USA kills almost double the number of children with guns, vs cancer. Completely delusional.
im_rusty_shakleford on
But what about all their thoughts and prayers? Are you telling me that they were all for nothing?!
South_Butterfly_6542 on
If I was able to interview JD or Trump, I would ask: “Is a mass post-birth abortion okay if it’s performed by a child with a gun? Because you seem to think that is fine.”
But catching republicans out on their hypocrisy does absolutely nothing so maybe it’s wasted breath.
We can and should jail the parents in these circumstances, but that won’t fix anything, it’s just more typical american vengeance.
Archer1407 on
Mass shootings are the price we’ve all decided, collectively, is acceptable for ubiquitous access to guns and that ability to carry them whenever and wherever people want with few exceptions.
I used to think there were “good” gun owners and wanted to be included in that group, but now I just assume that anyone who owns a gun just wants to murder people. They hide behind the guise of protection but they’re itching to murder someone who comes into their home for any reason. Take them all away. There’s a reason mass shootings don’t happen in countries with tight gun legislation.
fowlraul on
“Not is not the time to talk about the gun problem” …every time
KamalaInChief on
The interesting thing to me is the change in who does them and how.
It started with Columbine where they wore trench coats, hats and sunglasses, had bags of guns and bombs, actually had social lives and interests (fucked though they may have been), and they ran around that school like they were in the Matrix lobby gunfight scene.
Remember the pic of the Virginia Tech shooter? He thought he was in an action movie. They used to suit up in body armor and wear camo. It was about being a spectacle, getting revenge, getting news coverage, getting your manifesto read.
Now? Now we get depressed 14 year old incels who steal their parents gun and go shoot into a single classroom.
I haven’t seen much commentary on the shift in these things, but I’d be interested in hearing it from someone with a background in sociology/anthropology or maybe psychology.
We’ve grown so accustomed to them that we haven’t stopped to talk about how drastically they’ve changed since ’99.
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Puzzled_Pain6143 on
GOP’s ideology is: actively preparing for tyranny.
Doomsday prophets got tired waiting for their prophecy to come, thus they started to fulfill it, albeit not at the scale they expected, but better smth than nothing!
SoundSageWisdom on
Duh
maddjustin2024 on
Some people have replaced owning a gun w having a personality. It becomes them. How do we roll that back?
ACrask on
Hard for something non-existent to collapse
GOP is strongly infatuated with their guns, which is why they make up conspiracy theories of their doors getting knocked down and they’ve come up with phrases such as, “Come and get it,” like they’re some tough guys who in reality will fold and only say, “Yes, officer,” if something like that ever happened (it won’t).
SeekingHappinessInNY on
If people aren’t going to give up their guns, could we at least require mechanisms like fingerprint or facial recognition that would disable a gun unless a registered owner is using it? Or could people keep all but one of their guns in some sort of firing range repository, and check them out to shoot at the firing range or for hunting? That way, they’d still be allowed something like a shotgun or revolver at home for their protection, but things like AR-15s would be kept at the firing range?
QanonQuinoa on
Don’t worry guys, schools are protected from the important things like drag queens and books!
emostitch on
How many mass shooters are directly supplied by their GOP voting parents? This kid, Michigan, Charleston…
hillbillyspellingbee on
The GOP is now the party of incel/school shooter culture. “If you’re not with me, you’re against me”.
I don’t mean this in any joking manner. They’ve taken decades of incel culture since the Columbine shooting to Sandy Hook to yesterday’s shooting in Georgia, and they’ve made it mainstream.
Look at JD Vance.
The guy sounds and acts like a school shooter or someone who would encourage a school shooter. Crass, cold, and emotionally unstable. No empathy or self-reflection. Makes everything black and white.
cybermort on
On this one, there’s more blame to go around than just for the Party.
Obama was right about those who are bitter and cling to their guns and religion, and they deserve plenty of blame as well.
humcohugh on
Mass shooting are a result of guns being so pervasive in our society. Any angry, demented person has easy access to weapons that can kill many people at a distance.
alvarezg on
Mass shooting are the result of unlimited gun availability.
