Smoking to be banned in pub gardens & in kids’ parks leaked gov plans reveal

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/30136407/smoking-banned-pub-gardens-government-plans/

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  1. MimesAreShite on

    keir is really speedrunning New Labour. he’s already defaulting to banning and curtailing things when he can’t think of anything else to do.

  2. AlligatorInMyRectum on

    Surprised it wasn’t banned in kids parks. Pub gardens could just ban kids instead?

  3. Odd-Currency5195 on

    Recently moved to a new city. Spent a couple of weeks in their big tourist area in an airbnb waiting to move into my new place out in the sticks. All the pubs, as in the inside of the buildings, were empty but the ‘pub gardens’ as in yards and paved bits around the pubs were packed – and weather not an issue – as in loads of umbrellas and generally set up for people to be outside. People love drinking and smoking. It’s great they have a place to do that. But no more it seems. That’s a few more old historic pubs being converted into estate agents or charity shops as more people stay at home to smoke and drink to protect the children….

  4. RainOfBurmecia on

    Just seems such a stupid thing to put any time into given the amount of issues going elsewhere.

    They banned smoking in bus stops back in 2020 and I’ve yet to see it be enforced or stop people doing it.

    I think it’s pretty safe to assume people stupid or self hating enough to smoke sticks of cancer aren’t going to give a shit about other people, unless you start enforcing and issuing fines this will do zero.

  5. Scared-Room-9962 on

    Surprised it’s not banned in kids parks already.

    The rest is nanny state awfulness. My regret at voting for Labour grows daily.

  6. Clear_Barnacle_3370 on

    Well, that will be the death of many more pubs.

    I’m a smoker and didn’t have an issue with banning smoking inside, but at this point I think it should be a decision for those running the business. If you think you’ll get more custom banning smoking outside, then do so.

    No one is forced to go to any particular pub and if a totally smoke free pub is what people want then you will make money if you go that way.

    Hospitals, kids playgrounds etc, sure ban it through legislation.

  7. We can’t build anything anymore but our industry of banning things has never been hotter

  8. Kid’s parks is good. Not blowing gaseous cancer in kid’s faces is always a good thing to encourage, I feel.

    Pub gardens, though? That’s going a bit far. I get it, not everybody wants to be around cigarette smoke when they’re trying to have a good time… but then, leave it up to the pub.

  9. Thought kids playgrounds was banned but people don’t give a toss, pub beer gardens though they can wait for the riots!!!

  10. I don’t smoke, and I don’t like to be around people if they are smoking.

    But surely there is a point to letting people make their own choices in life.

    Why can’t pubs just decide if they are going to cater to smokers outside or not?

  11. Mental_Experience_92 on

    Kids parks makes sense

    But pubs makes no sense. Let people enjoy a ciggy with their beer.

    I get that people don’t like it but that’s hardly a solution. I don’t like breathing in fumes when I am out and about, doesn’t mean that vehicles with ICE should be banned. Life is full of unpleasant things (but a lot less that previous generations)

  12. Monkeyboogaloo on

    Kids parks…I spend a fair bit of time in them (I have a young daughter and don’t carry sweets or have any puppies to see), I very rarely see smoking.

    Pub gardens?

    Does anyone really want to stop that? Is that a problem? It might annoy me but not enough to ban it.

  13. BigBeanMarketing on

    Fine with a ban around the kids parks yeah, but pubs doesn’t really make any sense. It’s a place for adults to go and do adult things, like drinking and smoking. We’ve already pushed the smokers outside, lets not banish them into the wilderness like that episode of the IT crowd. Dictating what pubs can and cannot do is not a good look.

  14. Really stupid seeing how many people smoke in pub gardens including quite a lot of the staff who actually run pubs. I’m all for banning it inside but this feels a bit too nanny state

  15. Hopefully they’ll ban vapes too. They smell horrible and I really don’t want to be breathing in that second hand muck

  16. MingTheMirthless on

    First they came for the smokers.. And you did nothing because you didn’t smoke.. Next they came for..

  17. Pubs are adult spaces, so don’t impinge on adults’ ability to enjoy themselves (legally) due to children

    Children and parents should adapt to the behaviour of adults in pubs, including accepting that people will smoke, be drunk, and sometimes swear it speak about inappropriate topics. In the same way that most adults would not drink alcohol or smoke in a school

  18. TheAwesomeMan123 on

    Simpler solution, ban the smokers from the kids parks and ban the kids from the smokers parks.

    I don’t smoke or like inhaling second hand smoke but if you ban it from pub gardens then who on earth is even going to go to them?

  19. The_Chosen_Eggplant on

    Pubs will just fence off an area and create it as a non garden surely. What a silly rule though for the pubs. Kids parks, fair enough.

  20. Not_Alpha_Centaurian on

    I’m an ex smoker and can grudgingly get behind the need to have banned smoking in doors… but beer gardens? At that point you might as well just ban cigarettes altogher.

  21. Littlemonkeyfella0 on

    Lots of places (for example wetherspoons) have designated smoking areas in beer gardens anyway, so diners and nonsmokers can sit separately without being subjected to smoke. All this will do is cause smokers to spill out into the streets outside pubs instead of being contained in beer gardens (unless they straight up ban smoking in all public spaces?)

  22. Define “pub garden”. Hopefully this will never go through, but if it does I will trust in the publicans ingenuity to play to the loopholes.

  23. I’m in favour, I love the outside of pubs or bars but they’re generally outside seating and a smoking area. Ruins it a bit having to breathe it in

  24. Impossible-Shift8495 on

    Next Kier will be banning landlords from their own pubs when he’s out campaigning….oh yeah he already did that a few years back.

  25. Regret voting for Labour so much. He’s all for nannying and banning. Nannying what we do online included.

  26. Dull_Half_6107 on

    The kids park one makes sense.

    I don’t even smoke and I think banning it in pub gardens isn’t a good idea.

  27. Remarkable-Ad155 on

    Kids parks I get but what’s the purpose of banning it in pub beer gardens? Shouldn’t this just be up to individual venues and customers? 

    I’m not opposed to banning things where there’s a clear and obvious negative externality (eg bar staff can’t just choose to get away from smoke indoors) but smoke dissipates quickly outside. Not to mention all the other unhealthy shit people do in pubs, stuffing their faces with junk food and booze, is secondhand smoke really the biggest issue here?

    Focus on stuff that matters for fuck’s sake. 

  28. youngdumbaverage on

    With all the problems that need attention someone having a smoke outside with a pint is what they deem a priority to address. Great job lads 👍

  29. Outside nightclubs too??

    They can absolutely fuck off with that.

    I think many people and establishments simply won’t comply. I’m not even a smoker and I’m annoyed at the thought of not being allowed to smoke in a pub garden with a glass of wine.

  30. deadblankspacehole on

    I’m still going to smoke at pub gardens when this happens

    Even if you smoke indoors at bigger venues security just moan at you, if you get caught

    You’re not meant to smoke weed in public either and I been doing that for decades soooo good luck officer, good luck Karen, good luck softies

  31. Good. Now ban it even harder and double the price

    Shits gross

    I am so fucking desperate to quit

    Anybody defending smoking is off their tits. It provides absolutely no benefit to society. We don’t need it. We don’t need companies profiting off it. Fucking ban it