Can’t even get 2 pints for €10, the traditional local will die.
WickerMan111 on
Sad to see loss of business but the drinking culture in this country is declining and that can only be a good thing.
A lot more coffee shops have opened and they seem to be taking their place.
Responsible_Crab835 on
Only so much ripping off the public can take
MrStarGazer09 on
Drinking a bit less is probably good for us, but it is a sad situation. Pubs have always been the big, and sometimes only, social hubs for people in a lot of towns around the country.
Xamesito on
Industry did it to itself while fleecing us. They deserve it.
RevTurk on
I think they should go back to the original brief. Make it a public house, allow people to use it as such, stop focusing on alcohol.
The pub used to be a place where the whole family went, there was entertainment for everybody because of that. They removed the kids and the entertainment and turned many pubs into drinking holes. Obviously it wasn’t great that adults where getting drunk around children but it was much more of a community facility, they killed that side of things.
DesertRatboy on
And we have one of the highest per capita rates of pubs in the world. This should be seen for what it is – blatant industry lobbying.
Cultural-Unit7766 on
“‘Dublin lost just 2.8%”
Thats because theyre classing new craft bars, gastro joints, Wetherspoons as pubs.
Actual pubs- places that smell of hops and must, oul lads- they are plummeting. I dont know how many derelict ones there are in the inner city now.
New estates are no longer built with a pub beside the Spar and small business units- until 20 odd years ago it would be mandatory.
Going the same way as nightclubs for the same reason. Id be surprised if on this sunny Friday there are more than a dozen late teens lads in all of the suburban pubs of Dublin right now.
Truth_To_Powder on
That’s a positive
Animated_Astronaut on
I gotta say Im definitely seasonal with the pub. During the summer I’d be more inclined to be out and about than cosy in. Autumn to spring I’m there. But I certainly wouldn’t mind some late night, non alcohol based outings.
jaqian on
No one to blame but themselves
AnT-aingealDhorcha40 on
*whispers
“It’s the fucking price of pints. Fucking obviously.”
Margrave75 on
Would like to see some details on those figures.
I wonder how many were a family buisness, with nobody to take over?
How many were rented/leased premises unable to sustain high rents, etc.
Living_Ad_5260 on
The irish times podcast yesterday claimed that the closure rate for bars and restaurants is up to 2 per day for the past 12 months.
Birdinhandandbush on
Fine Gael are the no craic party, they don’t care. Work till you collapse on your couch and only have the energy to drink over priced wine at home.
WoahGoHandy on
I saw this press release hit a load of media outlets this morning and the numbers just don’t make sense to me. They say 114 pubs close a year nationwide. 114 divided by 26 is 4.5 pubs a year. Now I know this is most likely weighted towards the bigger counties but in my normal sized county, I count about 6 or 7 pubs that have closed since covid. I’d love to see a list of the pub closures.
How many emergency departments have we lost in the same time? This should be bigger news than “outdated business model phasing out”
Longjumpingpea1916 on
The local used to be more of a communal thing, from what I gather, since I was going to pubs that was well dead in most the country, but like back in the day it didn’t seem to cost so much, and sounds like it was much more social, like my parents talk about when father Ted initially came out everyone would go down and watch it in the pub
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Can’t even get 2 pints for €10, the traditional local will die.
Sad to see loss of business but the drinking culture in this country is declining and that can only be a good thing.
A lot more coffee shops have opened and they seem to be taking their place.
Only so much ripping off the public can take
Drinking a bit less is probably good for us, but it is a sad situation. Pubs have always been the big, and sometimes only, social hubs for people in a lot of towns around the country.
Industry did it to itself while fleecing us. They deserve it.
I think they should go back to the original brief. Make it a public house, allow people to use it as such, stop focusing on alcohol.
The pub used to be a place where the whole family went, there was entertainment for everybody because of that. They removed the kids and the entertainment and turned many pubs into drinking holes. Obviously it wasn’t great that adults where getting drunk around children but it was much more of a community facility, they killed that side of things.
And we have one of the highest per capita rates of pubs in the world. This should be seen for what it is – blatant industry lobbying.
“‘Dublin lost just 2.8%”
Thats because theyre classing new craft bars, gastro joints, Wetherspoons as pubs.
Actual pubs- places that smell of hops and must, oul lads- they are plummeting. I dont know how many derelict ones there are in the inner city now.
New estates are no longer built with a pub beside the Spar and small business units- until 20 odd years ago it would be mandatory.
Going the same way as nightclubs for the same reason. Id be surprised if on this sunny Friday there are more than a dozen late teens lads in all of the suburban pubs of Dublin right now.
That’s a positive
I gotta say Im definitely seasonal with the pub. During the summer I’d be more inclined to be out and about than cosy in. Autumn to spring I’m there. But I certainly wouldn’t mind some late night, non alcohol based outings.
No one to blame but themselves
*whispers
“It’s the fucking price of pints. Fucking obviously.”
Would like to see some details on those figures.
I wonder how many were a family buisness, with nobody to take over?
How many were rented/leased premises unable to sustain high rents, etc.
The irish times podcast yesterday claimed that the closure rate for bars and restaurants is up to 2 per day for the past 12 months.
Fine Gael are the no craic party, they don’t care. Work till you collapse on your couch and only have the energy to drink over priced wine at home.
I saw this press release hit a load of media outlets this morning and the numbers just don’t make sense to me. They say 114 pubs close a year nationwide. 114 divided by 26 is 4.5 pubs a year. Now I know this is most likely weighted towards the bigger counties but in my normal sized county, I count about 6 or 7 pubs that have closed since covid. I’d love to see a list of the pub closures.
Or even better, does anyone have the historical liquor licenses for ever year? So this file https://www.revenue.ie/en/corporate/documents/statistics/excise/liquor-licences.pdf but going back 20 years
Where did they go!? We must find them!
God help us
How many emergency departments have we lost in the same time? This should be bigger news than “outdated business model phasing out”
The local used to be more of a communal thing, from what I gather, since I was going to pubs that was well dead in most the country, but like back in the day it didn’t seem to cost so much, and sounds like it was much more social, like my parents talk about when father Ted initially came out everyone would go down and watch it in the pub
WHY ARE NO POLITICIANS TALKING ABOUT THIS?