This is like the opposite of the evil plot in Johnny English yet some how more messed up
Observer73 on
12% of prisoners in UK prisons are non-uk citizens. We could try sending them home. 16% of people in Uk prisons are on remand. We could try investing in the justice system to give them justice quicker.
Sidebottle on
Why is this controversial? Sure it’s not ideal, but apart from visitations, what would be the issue if appropriate legal protections are in place?
Other-Tip7035 on
Or just let the less harmful British prisoners that were in prison for ciber crime for instance out
lewjt on
I thought it said “pensioners” when I first read it.
winkwinknudge_nudge on
Legally the UK can’t do that until the Justice Bill is passed granting it the powers to.
DimSumMore_Belly on
I was so tired when l read the headline and saw pensioners instead of prisoners, and thought “why the fuck are we sending OAPs there and how is that going to help us?!?!?!?”
JimJonesdrinkkoolaid on
They do things like this in other countries.
I’m sure I read that Dutch prisoners were being sent to Norway at one point.
Probably had a better chance of not reoffending when they came out as well.
FRUltra on
I thought the whole point of brexit was to lower immigration and to use the money the UK gives to the EU for Eastern Europe and use it on themselves
Yet 4 years have passed, and the UK is currently facing an overcrowding issue with their prisons due to a lack of funding (despite having been supposed to be in a better budget situation due to not being a EU beneficiary) and immigration from the Middle East and South Asia (even though the main reason for brexit was because of the levels of immigration), forcing them to ask for assistance from an tiny Eastern European state. That to me is just hilarious
Anyway, can someone explain to me why one of the wealthiest countries in the world cannot house their prison population? What’s the need of such an advanced military to protect the UK from outside forces when the prison, as well as the police system cannot protect it from within?
Dexta_94 on
Rehabilitation does not exist in British prisons. Violence and drug use has blighted them. This countries answer to everything is sending people to prison. Yes, some people deserve to be in jail, 100 percent.
Jail should not be the answer in every circumstance. Community service or drink/drug rehabilitation work would suit those who steal to fund an addiction for example. That would be tackling the root cause of offending.
See it this way, if you lock someone up constantly for 23 or more hours a day, have them exposed to violence and drug usage, also take into account staff shortages so you can’t access these so called offender programmes which aren’t even proven to reduce risk, also workshops and/or education. You essentially have a recipe for disaster, they’ll walk out those gates worse off and an even greater risk to the public.
Also take into consideration the terrible mental health support, or healthcare for that matter inside prisons.
It’s the recalls that are taking up a vast majority of spaces, and most of the time it’s for the stupidest of things. You then have to ask yourself, why is the recall rate so high? The answers right in front of you.
LogTheDogFucksFrogs on
I don’t support it for obvious reasons but at times like these you realise one very attractive thing about the death penalty: it’s cheap.
Funk_Dunker on
My tired brain read that as pensioners!! Got really concerned for my dad for a second there, he’s only a couple years off retirement.
EmphaticallyYes on
Sending someone to Estonia for posting on Facebook lol.
Ok-Cut-2730 on
Surprised theres less then 100k people in prison.
Obviously thats going to sky rocket into the millions soon if the governement are serious about carrying on sending people down for making mean comments on facebook or retweeting mean things.
Then you’ve also got gamers, the things i hear people saying and the threats during online shooting games. So we’re going to have to find even more millions of places for them.
We will need a lot more courts to be built and judges ready to go. That is if the government are being serious about the things they’re doing or are just cherry picking cases for public image.
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This is like the opposite of the evil plot in Johnny English yet some how more messed up
12% of prisoners in UK prisons are non-uk citizens. We could try sending them home. 16% of people in Uk prisons are on remand. We could try investing in the justice system to give them justice quicker.
Why is this controversial? Sure it’s not ideal, but apart from visitations, what would be the issue if appropriate legal protections are in place?
Or just let the less harmful British prisoners that were in prison for ciber crime for instance out
I thought it said “pensioners” when I first read it.
Legally the UK can’t do that until the Justice Bill is passed granting it the powers to.
I was so tired when l read the headline and saw pensioners instead of prisoners, and thought “why the fuck are we sending OAPs there and how is that going to help us?!?!?!?”
They do things like this in other countries.
I’m sure I read that Dutch prisoners were being sent to Norway at one point.
Probably had a better chance of not reoffending when they came out as well.
I thought the whole point of brexit was to lower immigration and to use the money the UK gives to the EU for Eastern Europe and use it on themselves
Yet 4 years have passed, and the UK is currently facing an overcrowding issue with their prisons due to a lack of funding (despite having been supposed to be in a better budget situation due to not being a EU beneficiary) and immigration from the Middle East and South Asia (even though the main reason for brexit was because of the levels of immigration), forcing them to ask for assistance from an tiny Eastern European state. That to me is just hilarious
Anyway, can someone explain to me why one of the wealthiest countries in the world cannot house their prison population? What’s the need of such an advanced military to protect the UK from outside forces when the prison, as well as the police system cannot protect it from within?
Rehabilitation does not exist in British prisons. Violence and drug use has blighted them. This countries answer to everything is sending people to prison. Yes, some people deserve to be in jail, 100 percent.
Jail should not be the answer in every circumstance. Community service or drink/drug rehabilitation work would suit those who steal to fund an addiction for example. That would be tackling the root cause of offending.
See it this way, if you lock someone up constantly for 23 or more hours a day, have them exposed to violence and drug usage, also take into account staff shortages so you can’t access these so called offender programmes which aren’t even proven to reduce risk, also workshops and/or education. You essentially have a recipe for disaster, they’ll walk out those gates worse off and an even greater risk to the public.
Also take into consideration the terrible mental health support, or healthcare for that matter inside prisons.
It’s the recalls that are taking up a vast majority of spaces, and most of the time it’s for the stupidest of things. You then have to ask yourself, why is the recall rate so high? The answers right in front of you.
I don’t support it for obvious reasons but at times like these you realise one very attractive thing about the death penalty: it’s cheap.
My tired brain read that as pensioners!! Got really concerned for my dad for a second there, he’s only a couple years off retirement.
Sending someone to Estonia for posting on Facebook lol.
Surprised theres less then 100k people in prison.
Obviously thats going to sky rocket into the millions soon if the governement are serious about carrying on sending people down for making mean comments on facebook or retweeting mean things.
Then you’ve also got gamers, the things i hear people saying and the threats during online shooting games. So we’re going to have to find even more millions of places for them.
We will need a lot more courts to be built and judges ready to go. That is if the government are being serious about the things they’re doing or are just cherry picking cases for public image.