If the polling results, across all companies comes true, surely it must go down as one of the biggest fumbles in Irish political history?
Managing to climb from 14% in 2014 to 36% in 2022, and then fall all the way to 18%, without ever being in government.
Maultaschenman on
Even as a Sinn fein voter, this downfall will be studied by scholars for generations
A-Hind-D on
Not a good luck in the run up
AdamKleinspodium on
There are so many FG TDs dipping out that I could easily see them being unable to convert this
Prestigious_Talk6652 on
They’re too easy with changing their position in accordance with the latest opinion poll.
Nobody knows what they stand for. If anything.
marquess_rostrevor on
Call me ignorant all you want and you’ll probably be right, but I feel like I never see Mary Lou anymore.
Dry-Communication922 on
SF couldnt organise a pissup in a brewery. They are more preoccupied with LARPing in the rain and getting hungover teenagers and local headers to do leaflet drops.
Toffeeman_1878 on
The only poll worth anything is the election.
justsayinbtw on
Knew something was up at the last election when people said they were voting for sinn fein and couldn’t name any candidates.
Cultural-Unit7766 on
The only question you need to ask a SF canvasser is this.
If SF had been granted their perceived God given right to coalition with FF in 2020 (there was honestly SF loons out there proclaiming that they had been robbed and that MLMD was the real Taoiseach), tell me how we would be in a different position today in terms of
– house prices
– immigration
– inflation
– the cost of fuel, gas and electricity
– minimum unit pricing on alcohol
SF supported EVERY SINGLE GOVERNMENT MEASURE that contributed to the above myriad of crises.
Lockdown, ending direct provision, Ukraine refugee intake, Russia sanctions, climate change nonsense- they didn’t divert from the current government on a single one of those issues. Not once.
Also- ask them why its grand to be Billy Big Bollocks on the sidelines demanding that the Israeli ambassador be expelled, when there is absolutely ZERO chance they would have advocated for this if they were in a coalition last October.
Sarkeologist on
Enjoy being ruled by FF FG forever then, I guess 🤷♂️
funpubquiz on
Polls are meaningless and the Sunday Indo rig theirs anyway.
Willing-Departure115 on
50% for the government. Reminder that all the “No more FFFG ever” you see online is… pretty far from where the country is.
slevinonion on
We have every variety of the exact same party. Wish we had actual alternatives.
caisdara on
I suspect she hasn’t fully recovered from her illnesses. She’s been largely absent from public debate, which, married to SF’s dodgy policy positions is a major weakness.
Key-Lie-364 on
Again?
That’s surprising I genuinely thought the nod and the wink to the CoolockSaysNo people with the migration policy shift and the reupping of housing rhetoric would work for them in clawing back a few percentage points.
BXL-LUX-DUB on
She’s just not as interesting as Micheál Martin.
Envinyatar20 on
Womp womp. It was never real anyway. A purely poll based coalition. They could still reach govt in a multiparty coalition that features Fianna Fáil but they’d really end up annihilating their base forever with the compromises that would require, so extremely unlikely. Pretty sure their top tier TDs don’t actually want to be in govt for that reason.
Steve2540 on
It’s such a strange dynamic in this country. Purely on an anecdotal basis, everyone I speak to about Irish politics always says the same thing: that they are sick of the current government. Yet when it comes to a GE they always get voted back in.
Do people really believe the current gov can actually fix things in this country? Being realistic, are there any other parties big enough to form a government? If not then why not take a chance on giving current opposition party a go?
I’m more interested in just getting someone else in at this point, the current two parties have not done enough to improve the lives of the Irish people. In my eyes that have failed at every avenue and the thoughts of them being back in again sends a shiver down my spine.
boardsmember2017 on
I find it hard to understand tbh, I thought their support for Palestine would have been worth a few points at least. Their policy on migration is where the government needs to get to IMO. Surprised that the polls are playing out like this.
Rayzee14 on
Mods aren’t aware this poll is even out seemingly had a post deleted claiming there was no poll.
Gemini_2261 on
A big chunk of Sinn Féin’s support at the last general election was a protest vote from a disaffected section of the electorate fed up with the establishment parties. Probably many now see what SF are: bluffers without any real radical agenda, only interested in legitimising the Adams strategy of capitulation and sellout.
