Honestly one of the most patronising acts of false care that Fine Gael and Fianna Fail have ever pulled.
It’s nothing but an insult to the intelligence of citizens and actually does nothing but show what contempt the government has for the average worker and person.
You have a ‘right to request’ to work from home, and your employer has the ‘right’ to tell you to go and fuck off.
Strong shout for the worst government the country has ever had.
YoIronFistBro on
Don’t worry, we knew that already…
doates1997 on
Up to the company, End of the day if they trust the employee to do the work they should allow work from home.
Amount of time money and energ i save from working from home. Helps me stay focused in work.
If i was still in the office id of burned out years ago.
Jacksonriverboy on
Do we not already have a “right to request” whatever the hell we like from employers?
And they have the right to say “bugger off”.
Big waste of Dail time and money to pass a pointless piece of legislation.
BrickEnvironmental37 on
They suddenly realized that all of that office space in the City Centre is going to waste and that the shops and cafes around them have suffered.
I have a friend that works for indeed. They moved into the new very expensive offices on the quays around Covid. She tells me that whenever she does go into the office that it’s an absolute ghost town.
Personally I think it is a good thing to not have the economy centralized into one area. It boosts the economies in the suburbs and satellite towns.
oklama_mrmorale on
Unless a job absolutely requires you to be on site I don’t see why anyone shouldn’t be allowed wfh, whether full time or 2/3 days a week. Personally I love working from home, saves 2 hour commute everyday, frees up a lot of time for me to get stuff outside of work done & overall less stress without management watching your every move.
Imbecile_Jr on
So it’s working as intended? Anyone with a half brain could see where this was headed. Like many other things in Ireland, it was designed to create the _appearance_ that something is being done. The official motto of Ireland should be _”All hat, no cattle.”_
willielad on
This did look a bit suspect at the time but I presumed it was just named poorly and that there would be a lot more detail in the law but it seems that’s not the case from the look of this article.
Also is there anything employees aren’t “allowed” request?
Almost every one of the reviewed laws in Europe is the same as the one in Ireland.
– Employees have a right to request remote work
– Companies must have a policy and must follow that policy when making a decision
– Unless both the employer and employee agree, remote work is not a legal requirement
There are a couple of small exceptions to this, such as :
– Portugal, but only for serious domestic violence situations or a child under 3
– Finland, with their Working Time model from 2019, which has flexible working hours/location for up to 50% of hours worked
– Romania, with a right to 1 day a week remote work for people who work exclusively on a computer.
Every other country in Europe either doesn’t have a law or has a law almost identical to ours.
RedPandaDan on
Ten thousand cases could go towards the WRC and every one will go in the employers favour. Even if one by accident goes to the employee, it just changes the answer from “No” to “No, for reasons we have copy/pasted from the WRC website.”
The law is genuinely harmful and should be abolished, it’s leading people to believe they have protections that don’t exist.
jamster126 on
That first case is a joke. Why should that person have to wake crazy early and drive over 2.5 hours to the office 3 days a week when all her team are based in US and Canada? She is essentially driving in to not be sat with her team. It’s ridiculous.
Andalfe on
The Irish political classes view the people as absolute tards.
INXS2021 on
You keep voting for these parties so do you expect any other result??
SugarInvestigator on
Strange, I explained my circumstances over a teams.call to my line manager. He said OK no problem. Can I just ask that you come.in occasionally just so you’re seen by higher management?
It’s been 6 months now and I’ve been into teh office 6 times, one of those was a strategy meeting with those senior managers where most everyone else was remote.
dropthecoin on
a lot of people who are critical of this law. But what exactly do people want as an alternative? Practically, how do they want an alternative WFH law to work?
OrganicVlad79 on
You’d think a party like the Greens or Social Democrats would support better WFH legislation. Would be an easy vote winner
Sciprio on
They work for big business, They’ll tax you like crazy for the environment but actually working from home would make a huge difference but those funds renting out offices need to retain or their increase their value so they lobby the governments across the world to get people back into the offices. The Green Party should be pushing for this!
SignalEven1537 on
Another waste of everyone’s time. Thanks FFG you really give a shit /s
Gullible_Actuary_973 on
Was the job performed by anyone fully remote during Covid?
Under the same circumstances would the employee be expected to switch to fully remote work again?
Is there an aspect of the work that can’t be done remotely, please explain in detail why?
I think something like this and the onus on the company to provide the details. My boss is a nightmare for the office is king mentality. He also avoids people and meetings as much as possible.
He literally wants ppl in the office to justify having the office. He’s told me as much. I manage a team of 15, so I attend the office twice a week because they all have to attend 3 times. Those 2 days I’m in I get literally nothing done bar chatting to people.
