The whole NHS needs to be reworked and redone. At this point it’s not about money, although that will always be part of it, it’s now rotten to the core and needs to be gutted and reworked
sober_disposition on
Whether it harms patients or not, this is GREAT news for private GP services.Â
And the more of us that become reliant on private GP appointments, the easier it will be for this part of the NHS to be fully privatised.Â
Great!Â
Mammoth-Ad-562 on
You know what doesn’t affect this at all don’t you? Immigration.
Let’s have a look at some other possible explanations for this healthcare crisis: Russian bots, the far right, hurt feelings, Israel, the Tory’s, Andrew Tate, hate speech, Margaret Thatchers foreign policy in the 70’s, Boris Johnson, trans rights, Polands immigration policy, Donald Trump.
It cannot in any way be anything to do with immigration, and if you do make that claim then you are a Nazi and should be jailed for even writing it here.
Clearly the Tories managed to completely ignore the problem for those 6 years. Let’s hope Wes and Labour can come up with some kind of plan. Neither GPs nor patients seem particularly happy with the way the government is running things.
Ramiren on
While I agree with most of the article, I’d just like to point out that them complaining about having to draw bloods for hospitals is a 110% horseshit thing to complain about in context.
They do have to draw some bloods for hospitals, meanwhile hospital labs handle ALL of their blood tests, deal with all the transport for said tests, and handle all the reporting, urgent results callouts and even handle their urgent patients after the surgeries have closed, usually from around 8pm til 9am on weekdays, and all weekend.
Their argument is with the government, GP’s do NOT want to throw shade at the hospitals, we do a huge amount of work for them, if I were to estimate around 3/4ths of my workload in the lab is GP work, the rest is for the hosptial.
Rowcoy on
Only in the UK could GPs be criticised for not going on strike but instead opting to stop doing unpaid overtime.
no_turkey_jeremy on
Fewer patients per day means better quality safer care. It’s ludicrous the numbers of patients that GPs are expected to see per day currently, hence the high rate of burnout. The current 10 minute appointments are barely enough time to get some patients into the room, let alone pick apart complex issues.
Scumbaggio1845 on
Have they tried actually attempting to provide some sort of treatment for the issues patients present with?
MyInkyFingers on
Let’s get a few things straight .
– Your Gp is not the NHS, they are an independent provider contracted to the NHS
– This cap isn’t saying screw it , it’s not a strike , it’s literally doing no more than what they are contracted to do and to be able to do it safely.
– practices have been undertaking a great deal of free work , it’s unsustainable , it includes work that would have previously been the mandate of the hospital , but has now fallen to them.
E: there are a number of conditions they are seeing, or certain diagnostics which should be the remit of their services , it may involve particular respiratory conditions or specialist mental health input or prescribing /review . It may even be something like a condition I’ve suffered from all my life like ADHD, they aren’t funded to manage it and the condition isn’t funded enough to bring down multi year waiting lists which exist not just for children but adults as well
– costs have increased in the last 6 or more years , funding hasn’t met the demand .
– hospitals don’t get closed down because of running costs , but quite occasionally GP partners are faced with needing to shut their practice , or merge , in either direction it increases demand .
– if your practice is in an area with alot of deprivation, there will be more chronic illness , more patient contacts , and more health anxiety , which again leads to more health contacts , the funding received doesn’t differ much from an affluent practise . It’s not sustainable when it comes to funding.
– Before someone wants to come at me thinking I’m blaming hospitals , I’m not, this is an issue created by successive governments in one manner or another .
People find it easy to moan about their GP practice , but they’ll be more unhappy when their practice disappears . The attitudes here are the sorts of reasons why student doctors aren’t particularly enticed to become GP’s.
If you care about your GP practice , get involved with its patient participation group, understand the issues that actually impact it rather than hearsay, and become part of the solution .
DrWiseOldManMD on
Media getting upset by GPs wanting to see a safe number of patients a day rather than 40+ patients a day in 10 minutes that is not even the slightest amount of time required to tackle a comorbid patient with complex issues and leads to things being missed/not addressed properly.
UK media really is abysmal and never fails to present such a shallow coverage of issues.
Nick triggle journalism always seems to be exceptionally poor. How can the main BBC health correspondent consistently fail to understand the issues with such consistency and present such poor waffley articles with zero substance.
