why Labour can’t provide the 40,000 extra appointments they pledged?
NagromNitsuj on
How long was this guy the opposition leader? Because so far all I’ve heard him do is claim he knows nothing about all of these issues. Should he not have been asking questions? Should he not know about the £22 billion deficit? I think it’s time for him to step aside. But before he does, he should hand back all the wages for all the work he hasn’t done.
All-Day-stoner on
It’s going to be a lone time before we see any improvement to the NHS. I love how most people think a new 8 week government can change everything immediately lol
Starmer has the right to point out what a 14yr Conservative reign has done to our NHS. We should harshly judge Labour’s policies after they’ve had time to do something.
TinFish77 on
Why on earth would any party leader feel the need to point out such things?
Unless they demonstrate otherwise very soon my view is going to be that they are planning to make things worse, privatisation-wise, and this doom-spiel is the justification for such as that. I don’t see it working if that is indeed the plan.
lost_somedays on
IT WAS BROKEN BY THATCHER. THIS WAS THE PIVOTAL SHIFT FROM LOOKING OUT FOR BRITS VS SHORT TERM WEALTH AND MARKET GREED.
And she decided it was better to make that generation wealthier at the expense of being able to house the next gen’s kids.
And everything after thatcher is a multiculturalism joke, to make up for her legacy of selling the working class short. So yes expect global multi-millionaires buying up your city real estate and a housing monopoly based on private company’s
Because we don’t care about our working class people, the actual labour. we want to be a middle economy selling financial services with a high valued pound.
No it’s not racist, and anyone who says I am racist can go and fucking milk a cunt. That bitch has no idea of her legacy while the bourgeois and aristocracy want to laud her. Her economic legacy is the reason for the populist right.
going_down_leg on
‘That house is on fire’
‘Yeah I know mate that’s why I called you to put it out. Did you bring a hose?’
More empty Tory bashing. What’s Labour going to do about it?
Yes prior governments fucked up, everyone knows. Don’t need a report for that, just need to try and make a GP appointment.
Further, a lot of blame also falls on the utterly dysfunctional civil service which always seems to be overlooked.
greylord123 on
People saying “why doesn’t he just fix it” as if he’s a miracle worker.
It’s not something you can “fix”. We need to generate more tax revenue from nowhere. We have an aging population who are a huge drain on the public coffers because naturally old people use the NHS more and they also claim state pension. What do you do when a huge chunk of your population is using the resources put not contributing? How do you suddenly generate the income to account for them?
Means testing the winter fuel allowance is a step in the right direction but it’s still nowhere near enough. Even then the right wing media are trying to spin this as robbing destitute pensioners.
I don’t think there’s a fix. There’s mitigation but I don’t think there’s a fix until the balance of pensioners to workers swings back towards the workers.
CustardFilledSock on
Any mention on increasing vacancies so we fellow allied health professionals, nurses and midwives who have graduated from healthcare degrees can get jobs? Nope? None. Lovely.
marbleyarncake on
I mean…yeah? Now stop talking to the news and fix it?
ThatGuyMaulicious on
I’m starting to see a pattern here of him blaming previous governments for everything. He’s Prime Minister now he has a huge majority so he can basically do what he wants its your burden and its your job to fix it not just point the finger. Its all well and good pointing out there’s issues but if you don’t provide a reasonable and fully budgeted solutions otherwise you might as well not mention it at all.
Labour cabinet has seemed to of mastered the art of saying a lot and doing absolutely fucking nothing.
HorseBarrierRoad on
Lol. The NHS has been broken by malingering laziness and poor management and agitating unions. It’s nothing to do with funding or government.
Popeychops on
Come on lad, the country believed you when you said that during the campaign and handed you a transformative parliamentary majority.
Tell us what you’re going to do about it. Give us a crumb of hope
Plumb121 on
All governments break the NHS. If it was a Limited company then it would have been insolvent years ago and trading illegally. There is too much lethargy within the service and a decent management company would turn it around within a year. Most of the people on the lower echelons work their arses off to compensate for the uppers that don’t. It’s unique in it’s failure
Dry_Sandwich_860 on
Well, of course the same thickies who voted for 14 years of chaos and decline are whinging that he’s talking about reality. If he doesn’t, those people are going to whinge that he hasn’t magically fixed everything. People need to be made to confront what they did. Nothing Starmer can say can change the fact that we are in a mess and will be for a long time. Don’t like it? Why did you choose it or sit back and do nothing while others chose it?
WaterMittGas on
Only way to fix the NHS is to change it to a similar health service like Germany
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Even though the last government will haunt us for a long time, I’m starting to agree with the opinion pieces that he should probably stop talking about it soon.
NHS was broken by Tony Blair. Targets and endless tiers of management. All the Tories did was run an IV in to it and suck out all the “billions invested”. There will be no improvement as long as we operate a two tier health service and continue to import our medical professionals while either actively refusing to train our best and brightest or making it financial suicide (50k+ student loan to start on 30k)
Everyone knows this. He needs to stop stating the obvious and tell us what he’s gonna do about it
As someone who voted Labour, I liked the fact they called out the problems facing the country. However, what they didn’t do it is outline concrete solutions. Everything they said was kind of vague by design. My worry as emphasised by this interview is that they don’t actually have any.
Yes, yes, we all agree. Stop talking about it and fix it then.