This shite from the government is their usual level of useless.
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Good. Get back to the office, slackers.
Honestly one of the most patronising acts of false care that Fine Gael and Fianna Fail have ever pulled.
It’s nothing but an insult to the intelligence of citizens and actually does nothing but show what contempt the government has for the average worker and person.
You have a ‘right to request’ to work from home, and your employer has the ‘right’ to tell you to go and fuck off.
Strong shout for the worst government the country has ever had.
Don’t worry, we knew that already…
Up to the company, End of the day if they trust the employee to do the work they should allow work from home.
Amount of time money and energ i save from working from home. Helps me stay focused in work.
If i was still in the office id of burned out years ago.
Do we not already have a “right to request” whatever the hell we like from employers?
And they have the right to say “bugger off”.
Big waste of Dail time and money to pass a pointless piece of legislation.
They suddenly realized that all of that office space in the City Centre is going to waste and that the shops and cafes around them have suffered.
I have a friend that works for indeed. They moved into the new very expensive offices on the quays around Covid. She tells me that whenever she does go into the office that it’s an absolute ghost town.
Personally I think it is a good thing to not have the economy centralized into one area. It boosts the economies in the suburbs and satellite towns.
Unless a job absolutely requires you to be on site I don’t see why anyone shouldn’t be allowed wfh, whether full time or 2/3 days a week. Personally I love working from home, saves 2 hour commute everyday, frees up a lot of time for me to get stuff outside of work done & overall less stress without management watching your every move.
So it’s working as intended? Anyone with a half brain could see where this was headed. Like many other things in Ireland, it was designed to create the _appearance_ that something is being done. The official motto of Ireland should be _”All hat, no cattle.”_
This did look a bit suspect at the time but I presumed it was just named poorly and that there would be a lot more detail in the law but it seems that’s not the case from the look of this article.
Also is there anything employees aren’t “allowed” request?
Before bringing in the legislation, a review was done on [comparable legislation across Europe and elsewhere](https://enterprise.gov.ie/en/publications/publication-files/right-to-request-remote-work-international-review.pdf).
Almost every one of the reviewed laws in Europe is the same as the one in Ireland.
– Employees have a right to request remote work
– Companies must have a policy and must follow that policy when making a decision
– Unless both the employer and employee agree, remote work is not a legal requirement
There are a couple of small exceptions to this, such as :
– Portugal, but only for serious domestic violence situations or a child under 3
– Finland, with their Working Time model from 2019, which has flexible working hours/location for up to 50% of hours worked
– Romania, with a right to 1 day a week remote work for people who work exclusively on a computer.
Every other country in Europe either doesn’t have a law or has a law almost identical to ours.
Ten thousand cases could go towards the WRC and every one will go in the employers favour. Even if one by accident goes to the employee, it just changes the answer from “No” to “No, for reasons we have copy/pasted from the WRC website.”
The law is genuinely harmful and should be abolished, it’s leading people to believe they have protections that don’t exist.
That first case is a joke. Why should that person have to wake crazy early and drive over 2.5 hours to the office 3 days a week when all her team are based in US and Canada? She is essentially driving in to not be sat with her team. It’s ridiculous.
The Irish political classes view the people as absolute tards.
You keep voting for these parties so do you expect any other result??
Strange, I explained my circumstances over a teams.call to my line manager. He said OK no problem. Can I just ask that you come.in occasionally just so you’re seen by higher management?
It’s been 6 months now and I’ve been into teh office 6 times, one of those was a strategy meeting with those senior managers where most everyone else was remote.
a lot of people who are critical of this law. But what exactly do people want as an alternative? Practically, how do they want an alternative WFH law to work?
You’d think a party like the Greens or Social Democrats would support better WFH legislation. Would be an easy vote winner
They work for big business, They’ll tax you like crazy for the environment but actually working from home would make a huge difference but those funds renting out offices need to retain or their increase their value so they lobby the governments across the world to get people back into the offices. The Green Party should be pushing for this!
Another waste of everyone’s time. Thanks FFG you really give a shit /s
Was the job performed by anyone fully remote during Covid?
Under the same circumstances would the employee be expected to switch to fully remote work again?
Is there an aspect of the work that can’t be done remotely, please explain in detail why?
I think something like this and the onus on the company to provide the details. My boss is a nightmare for the office is king mentality. He also avoids people and meetings as much as possible.
He literally wants ppl in the office to justify having the office. He’s told me as much. I manage a team of 15, so I attend the office twice a week because they all have to attend 3 times. Those 2 days I’m in I get literally nothing done bar chatting to people.
This shite from the government is their usual level of useless.