Hate crime legislation has always been a fucking joke and we should have never opened this Pandora’s box of restricting people’s ability to freely speak. The principle of criminally pursuing people for speaking their opinions is disgusting.
Longjumping_Stand889 on
It’s a difficult one to police, it could be someone pretending to be black just to use the word.
denyer-no1-fan on
> Black woman charged after using n-word _to refer to a Black footballer_ on social media.
She’s not charged for using the n-word, she’s charged for throwing racial abuse at a football player. It’s not the first time this has happened, it happened after [Euros 2020 too](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57848761).
Andrew1990M on
She tweeted;
“I’m so pissed off let me get my hands on that fukin n***a,”
About a black Newcastle United player. Didn’t @ him, but it is technically a threat. Difficult to say where the line is here, for me at least.
Just a fucking stupid thing to get upset about either way.
marquess_rostrevor on
>“Being from an ethnic minority background does not provide a defence to racially abusing someone.
I never actually thought about how that works if it’s the same ethnicity.
nosdivanion on
As she was due to appear in court on the 8th of August. What was the outcome of the ridiculous charge?
R.I.P freedom of speech
Critical_Honking420 on
Good, the colour of your skin does not exclude you from being racist or hateful.
MDF87 on
When you ask for equality but it’s not quite what you expected.
CorruptedFlame on
At the end of the day I’d rather the law be applied equally than not, so I don’t mind.
I’m so p***** off let me get my hands on that f**** n***a,” Ms Abdi, who lives in London, wrote.
—
“Being from an ethnic minority background does not provide a defence to racially abusing someone.”
Idk what to make of this
Homicidal_Pingu on
I mean either the word is bad and shouldn’t be used or it’s ok for anyone.
Thetwitchingvoid on
Absolutely fucking ludicrous.
The ‘N-word’ is NOT ‘Nigga’ or ‘Niggah.’
Those words are fairly new and are the equivalent of mate or brother or person.
So reading her tweet she’s saying she wants to get her hands on “this brother.”
But of course, when you just spookily say “the N-word” it conjures up all sorts of racist imagery.
Absolute shit show of a country and it’s slow creep into authoritarianism – which, as we’ve always said, will slowly begin targeting black and brown people.
ThereAndFapAgain2 on
Call me crazy but I don’t think we should be arresting people for words.
i-am-a-passenger on
Fair enough, from my experience the vast majority of British black people find that word to be incredibly offensive – even if this is less true in the US.
palewretch on
Generally I am against elevating a crime because it fits the terms of “hate” legislation.
When I worked for the NHS I could be threatened, verbally abused and spoken to like shit and absolutely nothing would be done. However the one time I got called a “f****t” by a patient, (despite being straight), the trust couldn’t wait to contact the police.
The constant abuse, and during the later stages of lockdown it was constant, did far worse damage to my mental health and wellbeing than the “hate crime” that was commited against me, and yet no one gave a fuck. Boxes need to be ticked and management need to duke the stats always.
The-Triturn on
Was she arrested for saying the n word or threatening violence?
Plumb789 on
An Afro-Caribbean boyfriend of mine was complaining about the Jeremy Clarkson controversy where the presenter did-or did not-sing the nursery rhyme “eenie meeny miny mo”, because he was very angry at how “disrespectful” the situation was.
Just out of interest (and not at all with any agenda one way or the other), I asked my boyfriend about his use of the “n” word (which was fairly frequent). He was wont to call friends “my “n””, as in “my “n” said this, and my “n” did that”.
My boyfriend just mentioned that it was okay for black people to use that word-but entirely wrong for a white person to do so. I liked the fact that he would just come out and say it-and not pussyfoot around it.
ZX52 on
>Charged after
Okay, but what was she charged *for* exactly?
chaosandturmoil on
well twitter definitely don’t gaf about people using the n-word. I’ve reported so many people and they come back with theyve done nothing wrong.
DeadlySilenc3 on
I don’t mean this to sound like a conspiracy, but this specific word will target black people to this law because non-racist white people have been conditioned for years, not to say it or write it. But as a community, black people use it through lots of different meanings.
I think it’s important that we don’t allow bullying, abuse, towards others with words, but laws have to acknowledge the subtlety of language.
Also, we must be careful not to allow the government to dictate what things mean to established cultural ideologies of a safe nature. For example, there’s nothing safe in the culture of the KKK
Howthehelldoido on
Good.