Significant_Dark2062 on
Just like the hundreds of mass shootings before this one, nothing will be done about it, and we will be crying about another school shooting next year.
boogb1sh on
Pretty sure it’s guns
ZenDruid_8675309 on
My only problem with this title is that you cannot “collapse” something you never had. They never cared about kids in the first place, just that NRA laundered Russian money.
icouldusemorecoffee on
About time a major news outlet blamed the actual ones responsible for all these deaths. Dems and victims have been screaming it for decades, but nearly all these mass shootings (and a lot of individual shootings, suicides, etc.) are because of GOP inaction on gun responsibility reform.
thoptergifts on
The same GOP that bitches about the low birth rate. Who the fuck wants to have kids in this kind of mass school shooting normalizes society?
pattydickens on
The toxic masculinity they constantly spew is a big part of the overall increase in hostility, in my opinion. I live in a conservative area, and it feels like everyone is constantly angry and looking for a fight. If you don’t look and act just like them, they perceive your existence as a threat. It’s annoying, and it needs to go away.
RetiredAerospaceVP on
To call the GOP a dumpster fire would be to denigrate dumpster fires. The GOP is beyond redemption.
Stranger-Sun on
Amen. More of this line of reasoning in the media please.
SunMoonTruth on
And having “more Jesus” in schools won’t work since the evilgelicals don’t even follow Jesus’ teachings.
These people are lost in the wilderness.
VicTheQuestionSage on
Because NRA money is more important than the lives of children. It’s greed is what it is.
llahlahkje on
Absolutely and a vast majority of Americans, including a majority of *Republicans* are in favor of some low effort, common sense gun control measures.
Bandeezio on
If we break gun ownership down into Republican versus Democrat, we should be able to see the difference in being prone to mass shooting because of your ideological views vs just fun ownership.
Keep in mind like 99% of gun owners don’t commit mass shootings so the gun ownership part is not likely the most influential factor.
It’s more about media propaganda from ideological extremes, guns just make it easy but there are many other highly available options if you have the crazy ideologies running wild to inspire them.
It’s just that when all we do is talk about gun control we’re not really addressing the core motivation that drives people to act like this and when you don’t do that it kind of feels like you’re not gonna solve the problem much.
LinkTitleIsNotAFact on
I don’t get the comments, the shooter has the opposite views which you guys are talking about. The parents were conservative but the shooter himself wasn’t and he was open about it.
I_SuplexTrains on
The vast majority of “mass shootings” are inner-city gang members spraying at each other with handguns. How do Democrats propose we mitigate this? Do you want to ban the sale of all firearms? If so, please look into the camera and say this to the country, plain and clear.
tdclark23 on
That’s why they can vote for a felon.
broke_boi1 on
Where was the good teen with a gun?? We need to lower the age to buy guns! If Americas teens were armed to the teeth, these senseless deaths could have been avoided! /s
Apprehensive-Fun4181 on
*Things That Were Always True* for $500, Alex.
homebrew_1 on
Also a result of people voting for GOP and public apathy.
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Were they ever moral?
USA kills almost double the number of children with guns, vs cancer. Completely delusional.
But what about all their thoughts and prayers? Are you telling me that they were all for nothing?!
If I was able to interview JD or Trump, I would ask: “Is a mass post-birth abortion okay if it’s performed by a child with a gun? Because you seem to think that is fine.”
But catching republicans out on their hypocrisy does absolutely nothing so maybe it’s wasted breath.
We can and should jail the parents in these circumstances, but that won’t fix anything, it’s just more typical american vengeance.
Mass shootings are the price we’ve all decided, collectively, is acceptable for ubiquitous access to guns and that ability to carry them whenever and wherever people want with few exceptions.
I used to think there were “good” gun owners and wanted to be included in that group, but now I just assume that anyone who owns a gun just wants to murder people. They hide behind the guise of protection but they’re itching to murder someone who comes into their home for any reason. Take them all away. There’s a reason mass shootings don’t happen in countries with tight gun legislation.
“Not is not the time to talk about the gun problem” …every time
The interesting thing to me is the change in who does them and how.
It started with Columbine where they wore trench coats, hats and sunglasses, had bags of guns and bombs, actually had social lives and interests (fucked though they may have been), and they ran around that school like they were in the Matrix lobby gunfight scene.
Remember the pic of the Virginia Tech shooter? He thought he was in an action movie. They used to suit up in body armor and wear camo. It was about being a spectacle, getting revenge, getting news coverage, getting your manifesto read.
Now? Now we get depressed 14 year old incels who steal their parents gun and go shoot into a single classroom.
I haven’t seen much commentary on the shift in these things, but I’d be interested in hearing it from someone with a background in sociology/anthropology or maybe psychology.
We’ve grown so accustomed to them that we haven’t stopped to talk about how drastically they’ve changed since ’99.