The problem with the NHS is an aging population. Vast amounts of money have been pumped into it by all governments. £1 out of every £5 spent is on the NHS. I think the new labour government needs to be realistic on what it can do rather than promising fixes, at least until the baby boomer generation has passed away.
Is this him making excuses as to why Labour can’t provide the 40,000 extra appointments they pledged?
How long was this guy the opposition leader? Because so far all I’ve heard him do is claim he knows nothing about all of these issues. Should he not have been asking questions? Should he not know about the £22 billion deficit? I think it’s time for him to step aside. But before he does, he should hand back all the wages for all the work he hasn’t done.
It’s going to be a lone time before we see any improvement to the NHS. I love how most people think a new 8 week government can change everything immediately lol
Starmer has the right to point out what a 14yr Conservative reign has done to our NHS. We should harshly judge Labour’s policies after they’ve had time to do something.
Why on earth would any party leader feel the need to point out such things?
Unless they demonstrate otherwise very soon my view is going to be that they are planning to make things worse, privatisation-wise, and this doom-spiel is the justification for such as that. I don’t see it working if that is indeed the plan.
IT WAS BROKEN BY THATCHER. THIS WAS THE PIVOTAL SHIFT FROM LOOKING OUT FOR BRITS VS SHORT TERM WEALTH AND MARKET GREED.
And she decided it was better to make that generation wealthier at the expense of being able to house the next gen’s kids.
And everything after thatcher is a multiculturalism joke, to make up for her legacy of selling the working class short. So yes expect global multi-millionaires buying up your city real estate and a housing monopoly based on private company’s
Because we don’t care about our working class people, the actual labour. we want to be a middle economy selling financial services with a high valued pound.
No it’s not racist, and anyone who says I am racist can go and fucking milk a cunt. That bitch has no idea of her legacy while the bourgeois and aristocracy want to laud her. Her economic legacy is the reason for the populist right.
‘That house is on fire’
‘Yeah I know mate that’s why I called you to put it out. Did you bring a hose?’
‘That house is on fire’
Well, according to Laura Kuenssberg, we can’t [blame](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx28d72948vo) the past government for anything.
Looks like it’s all Labour’s fault, I can’t believe they’ve already broken the NHS 2 months in!
/s
The Tories blamed the “last Labour government” in 2022-2024, 12-14 years after they’d left power
This sub and Laura Kuenssberg didn’t bat an eye
Keir Starmer is blaming the last Tory government, 2 months after they’ve left power
“Stop blaming the Tories! You can’t keep shifting the blame”
This sub and the BBC make me want to tear my hair out
Examples:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx28d72948vo
https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/s/kT7BFghyOc
https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/s/obeH6SLypy
We even have one “last Labour government” broke the NHS, when they had the lowest wait times in decades
https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/s/BQKwkFCPH1
More empty Tory bashing. What’s Labour going to do about it?
Yes prior governments fucked up, everyone knows. Don’t need a report for that, just need to try and make a GP appointment.
Further, a lot of blame also falls on the utterly dysfunctional civil service which always seems to be overlooked.
People saying “why doesn’t he just fix it” as if he’s a miracle worker.
It’s not something you can “fix”. We need to generate more tax revenue from nowhere. We have an aging population who are a huge drain on the public coffers because naturally old people use the NHS more and they also claim state pension. What do you do when a huge chunk of your population is using the resources put not contributing? How do you suddenly generate the income to account for them?
Means testing the winter fuel allowance is a step in the right direction but it’s still nowhere near enough. Even then the right wing media are trying to spin this as robbing destitute pensioners.
I don’t think there’s a fix. There’s mitigation but I don’t think there’s a fix until the balance of pensioners to workers swings back towards the workers.
Any mention on increasing vacancies so we fellow allied health professionals, nurses and midwives who have graduated from healthcare degrees can get jobs? Nope? None. Lovely.
I mean…yeah? Now stop talking to the news and fix it?
I’m starting to see a pattern here of him blaming previous governments for everything. He’s Prime Minister now he has a huge majority so he can basically do what he wants its your burden and its your job to fix it not just point the finger. Its all well and good pointing out there’s issues but if you don’t provide a reasonable and fully budgeted solutions otherwise you might as well not mention it at all.
Labour cabinet has seemed to of mastered the art of saying a lot and doing absolutely fucking nothing.
Lol. The NHS has been broken by malingering laziness and poor management and agitating unions. It’s nothing to do with funding or government.
Come on lad, the country believed you when you said that during the campaign and handed you a transformative parliamentary majority.
Tell us what you’re going to do about it. Give us a crumb of hope
All governments break the NHS. If it was a Limited company then it would have been insolvent years ago and trading illegally. There is too much lethargy within the service and a decent management company would turn it around within a year. Most of the people on the lower echelons work their arses off to compensate for the uppers that don’t. It’s unique in it’s failure
Well, of course the same thickies who voted for 14 years of chaos and decline are whinging that he’s talking about reality. If he doesn’t, those people are going to whinge that he hasn’t magically fixed everything. People need to be made to confront what they did. Nothing Starmer can say can change the fact that we are in a mess and will be for a long time. Don’t like it? Why did you choose it or sit back and do nothing while others chose it?
Only way to fix the NHS is to change it to a similar health service like Germany