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POLL: Sunday Independent/Ireland Thinks (August 29-30, MoE 2.6%)
* Fine Gael 25 (+1)
* Fianna Fáil 21 (+1)
* Sinn Féin 18 (-1)
* Social Democrats 4 (-1)
* Greens 4
* Labour 4
* Aontú 3 (-1)
* PBP-Solidarity 2
* Independents/others 19 (+1)
2 year trend:
https://preview.redd.it/fdejn3b0z0md1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=14973babf131f2ec29def3ffd3e4b13f237186ff
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Mary is history if those polls pan out.
If the polling results, across all companies comes true, surely it must go down as one of the biggest fumbles in Irish political history?
Managing to climb from 14% in 2014 to 36% in 2022, and then fall all the way to 18%, without ever being in government.
Even as a Sinn fein voter, this downfall will be studied by scholars for generations
Not a good luck in the run up
There are so many FG TDs dipping out that I could easily see them being unable to convert this
They’re too easy with changing their position in accordance with the latest opinion poll.
Nobody knows what they stand for. If anything.
Call me ignorant all you want and you’ll probably be right, but I feel like I never see Mary Lou anymore.
SF couldnt organise a pissup in a brewery. They are more preoccupied with LARPing in the rain and getting hungover teenagers and local headers to do leaflet drops.
The only poll worth anything is the election.
Knew something was up at the last election when people said they were voting for sinn fein and couldn’t name any candidates.
The only question you need to ask a SF canvasser is this.
If SF had been granted their perceived God given right to coalition with FF in 2020 (there was honestly SF loons out there proclaiming that they had been robbed and that MLMD was the real Taoiseach), tell me how we would be in a different position today in terms of
– house prices
– immigration
– inflation
– the cost of fuel, gas and electricity
– minimum unit pricing on alcohol
SF supported EVERY SINGLE GOVERNMENT MEASURE that contributed to the above myriad of crises.
Lockdown, ending direct provision, Ukraine refugee intake, Russia sanctions, climate change nonsense- they didn’t divert from the current government on a single one of those issues. Not once.
Also- ask them why its grand to be Billy Big Bollocks on the sidelines demanding that the Israeli ambassador be expelled, when there is absolutely ZERO chance they would have advocated for this if they were in a coalition last October.
Enjoy being ruled by FF FG forever then, I guess 🤷♂️
Polls are meaningless and the Sunday Indo rig theirs anyway.
50% for the government. Reminder that all the “No more FFFG ever” you see online is… pretty far from where the country is.
We have every variety of the exact same party. Wish we had actual alternatives.
I suspect she hasn’t fully recovered from her illnesses. She’s been largely absent from public debate, which, married to SF’s dodgy policy positions is a major weakness.
Again?
That’s surprising I genuinely thought the nod and the wink to the CoolockSaysNo people with the migration policy shift and the reupping of housing rhetoric would work for them in clawing back a few percentage points.
She’s just not as interesting as Micheál Martin.
Womp womp. It was never real anyway. A purely poll based coalition. They could still reach govt in a multiparty coalition that features Fianna Fáil but they’d really end up annihilating their base forever with the compromises that would require, so extremely unlikely. Pretty sure their top tier TDs don’t actually want to be in govt for that reason.
It’s such a strange dynamic in this country. Purely on an anecdotal basis, everyone I speak to about Irish politics always says the same thing: that they are sick of the current government. Yet when it comes to a GE they always get voted back in.
Do people really believe the current gov can actually fix things in this country? Being realistic, are there any other parties big enough to form a government? If not then why not take a chance on giving current opposition party a go?
I’m more interested in just getting someone else in at this point, the current two parties have not done enough to improve the lives of the Irish people. In my eyes that have failed at every avenue and the thoughts of them being back in again sends a shiver down my spine.
I find it hard to understand tbh, I thought their support for Palestine would have been worth a few points at least. Their policy on migration is where the government needs to get to IMO. Surprised that the polls are playing out like this.
Mods aren’t aware this poll is even out seemingly had a post deleted claiming there was no poll.
A big chunk of Sinn Féin’s support at the last general election was a protest vote from a disaffected section of the electorate fed up with the establishment parties. Probably many now see what SF are: bluffers without any real radical agenda, only interested in legitimising the Adams strategy of capitulation and sellout.