Go to any car boot sale and you’ll see it all for sale. The last18 months they’ve become brazen with how open they are with it. Never seen anything on the scale of it before.
marquess_rostrevor on
Gangs aren’t the type of co-op that co-op want to deal with.
ben_bedboy on
There’s always gangs of anti immigrants in Liverpool City centre harassing people
LazyPoet1375 on
Mostly it’s people stealing to resell, and it’s both open and brazen. I see groups of 2-4 people walk in, fill a basket, and walk out daring security guards to stop them, which they don’t.
These aren’t people on the bread line, stealing to feed starving children.
I’ve stopped a few in my time, but nobody seems to care that much.
GamerLinnie on
The article doesn’t support the title.
And the article is a bit all over the place. Which honestly makes sense because I doubt there is a singular reason.
They talk about gangs clearing entire shelves but also about people staying under £200 so that the police doesn’t get involved.
It talks about how some people say this isn’t caused by people trying to just survive but the increase does go hand in hand with the worst inflation.
It also doesn’t really go into who these gangs sell too.
Codydoc4 on
Think that was plainly obvious, this notion that it’s downtrodden mothers stealing baby formula is an absolute lie dreamed up by do-gooders on social media, it’s organised criminal gangs who have spotted that the Police and wider CJS won’t do anything
AcademicIncrease8080 on
Shoplifting has effectively been decriminalised, you can steal from shops with a vanishingly low chance of going to prison or even doing community service even when caught red handed. The shoplifting videos I increasingly see on Tiktok typically are filming criminals who don’t even bother to cover their face or identity when doing it, that is how relaxed they are about not getting punished.
Until there is some sort of guaranteed and swift punishment, the epidemic will continue. It doesn’t even have to be prison time, just some sort of zero tolerance punishment. Maybe 1 hour of community service for every £5 worth of goods stolen – and set up fast-track courts to get criminals into community service asap.
They solved the riots with swift and harsh sentencing, so they clearly understand that harsh sentencing is incredibly effective at stopping criminal behaviour. But for crimes like shoplifting, bike theft, phone snatching – the approach is decriminalisation (soft sentencing).
bluecheese2040 on
Suspect there is a story the far right could use in this.
AhhBisto on
I always thought it was a little of them both, like clearly the people nicking aren’t pretending they’re Robin Hood.
A friend of my sister had a baby a couple of years back and she had a guy who nicked her nappies and the powdered milk stuff, but clearly the money he used for drugs would go to dealers and probably by extension a gang while simultaneously helping a single mother with a baby.
Are gangs directing the thefts though? Maybe I just have a stereotype firmly in my head of a drug addict making money for their next hit as opposed to a criminal network of gangs making money selling stolen steaks.
nazrinz3 on
It’s definitely got a lot worse since labour got in
jodrellbank_pants on
All drugs near me its the same faces every day, wagu steaks, and alcohol, the steak bin got cleared after filling every day they only sold one out of 50 steaks and that was reduced.
They cant even sell them once they are brought back if they are caught
One guy has been arrested over 300 times, he’s banned but still comes into my partners shop, they don’t care
They don’t even run any more and are quite blatant about it as there’s no security and the police only turn up 5 minutes later unless they catch them outside.
They know who they are and just give them carte blanche to the whole town, its a joke, there a waste of oxygen at this point.
Far_Throwaway_today on
I was walking down the shops the other day. There was a homeless begger guy packing up his stuff. He was on the phone to his “boss” saying he didn’t wanna work today and he was going home. And his “boss” said he had to stay there and work for a bit longer.
Shot-Ad5867 on
Well no fucking shit. Anyone with eyes or a working brain can see that. So when are we going to smash these fucking gangs then?
Klumber on
I think I’d like to see actual figures. Retail’s always put a premium on prices to cover theft or unexplained loss of goods. Not that I’m saying this isn’t bad, just want to know how large of a problem it actually is.
A friend of mine lives in the silicon valley area and despite all the media attention for ‘outrageous shoplifting in San Fran’ he’s not noticed any of it. Sure, there’s crime, where isn’t there?
Ryanhussain14 on
If this shit doesn’t stop, we’re gonna see systems like in some US cities where basic groceries are locked behind glass panels and you need to call an assistant to unlock them for you.
Blackmore_Vale on
It’s genuinely getting dangerous to work in retail at the moment. I know quite a few people myself included who have been beaten up by shop lifters. And it’s always the same faces stealing the sands things. But we are told not to intervene. But it didn’t stop them jumping the counters and terrorising the staff.
QuarkVsOdo on
And there is a Gang-Owned supermarket across the street that sells the stolen goods for half, right?
