Housing targets at risk due to high dropout rates among apprentices, new survey warns
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/housing-targets-at-risk-due-to-high-dropout-rates-among-apprentices-new-survey-warns/a2009799143.html
Posted by That_Technician_439
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The construction industry is seriously toxic overall. Most of the lads working residential labourers, carpenters, snaggers etc are all working for agency’s that treat them like absokute shite. They have very little rights and are let go at the drop of a hat. There is absolutely no job security and your being pushed constantly to do more or else you will get the bullet.
Apprentice wages are absolute shite and loads of lads are working for morons who wont register them as apprentices and basically use them for a year or more and don’t bother with their training. Not getting paid or trained correctly, who could blame them for kicking off.
Not to mention construction is fucking hard work and you need to be tough to get on with it. It’s a dangerous environment where you can get hurt and there are a lot of rough Men on site who you need to be able to stand up to.
Many reasons for young lads to say fuck that.
Most of the stuff you need to know for a job you learn on the job.
After a year or two, these guys are skilled workers in their own right, apprentice or not.
Skilled work and not being able to earn enough to pay rent? No wonder they’re dropping out.
The building trades in Ireland arn’t very professionalised like Ozz and the Middle East. Can be a tough industry
It’s well past the time that the government set up their own building programme of training and employing construction workers.
But of course they don’t want that, they’d rather enrich their wealthy property developer and cuckoo fund friends.
You mean it isn’t at risk because of cowboy building companies, developers chasing every penny or completely horseshit government policies? It was these pesky apprentices all along!
Our comically low targets won’t be met? Colour me shocked
Imagine if they had the proper targets, it would look crazy how much we miss them every year:
“Ireland misses home building target by 30,000”
On top of points already made, you have to travel as well. currently travelling to Kildare so two hour spin on a Monday morning at half 4 to get to work for 7 to work a 7-7 Monday to Thursday then 7-2:30 Friday then drive home which you don’t reach until 4.30-5:30 depending on traffic. So your fucked on Friday, have a Saturday off and then in bed for 8 on a Sunday.
Your then living in a hotel for the week and have to live off chipper to keep costs down and fit foods. Not to mention the extra 4 hours travel your losing from going from site to hotel.
Then add in petrol costs for this 8 hours travel a week while you work a 50-60 hour week.
Its now the trainees fault!
Agencies will be the death of the construction industry here, how on earth is some young fella supposed to learn a trade if companies aren’t hiring people except only through agencies which only move fellas around from site to site? I know we aren’t good at long term planning in this country but Jesus Christ it’s a disaster waiting to happen, someone in government needs to do something about it ffs, but who am I kidding of course it will be completely ignored until it’s a crisis and the government minister will be saying oh holy shit why didn’t somebody tell me?? It’s pathetic.
Ya, blame the apprentices ffs. FFG are shameless arseholes
Thats because most employers are absolute scuts and solas arent training and qualifying them within 4 years and its taking 6 years
Started life as an electrician… apprenticeship when I was 18…. luckily qualified just before the 08 crash….
Ended up getting a degree in controls engineering and have been working in manufacturing ever since until recently where I am back on site doing controls for Data centres.
Things are definitely better than they were but to be honest sites are horrible places to work, noisey, smelly dangerous, environments even the in offices its crap, higher concentration of pricks and assholes than any other workplace and whats worse the bigger the prick the higher they go up in management.
That being said the money is pretty good in the datas centres sites, Id sat theres a lot of tradies making decent coin here with the overtime etc.
The next gen of youngings are too nice and soft for this environment (not that this is a bad thing generally) and it seems its a lot of foreigners on sites doing the physical work from what I can tell.
maybe when the dinosaurs on top start to retire we will see a change.