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GOP’s ideology is: actively preparing for tyranny.
Doomsday prophets got tired waiting for their prophecy to come, thus they started to fulfill it, albeit not at the scale they expected, but better smth than nothing!
Duh
Some people have replaced owning a gun w having a personality. It becomes them. How do we roll that back?
Hard for something non-existent to collapse
GOP is strongly infatuated with their guns, which is why they make up conspiracy theories of their doors getting knocked down and they’ve come up with phrases such as, “Come and get it,” like they’re some tough guys who in reality will fold and only say, “Yes, officer,” if something like that ever happened (it won’t).
If people aren’t going to give up their guns, could we at least require mechanisms like fingerprint or facial recognition that would disable a gun unless a registered owner is using it? Or could people keep all but one of their guns in some sort of firing range repository, and check them out to shoot at the firing range or for hunting? That way, they’d still be allowed something like a shotgun or revolver at home for their protection, but things like AR-15s would be kept at the firing range?
Don’t worry guys, schools are protected from the important things like drag queens and books!
How many mass shooters are directly supplied by their GOP voting parents? This kid, Michigan, Charleston…
The GOP is now the party of incel/school shooter culture. “If you’re not with me, you’re against me”.
I don’t mean this in any joking manner. They’ve taken decades of incel culture since the Columbine shooting to Sandy Hook to yesterday’s shooting in Georgia, and they’ve made it mainstream.
Look at JD Vance.
The guy sounds and acts like a school shooter or someone who would encourage a school shooter. Crass, cold, and emotionally unstable. No empathy or self-reflection. Makes everything black and white.
On this one, there’s more blame to go around than just for the Party.
Obama was right about those who are bitter and cling to their guns and religion, and they deserve plenty of blame as well.
Mass shooting are a result of guns being so pervasive in our society. Any angry, demented person has easy access to weapons that can kill many people at a distance.
Mass shooting are the result of unlimited gun availability.
Just like the hundreds of mass shootings before this one, nothing will be done about it, and we will be crying about another school shooting next year.
Pretty sure it’s guns
My only problem with this title is that you cannot “collapse” something you never had. They never cared about kids in the first place, just that NRA laundered Russian money.
About time a major news outlet blamed the actual ones responsible for all these deaths. Dems and victims have been screaming it for decades, but nearly all these mass shootings (and a lot of individual shootings, suicides, etc.) are because of GOP inaction on gun responsibility reform.
The same GOP that bitches about the low birth rate. Who the fuck wants to have kids in this kind of mass school shooting normalizes society?
The toxic masculinity they constantly spew is a big part of the overall increase in hostility, in my opinion. I live in a conservative area, and it feels like everyone is constantly angry and looking for a fight. If you don’t look and act just like them, they perceive your existence as a threat. It’s annoying, and it needs to go away.
To call the GOP a dumpster fire would be to denigrate dumpster fires. The GOP is beyond redemption.
Amen. More of this line of reasoning in the media please.
And having “more Jesus” in schools won’t work since the evilgelicals don’t even follow Jesus’ teachings.
These people are lost in the wilderness.
Because NRA money is more important than the lives of children. It’s greed is what it is.
Absolutely and a vast majority of Americans, including a majority of *Republicans* are in favor of some low effort, common sense gun control measures.
If we break gun ownership down into Republican versus Democrat, we should be able to see the difference in being prone to mass shooting because of your ideological views vs just fun ownership.
Keep in mind like 99% of gun owners don’t commit mass shootings so the gun ownership part is not likely the most influential factor.
It’s more about media propaganda from ideological extremes, guns just make it easy but there are many other highly available options if you have the crazy ideologies running wild to inspire them.
It’s just that when all we do is talk about gun control we’re not really addressing the core motivation that drives people to act like this and when you don’t do that it kind of feels like you’re not gonna solve the problem much.
I don’t get the comments, the shooter has the opposite views which you guys are talking about. The parents were conservative but the shooter himself wasn’t and he was open about it.
The vast majority of “mass shootings” are inner-city gang members spraying at each other with handguns. How do Democrats propose we mitigate this? Do you want to ban the sale of all firearms? If so, please look into the camera and say this to the country, plain and clear.
That’s why they can vote for a felon.
Where was the good teen with a gun?? We need to lower the age to buy guns! If Americas teens were armed to the teeth, these senseless deaths could have been avoided! /s
*Things That Were Always True* for $500, Alex.
Also a result of people voting for GOP and public apathy.