“The garda commissioner has increased the threat level posed by violent political extremists from moderate to substantial, meaning that an attack is likely…”
No Irish media is reporting this, I would of thought this would be pretty big news, is there legal issues on reporting on confidential information?
TheStoicNihilist on
If we gave them all real dolls we could defuse the situation.
TobyEsterhasse on
Risk of arrest for right-wing extremists in Ireland is “miniscule”.
TomatoJuice303 on
So, what are they going to do about it?
Guinnish_Mor on
We need 2 counters. Days since the last attack. 1 for the far right and another for foreigners.
That way the threat from the far right will be clear to all
cjamcmahon1 on
‘We’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas’
Left_Process7590 on
This is headlines in today’s papers yet Irish Times yesterday journo lally 5.Times he mentions the far right in relation to the attack on the padre in Galway. And the young guy isn’t far right
Gold-Instance1913 on
How about the risk of left wing extremists?
Entire_Rub3055 on
Haha it’s laughable the trajectory this country is on. What’s our long term plan? “We’re not going to end up like France, Germany, the UK etc because we’re great craic”. Ireland is about to get a serious dose of reality in the next 20 years. It takes hundreds of years to build a cohesive society and just a few to ruin it forever. The Champlain stabbed, Sligo beheadings, school stabbings. You ain’t seen nothing yet baby.
EmeraldDank on
Talk about stating the obvious 🤣🤣🤣. We’ve seen this coming for years with main isis commanders etc set up here waaayyy before cocid times even.
We even got told soldiers would be flooded into all eu countries and when enough got in a war would break out, with simultaneous attacks across Europe at the same time.
This is old News
Bill_Badbody on
Well when you ignore at a minimum, and aid them at some points for over a decade, that’s what happens.
Masterchief_Koala98 on
What we need to do is strengthen the Terroism Act of 2005 to include acts of political extremism, also sentences need to be changed from a mandatory ten year sentence to a minimum of a capital sentence ( life in prison without parole) see how quickly then these so called “patriots” are willing to commit crimes then. We also need to start holding social media platforms accountable for their inaction against the spread of misinformation and disinformation. Also I believe that these so called “patriots” need to be made an example of and have them held accountable.
I can guarantee you one thing once you take out the ring leaders of their little farce they’ll fall apart back into obscurity. I make the analogy that they are a raging fire that needs three things to burn.
1. Social Media – the fuel
2. The Audience – the oxygen
3 their so called demonstrations – the heat
Remove anyone of those three elements and their fire triangle falls, personally I’d have everyone one of them arrested and charged with a domestic terrorism offence and watch how quickly they’d fall.
But I can tell you one thing about these boyos their money is coming from Russia, it’s Russias current interests to sow insecurity and instability in the west over the Ukraine conflict so if you take on the foot soldier, you must be willing to take on the Gangster as well.
BazingaQQ on
Take the British route – round them up, put them on trial and jail them for 2-3 years. And fasttrack it so that the process gets done as fast as possible, or deny them bail until their trial comes up.
If it can be done with Islamist terrorists, it can be done with right-wing terrorists too.
DuncanGabble on
Centrists: Yes these are the same as the far left
AlarmingReporter3732 on
Would this be because everyone and anyone in disagreement with the government is branded right-wing.
Growing dissent = growing far-right.
Maybe the government could change their policies and actually work FOR the people…..no no no that’s ludicrous!!!
MakingBigBank on
Sure there’s gangs of teenagers in our capitol city that rove around on stolen motorbikes. They steal motorcycles and push bikes at will and sell them. Attack tourists and intimidate people. I’ve seen them pop wheelies up footpaths and over traffic islands with families around just walking down the street. If there’s a sniff of a bit of unrest they will come into town and riot loot shops and burn anything they can including Garda cars, busses and the luas. Their answer is ah sure we can’t do anything about it we can’t even chase them?
Drew Harris and the lads can actually fuck right off talking about the far right . Let’s get one thing straight here, they haven’t a clue about the far right or a whole lot else frankly. They can’t even do the basics. I know they are up against it with the justice system and people being able to rack up cricket scores of convictions without spending any real amount of time in jail. But that’s the crux of whole problem. It’s generally a small minority of individuals involved in any of this stuff. If they can sort out that basic stuff in collaboration improvements will follow. Until then there’s actually not a whole lot of point in talking about it?
Accomplished_Ad6278 on
What’s the worst that someone that the media has labelled as far right gonna do? Burn some vacant buildings? The Irish are not the type that will go on a stabbing spree. Bomb or gun attack? I really fuckin doubt it.
Holiday_Toe5779 on
Has there been a threat assessment for Islamic extremists? As a global and now European issue and with an increasing population it seems strange if this has not been carried out and similarly published.
Xeamus4Toes on
Meanwhile another 500 million added to children’s hospital bill.
But by any means, keep fighting among each other while the real elite is sucking the life out of the land.
HappyFlounder3957 on
How much if this is far right, and how much of this is a segment of society that has been entirely left behind. Generation and generation of folks with no access to work, education or prospects.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m no bleeding heart, ‘oh think of the poor kids’, every one makes a choice, but that doesn’t mean I’m blind to the fact that successive FG/FF governments have basically given up on entire tracts of the population.
It seems to me that it is very convenient for people in power to suddenly blame the far right for everything.
Even if you do believe there is a massive far right machine manufacturing all this unrest, the burden still lies on the governments of Ireland for leaving the field open to that far right machine.
I’d love to see a plan from Simon Harris that wasn’t just ‘lock em up’, because believe me, that won’t solve a thing.
DannyVandal on
Oh marvellous. Just what we need. Being attacked by a flock of raging bed-wetters. Where’s Brian McFadden when we need him.