Skrungus69 on
Wait, it says that its up 44% at the start but then later on says that retail theft has doubled? Doesnt quite add up.
Also, the coop is hardly an independant source in this lol.
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Go to any car boot sale and you’ll see it all for sale. The last18 months they’ve become brazen with how open they are with it. Never seen anything on the scale of it before.
Gangs aren’t the type of co-op that co-op want to deal with.
There’s always gangs of anti immigrants in Liverpool City centre harassing people
Mostly it’s people stealing to resell, and it’s both open and brazen. I see groups of 2-4 people walk in, fill a basket, and walk out daring security guards to stop them, which they don’t.
These aren’t people on the bread line, stealing to feed starving children.
I’ve stopped a few in my time, but nobody seems to care that much.
The article doesn’t support the title.
And the article is a bit all over the place. Which honestly makes sense because I doubt there is a singular reason.
They talk about gangs clearing entire shelves but also about people staying under £200 so that the police doesn’t get involved.
It talks about how some people say this isn’t caused by people trying to just survive but the increase does go hand in hand with the worst inflation.
It also doesn’t really go into who these gangs sell too.
Think that was plainly obvious, this notion that it’s downtrodden mothers stealing baby formula is an absolute lie dreamed up by do-gooders on social media, it’s organised criminal gangs who have spotted that the Police and wider CJS won’t do anything
Shoplifting has effectively been decriminalised, you can steal from shops with a vanishingly low chance of going to prison or even doing community service even when caught red handed. The shoplifting videos I increasingly see on Tiktok typically are filming criminals who don’t even bother to cover their face or identity when doing it, that is how relaxed they are about not getting punished.
Until there is some sort of guaranteed and swift punishment, the epidemic will continue. It doesn’t even have to be prison time, just some sort of zero tolerance punishment. Maybe 1 hour of community service for every £5 worth of goods stolen – and set up fast-track courts to get criminals into community service asap.
They solved the riots with swift and harsh sentencing, so they clearly understand that harsh sentencing is incredibly effective at stopping criminal behaviour. But for crimes like shoplifting, bike theft, phone snatching – the approach is decriminalisation (soft sentencing).
Suspect there is a story the far right could use in this.
I always thought it was a little of them both, like clearly the people nicking aren’t pretending they’re Robin Hood.
A friend of my sister had a baby a couple of years back and she had a guy who nicked her nappies and the powdered milk stuff, but clearly the money he used for drugs would go to dealers and probably by extension a gang while simultaneously helping a single mother with a baby.
Are gangs directing the thefts though? Maybe I just have a stereotype firmly in my head of a drug addict making money for their next hit as opposed to a criminal network of gangs making money selling stolen steaks.
It’s definitely got a lot worse since labour got in
All drugs near me its the same faces every day, wagu steaks, and alcohol, the steak bin got cleared after filling every day they only sold one out of 50 steaks and that was reduced.
They cant even sell them once they are brought back if they are caught
One guy has been arrested over 300 times, he’s banned but still comes into my partners shop, they don’t care
They don’t even run any more and are quite blatant about it as there’s no security and the police only turn up 5 minutes later unless they catch them outside.
They know who they are and just give them carte blanche to the whole town, its a joke, there a waste of oxygen at this point.
I was walking down the shops the other day. There was a homeless begger guy packing up his stuff. He was on the phone to his “boss” saying he didn’t wanna work today and he was going home. And his “boss” said he had to stay there and work for a bit longer.
Well no fucking shit. Anyone with eyes or a working brain can see that. So when are we going to smash these fucking gangs then?
I think I’d like to see actual figures. Retail’s always put a premium on prices to cover theft or unexplained loss of goods. Not that I’m saying this isn’t bad, just want to know how large of a problem it actually is.
A friend of mine lives in the silicon valley area and despite all the media attention for ‘outrageous shoplifting in San Fran’ he’s not noticed any of it. Sure, there’s crime, where isn’t there?
If this shit doesn’t stop, we’re gonna see systems like in some US cities where basic groceries are locked behind glass panels and you need to call an assistant to unlock them for you.
It’s genuinely getting dangerous to work in retail at the moment. I know quite a few people myself included who have been beaten up by shop lifters. And it’s always the same faces stealing the sands things. But we are told not to intervene. But it didn’t stop them jumping the counters and terrorising the staff.
And there is a Gang-Owned supermarket across the street that sells the stolen goods for half, right?
Wait, it says that its up 44% at the start but then later on says that retail theft has doubled? Doesnt quite add up.
Also, the coop is hardly an independant source in this lol.