People Before Profit members want party to end support for a Sinn Féin-led government over ‘racist’ immigration stance
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/people-before-profit-members-want-party-to-end-support-for-a-sinn-fein-led-government-over-racist-immigration-stance/a1250639681.html
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Just a reminder PBP are not a serious party
I feel like PBP always end their support for a SF led government in the run up to or immediate aftermath of an election.
Why are they using a picture of leo?
These clowns will never stop being funny
Boyd-Barrett and Murphy must have been sitting around conspiring ways to do anything not to get into government. They would last about 5 minutes until the wheels fall off
Leftists and in-fighting. Name a better duo.
Well SF must be doing something right.
Well, of course they do. The last place PBP wants to be is actually in government.
> “Sinn Féin is now a party with racist polices, designed to limit immigration,” the motion says. “Sinn Féin can no longer be regarded as a party of the left. Continuing to present Sinn Féin as a left-wing party will seriously damage our credibility with the electorate.”
So we can say that PBP is the party of immigration? As they are in favour of unregulated migration?
The Case for a Left Government was launched March 2023.
Will be interesting to see if this motion changes that position.
It was literately the only thing PbP could offer in terms of making a difference after the next election. If they’re going to bail on that what’s the point in voting for them?
To be fair, this seemed inevitable? SF seem to not know who they want to be and are trying to be everything to everyone and the opinion of this Reddit if you’ve followed any of the posts about SF blowing their lead is that they screwed up on immigration and seem to lurch from side to side. Whether you think PBP is a for realsies party or not, they probably shouldn’t be touching that any time soon?
Spend the whole tenure of this Dail talking about a SF led left wing government.
The second there is the wiff of a GE they have ran to the opposition benches.
A vote for PBP is a vote for the current government.
Having a functioning immigration system is not racist
These same PBP members likely the ones criticising Labour for pulling out of the DCC coalition negotiations over property tax… Fundamentally unserious organisation.
Spoiler: Sinn fein ain’t getting in 🤣 it’s going to be the same again or a fg or ff singular.
PBP has an entire section on their website dedicated to their support for Palestine. Now, I’m not against Palestine, but the thing is, they have no section on combatting crime in our own country. No even mention of it. No mention of antisocial behaviour in their manifesto.
They’re more worried about a conflict half way across the globe than domestic issues. Not to mention their looney calls for abolition of borders and dropping the EU’s external borders for all. A truly insane and unserious party.
Every time I hear PBP talking about another left wing party I think of The People’s Front of Judea V The Judean People’s Front.
Wasters who would rather LARP.
As I get older, I really begin to see how unreasonable and unfit for governance the likes of PBP are. I can appreciate their left-wing stance but they just couldn’t share power with other parties I’d say. No room for compromise
Rightly, so. SF with the biggest bag-fumble since Labour in 2011
For fuck’s *sake*. We had a once in a lifetime chance to oust FFG and they’ve all gone and pissed it away in the space of a year.
The Indo are making a big deal out of nothing here. The article mentions that this is a proposal from one PBP branch. Local party branches come out with mad proposals all the time, often driven by one or two active members. If PBP’s national council meeting actually passes the motion it’ll be newsworthy but until then it’s just ragebait designed to appeal to people’s existing beliefs about PBP.
On the one hand this was guaranteed because PBP are fucking allergic to the idea of being in charge of anything.
On the other hand, this is actually a reasonable position to take, and SFs’ recent stances on immigration are incompatible with left-wing politics. On balance, a net positive for PBP IMO.
People before reality…
Brilliant. I hope SF run more candidates in their constituencies and decimate their handful of TDs.
Proper empty vessels making the most noise vibes.
>with racist polices, designed to limit immigration,
Chef’s kiss. They’re literally equating any policy to limit immigration as “racist” no matter what.
The missus demanded I end my efforts to seduce Margot Robbie and Sydney Sweeney,.so I can understand the pressure PBP leadership is under, given I had the same chance with those two as they have of entering a coalition with anybody.
They might well have no TDs in a few weeks.
A bigger laugh is them thinking they’ll be kingmakers.
I’d be surprised if any of them get back in bar Boyd Barrett.
Sure Ruth Coppinger had to decamp to leafy Castleknock given how muck her name is in the area she used to rep.
PBP are the worst
Of course they do, their biggest fear is actually ending up in government
Remember folks, the left will always eat themselves if you leave them alone.
Bearing in mind this is only one branch of the party I don’t think they ultimately will withdraw support for a SF led government.
That said, they need to be careful with this type of rhetoric for a couple of reasons. Firstly, PBP’s complete lack of pragmatism and focus on political grandstanding and purity tests is ultimately what made me move away from them in the north.
And secondly, ceding all ground on immigration policy to be the sole purview of the right wing is a dangerous precedent to set and allows them an easy avenue for growth.
I’d love to know who actually votes for PBP candidates.
This is no surprise, they’ve been constantly [criticising](https://www.pbp.ie/?s=sinn+fein) Sinn Fein for not being hardcore Leftists for years now. It just goes to show; a Leftist’s worst enemy is another Leftist they share 90% of the same views with.
People seem to be ignoring the fact that they think Sinn Féin votes are up for grabs. The loudly online wing of SF were very left-wing, PBP obviously think they can take those votes.
How are they so fucking stupid or are they willingly playing FFGs game. Their so committed to great issues I care about, but then they pull this bullshit instead of sucking up their “pride” and comprising. They act like any immigration law means putting on the Facists armband. Absolute donkeys.
This is a Motion, no decision has been made. Please read the article.