Trump and Vance already feel like they belong to another, long gone era. Most people, sane people, are just so tired of all the rage and moronic, 14 year old boy pseudo-intellectual bullshit from the alt right. Trump and Vance feel like anachronisms. Most of us are ready to move on.
ChowMeinWayne on
And very weird.
feral-pug on
It’s hard to have a substantive discussion and debate about policy when the opposing party is doing its damnedest to downplay it’s deeply unpopular, unsettling platform. Almost impossible to take them seriously or respect them at all when their strategy is to remain as opaque as possible and then panic when people find out what they really stand for and reject it.
You’d think, perhaps, more earnest people would rotate away from the ridiculous right wing extremist positions Trump/Vance are running on… But they deeply believe in it… And just don’t want you to know until they’re in office. Shit stains.
milton911 on
And yet they could still win.
No one should be complacent about this. Harris has certainly made up a lot of lost ground, but, right now, it remains unclear whether it is quite enough to see her triumph in the electoral college.
AlfredRWallace on
Plus JD comes across as Weird AF.
Lopsided_Newt_5798 on
The I just shit my pants face is priceless.
LeatherFruitPF on
They either have no plan, or their plan is unpopular.
Their agenda is Project 2025 which they know it’s unpopular. Their campaign against Biden was simply to attack his age to distract the public.
Now that Biden is no longer in the picture, their strategy has fallen apart and is exposing their unpopular policies, and they continue to dodge any question regarding the nuances of what they plan to get done.
BitingArtist on
That is how democracy works.
donkeybrisket on
Also why they get so upset at being called “weird”, because the popular kids NEVER get called weird, and they’re used to thinking of themselves as popular, or at the very least, as famous. soon they gonna be infamous for losing in the biggest landslide in American history. Fuck the GOP; Vote Harris
P1zzaM4n91 on
Weirdos
elijuicyjones on
We’re not going back.
definitivescribbles on
Turns out, the vast majority of Americans don’t like having their freedoms and hard earned benefits (that they pay for through taxes) stripped away.
Your backwards ass agendas and schemes to make billionaires richer are fucking trash.
citizenjones on
The Republican Party is fully vested in the latter part of the ‘Is it me?….’ meme. Its *the people* who are wrong.
Kazyole on
Turns out being terrible people promising to do terrible things isn’t a great political strategy. Weird.
IsGoingTTaM on
Weird, unAmerican, and will do nothing for the American people and especially their voters.
Majestic_Gazelle on
What is their actual agenda? I don’t really mean it disingenuously. But a lot of it is “libs bad” and “these things are bad elect me I will fix it” . It’s been confusing one of Kamala’s “weaknesses” was that people didn’t know her policy’s.
Trump has been campaigning for 3 years and I just know he hates Biden and thinks Kamala has a low iq.
autotldr on
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://newrepublic.com/article/184978/brutal-new-poll-jd-vance-reveals-big-trump-maga-weakness) reduced by 92%. (I’m a bot)
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> It's often said that Trump chose Vance to maximize the ticket's appeal to non-college white voters, but doing so may come at a steep price with other voter groups among whom Trump must improve if he wants to win.
> While 42 percent of Americans view Vance unfavorably and 32 percent view him favorably-putting him 10 points underwater-Walz is viewed favorably by 39 percent to 30 percent.
> He is viewed favorably by only 33 percent of college-educated whites, versus a striking 55 percent unfavorably.
They have neither a good agenda nor good personalities and endless whining and gloom. So why exactly are they still polling at like 46%? God, get it together US!
Silly-Scene6524 on
Their platform is so unpopular they don’t talk about it and instead just promote fear, anger, and victimhood based on lies.
hipdunk on
I tried talking to some of them and won’t try anymore. They all say the same thing. That Project 2025 has nothing to do with Trump. I alway replied, oh really, then why was it never mentioned during your convention unless you guys are trying to keep it a secret? We need to move forward not backward!
rbourbon on
They know this and don’t care. That’s why their campaign doesn’t focus on policy and instead is driven by hate and division.
No_nukes_at_all on
It’s funny that the GOP were so isolated in their bubble that they thought they could run with Project 2025 as policy and people would be just like “ yeah sounds good!👍 “
But now when they are distancing themselves from it because it’s deeply unpopular, as it should be , they are left with no policy. They got literally nothing.
Immediate-Wait9234 on
Unpopular because he’s weird.
Due_Battle_1413 on
No matter how they lie about association with the project 2025 agenda most can see thru it.
looking4astronauts on
If people voted on policy rather than Rs and Ds this country would be borderline socialist.
AaronBasedGodgers on
Deep down they know (or at least those that aren’t Trump) knows how unpopular MAGA is. But they don’t care if they can game the system.
RealNateFrog on
Their only “agenda” is to declare Trump king.
JPQwik on
Religious fundamentalism and the mixing of church and state is unpopular in the US?
Huh…strange. Weird even…
Cloaked42m on
Ya think?
trisul-108 on
> It’s often said that Trump chose Vance to maximize the ticket’s appeal to non-college white voters
Come on people, get real. With Trump it’s always about money and nothing but money. He chose Vance because he thought that brought him Musk and Thiel’s Tech Bros … which means billions for Trump. Vance was their candidate, his only role was to deliver cash while Trump was meant to deliver victory.