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The whole NHS needs to be reworked and redone. At this point it’s not about money, although that will always be part of it, it’s now rotten to the core and needs to be gutted and reworked
Whether it harms patients or not, this is GREAT news for private GP services.Â
And the more of us that become reliant on private GP appointments, the easier it will be for this part of the NHS to be fully privatised.Â
Great!Â
You know what doesn’t affect this at all don’t you? Immigration.
Let’s have a look at some other possible explanations for this healthcare crisis: Russian bots, the far right, hurt feelings, Israel, the Tory’s, Andrew Tate, hate speech, Margaret Thatchers foreign policy in the 70’s, Boris Johnson, trans rights, Polands immigration policy, Donald Trump.
It cannot in any way be anything to do with immigration, and if you do make that claim then you are a Nazi and should be jailed for even writing it here.
/s
It doesn’t feel as though things have changed since 6 years ago when GPs [were also at breaking point](https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/health/gps-warn-breaking-point-see-12800216). Well, perhaps the only change is that they’ve now got more patients to deal with.
Clearly the Tories managed to completely ignore the problem for those 6 years. Let’s hope Wes and Labour can come up with some kind of plan. Neither GPs nor patients seem particularly happy with the way the government is running things.
While I agree with most of the article, I’d just like to point out that them complaining about having to draw bloods for hospitals is a 110% horseshit thing to complain about in context.
They do have to draw some bloods for hospitals, meanwhile hospital labs handle ALL of their blood tests, deal with all the transport for said tests, and handle all the reporting, urgent results callouts and even handle their urgent patients after the surgeries have closed, usually from around 8pm til 9am on weekdays, and all weekend.
Their argument is with the government, GP’s do NOT want to throw shade at the hospitals, we do a huge amount of work for them, if I were to estimate around 3/4ths of my workload in the lab is GP work, the rest is for the hosptial.
Only in the UK could GPs be criticised for not going on strike but instead opting to stop doing unpaid overtime.
Fewer patients per day means better quality safer care. It’s ludicrous the numbers of patients that GPs are expected to see per day currently, hence the high rate of burnout. The current 10 minute appointments are barely enough time to get some patients into the room, let alone pick apart complex issues.
Have they tried actually attempting to provide some sort of treatment for the issues patients present with?
Let’s get a few things straight .
– Your Gp is not the NHS, they are an independent provider contracted to the NHS
– This cap isn’t saying screw it , it’s not a strike , it’s literally doing no more than what they are contracted to do and to be able to do it safely.
– practices have been undertaking a great deal of free work , it’s unsustainable , it includes work that would have previously been the mandate of the hospital , but has now fallen to them.
E: there are a number of conditions they are seeing, or certain diagnostics which should be the remit of their services , it may involve particular respiratory conditions or specialist mental health input or prescribing /review . It may even be something like a condition I’ve suffered from all my life like ADHD, they aren’t funded to manage it and the condition isn’t funded enough to bring down multi year waiting lists which exist not just for children but adults as well
– costs have increased in the last 6 or more years , funding hasn’t met the demand .
– hospitals don’t get closed down because of running costs , but quite occasionally GP partners are faced with needing to shut their practice , or merge , in either direction it increases demand .
– if your practice is in an area with alot of deprivation, there will be more chronic illness , more patient contacts , and more health anxiety , which again leads to more health contacts , the funding received doesn’t differ much from an affluent practise . It’s not sustainable when it comes to funding.
– Before someone wants to come at me thinking I’m blaming hospitals , I’m not, this is an issue created by successive governments in one manner or another .
People find it easy to moan about their GP practice , but they’ll be more unhappy when their practice disappears . The attitudes here are the sorts of reasons why student doctors aren’t particularly enticed to become GP’s.
If you care about your GP practice , get involved with its patient participation group, understand the issues that actually impact it rather than hearsay, and become part of the solution .
Media getting upset by GPs wanting to see a safe number of patients a day rather than 40+ patients a day in 10 minutes that is not even the slightest amount of time required to tackle a comorbid patient with complex issues and leads to things being missed/not addressed properly.
UK media really is abysmal and never fails to present such a shallow coverage of issues.
Nick triggle journalism always seems to be exceptionally poor. How can the main BBC health correspondent consistently fail to understand the issues with such consistency and present such poor waffley articles with zero substance.