If people stop using the word.. Shock horror.. Something might happen?
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Hate crime legislation has always been a fucking joke and we should have never opened this Pandora’s box of restricting people’s ability to freely speak. The principle of criminally pursuing people for speaking their opinions is disgusting.
It’s a difficult one to police, it could be someone pretending to be black just to use the word.
> Black woman charged after using n-word _to refer to a Black footballer_ on social media.
She’s not charged for using the n-word, she’s charged for throwing racial abuse at a football player. It’s not the first time this has happened, it happened after [Euros 2020 too](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57848761).
She tweeted;
“I’m so pissed off let me get my hands on that fukin n***a,”
About a black Newcastle United player. Didn’t @ him, but it is technically a threat. Difficult to say where the line is here, for me at least.
Just a fucking stupid thing to get upset about either way.
>“Being from an ethnic minority background does not provide a defence to racially abusing someone.
I never actually thought about how that works if it’s the same ethnicity.
As she was due to appear in court on the 8th of August. What was the outcome of the ridiculous charge?
R.I.P freedom of speech
Good, the colour of your skin does not exclude you from being racist or hateful.
When you ask for equality but it’s not quite what you expected.
At the end of the day I’d rather the law be applied equally than not, so I don’t mind.
I have a question for all of the people who keep saying the US is free compared to the UK. But the US has similar laws i.e. https://whyy.org/articles/amys-pizzeria-hate-crime-charges-hatboro-woman/
PS I mean this respectfully and am not trying to be spicy
I’m so p***** off let me get my hands on that f**** n***a,” Ms Abdi, who lives in London, wrote.
—
“Being from an ethnic minority background does not provide a defence to racially abusing someone.”
Idk what to make of this
I mean either the word is bad and shouldn’t be used or it’s ok for anyone.
Absolutely fucking ludicrous.
The ‘N-word’ is NOT ‘Nigga’ or ‘Niggah.’
Those words are fairly new and are the equivalent of mate or brother or person.
So reading her tweet she’s saying she wants to get her hands on “this brother.”
But of course, when you just spookily say “the N-word” it conjures up all sorts of racist imagery.
Absolute shit show of a country and it’s slow creep into authoritarianism – which, as we’ve always said, will slowly begin targeting black and brown people.
Call me crazy but I don’t think we should be arresting people for words.
Fair enough, from my experience the vast majority of British black people find that word to be incredibly offensive – even if this is less true in the US.
Generally I am against elevating a crime because it fits the terms of “hate” legislation.
When I worked for the NHS I could be threatened, verbally abused and spoken to like shit and absolutely nothing would be done. However the one time I got called a “f****t” by a patient, (despite being straight), the trust couldn’t wait to contact the police.
The constant abuse, and during the later stages of lockdown it was constant, did far worse damage to my mental health and wellbeing than the “hate crime” that was commited against me, and yet no one gave a fuck. Boxes need to be ticked and management need to duke the stats always.
Was she arrested for saying the n word or threatening violence?
An Afro-Caribbean boyfriend of mine was complaining about the Jeremy Clarkson controversy where the presenter did-or did not-sing the nursery rhyme “eenie meeny miny mo”, because he was very angry at how “disrespectful” the situation was.
Just out of interest (and not at all with any agenda one way or the other), I asked my boyfriend about his use of the “n” word (which was fairly frequent). He was wont to call friends “my “n””, as in “my “n” said this, and my “n” did that”.
My boyfriend just mentioned that it was okay for black people to use that word-but entirely wrong for a white person to do so. I liked the fact that he would just come out and say it-and not pussyfoot around it.
>Charged after
Okay, but what was she charged *for* exactly?
well twitter definitely don’t gaf about people using the n-word. I’ve reported so many people and they come back with theyve done nothing wrong.
I don’t mean this to sound like a conspiracy, but this specific word will target black people to this law because non-racist white people have been conditioned for years, not to say it or write it. But as a community, black people use it through lots of different meanings.
I think it’s important that we don’t allow bullying, abuse, towards others with words, but laws have to acknowledge the subtlety of language.
Also, we must be careful not to allow the government to dictate what things mean to established cultural ideologies of a safe nature. For example, there’s nothing safe in the culture of the KKK
Good.
If people stop using the word.. Shock horror.. Something might happen?