> The movement’s ability to […] issue death threats on social media, _often using their own names_, is likely to ensure it remains a serious challenge to policing […]
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End the hands off policy.
“The garda commissioner has increased the threat level posed by violent political extremists from moderate to substantial, meaning that an attack is likely…”
No Irish media is reporting this, I would of thought this would be pretty big news, is there legal issues on reporting on confidential information?
If we gave them all real dolls we could defuse the situation.
Risk of arrest for right-wing extremists in Ireland is “miniscule”.
So, what are they going to do about it?
We need 2 counters. Days since the last attack. 1 for the far right and another for foreigners.
That way the threat from the far right will be clear to all
‘We’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas’
This is headlines in today’s papers yet Irish Times yesterday journo lally 5.Times he mentions the far right in relation to the attack on the padre in Galway. And the young guy isn’t far right
How about the risk of left wing extremists?
Haha it’s laughable the trajectory this country is on. What’s our long term plan? “We’re not going to end up like France, Germany, the UK etc because we’re great craic”. Ireland is about to get a serious dose of reality in the next 20 years. It takes hundreds of years to build a cohesive society and just a few to ruin it forever. The Champlain stabbed, Sligo beheadings, school stabbings. You ain’t seen nothing yet baby.
Talk about stating the obvious 🤣🤣🤣. We’ve seen this coming for years with main isis commanders etc set up here waaayyy before cocid times even.
We even got told soldiers would be flooded into all eu countries and when enough got in a war would break out, with simultaneous attacks across Europe at the same time.
This is old News
Well when you ignore at a minimum, and aid them at some points for over a decade, that’s what happens.
What we need to do is strengthen the Terroism Act of 2005 to include acts of political extremism, also sentences need to be changed from a mandatory ten year sentence to a minimum of a capital sentence ( life in prison without parole) see how quickly then these so called “patriots” are willing to commit crimes then. We also need to start holding social media platforms accountable for their inaction against the spread of misinformation and disinformation. Also I believe that these so called “patriots” need to be made an example of and have them held accountable.
I can guarantee you one thing once you take out the ring leaders of their little farce they’ll fall apart back into obscurity. I make the analogy that they are a raging fire that needs three things to burn.
1. Social Media – the fuel
2. The Audience – the oxygen
3 their so called demonstrations – the heat
Remove anyone of those three elements and their fire triangle falls, personally I’d have everyone one of them arrested and charged with a domestic terrorism offence and watch how quickly they’d fall.
But I can tell you one thing about these boyos their money is coming from Russia, it’s Russias current interests to sow insecurity and instability in the west over the Ukraine conflict so if you take on the foot soldier, you must be willing to take on the Gangster as well.
Take the British route – round them up, put them on trial and jail them for 2-3 years. And fasttrack it so that the process gets done as fast as possible, or deny them bail until their trial comes up.
If it can be done with Islamist terrorists, it can be done with right-wing terrorists too.
Centrists: Yes these are the same as the far left
Would this be because everyone and anyone in disagreement with the government is branded right-wing.
Growing dissent = growing far-right.
Maybe the government could change their policies and actually work FOR the people…..no no no that’s ludicrous!!!
Sure there’s gangs of teenagers in our capitol city that rove around on stolen motorbikes. They steal motorcycles and push bikes at will and sell them. Attack tourists and intimidate people. I’ve seen them pop wheelies up footpaths and over traffic islands with families around just walking down the street. If there’s a sniff of a bit of unrest they will come into town and riot loot shops and burn anything they can including Garda cars, busses and the luas. Their answer is ah sure we can’t do anything about it we can’t even chase them?
Drew Harris and the lads can actually fuck right off talking about the far right . Let’s get one thing straight here, they haven’t a clue about the far right or a whole lot else frankly. They can’t even do the basics. I know they are up against it with the justice system and people being able to rack up cricket scores of convictions without spending any real amount of time in jail. But that’s the crux of whole problem. It’s generally a small minority of individuals involved in any of this stuff. If they can sort out that basic stuff in collaboration improvements will follow. Until then there’s actually not a whole lot of point in talking about it?
What’s the worst that someone that the media has labelled as far right gonna do? Burn some vacant buildings? The Irish are not the type that will go on a stabbing spree. Bomb or gun attack? I really fuckin doubt it.
Has there been a threat assessment for Islamic extremists? As a global and now European issue and with an increasing population it seems strange if this has not been carried out and similarly published.
Meanwhile another 500 million added to children’s hospital bill.
But by any means, keep fighting among each other while the real elite is sucking the life out of the land.
How much if this is far right, and how much of this is a segment of society that has been entirely left behind. Generation and generation of folks with no access to work, education or prospects.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m no bleeding heart, ‘oh think of the poor kids’, every one makes a choice, but that doesn’t mean I’m blind to the fact that successive FG/FF governments have basically given up on entire tracts of the population.
It seems to me that it is very convenient for people in power to suddenly blame the far right for everything.
Even if you do believe there is a massive far right machine manufacturing all this unrest, the burden still lies on the governments of Ireland for leaving the field open to that far right machine.
I’d love to see a plan from Simon Harris that wasn’t just ‘lock em up’, because believe me, that won’t solve a thing.
Oh marvellous. Just what we need. Being attacked by a flock of raging bed-wetters. Where’s Brian McFadden when we need him.
“Confrontation, which in effect plays into their hands, is a trap that we’re not going into.”
[Garda Commissioner Drew Harris](https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/commissioner-says-gardai-will-not-fall-into-trap-of-far-right-protesters-1479068.html)
May 2023
> The movement’s ability to […] issue death threats on social media, _often using their own names_, is likely to ensure it remains a serious challenge to policing […]
lol