Ornery_1004 on
You misspelled “crazy”…
sentientcave on
Guess they’ll need to lie more.
we_are_sex_bobomb on
They are specifically campaigning on **not being the populist platform** which… really makes me think they don’t understand how democracy works.
naotoca on
They don’t have an agenda. They have Trump. That’s all the party cares about, that’s all the voters care about. Trump will implement an agenda (like Project 2025) if someone pays him for it and convinces him people will be hurt by it, sure. At the end of the day though, it’s every bit the cult people say it is. It’s a church with a living god at its center. We’ve never seen a political party act like this about one man.
ClubSoda on
MAGA are totally insane over their worship of the convicted felon. I don’t know how our nation will recover if they let him seize the WH again.
ArtDSellers on
Wow… people are turned off the by a dystopian nightmare policy platform. Ya don’t say.
blackmobius on
The primary policy of theirs is wildly unpopular, and the personal attacks they keep trying just arent sticking. They cant actually try to modify their stances because the core of their base (and all the maga politicians) are fully on board with it. And they cant swap out dump because thats an admission of failure and weakness. You built a cult around a single man, if he goes you risk losing it all.
The entire party is weakness, and they are locked in for whatever train wreck is coming their way. Should have let him get impeached and sit in jail, losers
LikeWisedUp on
But let’s not forget, they’re also horrible people too.
GonzoVeritas on
Based on the leaked Project 2025 videos, both the hidden-camera interview, and the training videos, their agenda isn’t just unpopular, it is TERRIFYING.
They sit in the interview calmly explaining that they will unleash the US Military on US citizens to put down any protests of their takeover and dismantling of the government. They plan on implementing a “radical Christian Nationalist agenda.” This isn’t hyperbole, [anyone can watch it](https://youtu.be/PY_chqyaRHo?si=T9FS2jTWv2yqT2v3), and if you haven’t, I recommend you do.
Why aren’t those interviews aren’t on every news station 24×7? They certainly deserve more attention.
That’s not a “weakness”. Your agenda isn’t a means to the ends of winning the election. Winning the election is the means to the ends of your agenda. If their agenda is what’s stopping them from winning they shouldn’t win.
weesIo on
This is the reason they are so quick to embrace authoritarianism.
AKA “The majority of people don’t support our agenda? Well we will just force them to.”
Mediocre_A_Tuin on
You have to be so goddamn stupid to fuck up being a conservative.
Literally half the country will vote conservative against their interests, and everyone else’s, and all conservatives have to do is not be so blatant about how harmful their policies are in order to have a good shot at winning.
silverdilf217 on
Yet just over a month ago, they weren’t so unpopular that millions of folks were just going to sit this election out…because their other option was old.
Vote like your life depends on it
padizzledonk on
>They’re unpopular because their agenda is unpopular.
Yup.
Its why the GOP always turns to batshit crazy stuff, fear and anger, they have very little else that’s popular with a broad swath of the public, it’s why the GOP loves voter suppression so much, it’s a lot easier for them to win when they suppress turnout by making it difficult to vote
This is what you get by being “The Party of NO” and “The Party of Burn it all Down” for the last 16y
They also kind of *CANT* have popular well liked policies because their constituent voter pool is so dysfunctional and wants VERY different things that are at times mutually exclusive….You simply can not be the party of the Workung Class and Labor and also the Oligarchy, you can’t be the party of Religious Freaks and also Social Moderate Republicans and Independents, you can’t appeal to minorities because it pisses off the racists
It’s why their policies fucking suck, any time they move to appeal to one block it pisses off some other block and the GOP is so unpopular that they can’t afford to lose any of these people as voters…..
So they try to thread this needle with “Do nothing string” and keep their voters angry and scared so they vote for them. And when they do that they sound bizzare, they have to give answers like “sorry my wife isn’t white but shes a good mom” …. or how “Pregnancy bourne of rape or incest is inconvenient” for their abortion agenda
I don’t think its going to hold together much longer tbh, ive been waiting patiently for 20y for the GOP to totally implode and I think it’s getting really close
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Trump and Vance already feel like they belong to another, long gone era. Most people, sane people, are just so tired of all the rage and moronic, 14 year old boy pseudo-intellectual bullshit from the alt right. Trump and Vance feel like anachronisms. Most of us are ready to move on.
And very weird.
It’s hard to have a substantive discussion and debate about policy when the opposing party is doing its damnedest to downplay it’s deeply unpopular, unsettling platform. Almost impossible to take them seriously or respect them at all when their strategy is to remain as opaque as possible and then panic when people find out what they really stand for and reject it.
You’d think, perhaps, more earnest people would rotate away from the ridiculous right wing extremist positions Trump/Vance are running on… But they deeply believe in it… And just don’t want you to know until they’re in office. Shit stains.
And yet they could still win.
No one should be complacent about this. Harris has certainly made up a lot of lost ground, but, right now, it remains unclear whether it is quite enough to see her triumph in the electoral college.
Plus JD comes across as Weird AF.
The I just shit my pants face is priceless.
They either have no plan, or their plan is unpopular.
Their agenda is Project 2025 which they know it’s unpopular. Their campaign against Biden was simply to attack his age to distract the public.
Now that Biden is no longer in the picture, their strategy has fallen apart and is exposing their unpopular policies, and they continue to dodge any question regarding the nuances of what they plan to get done.
That is how democracy works.
Also why they get so upset at being called “weird”, because the popular kids NEVER get called weird, and they’re used to thinking of themselves as popular, or at the very least, as famous. soon they gonna be infamous for losing in the biggest landslide in American history. Fuck the GOP; Vote Harris
Weirdos
We’re not going back.
Turns out, the vast majority of Americans don’t like having their freedoms and hard earned benefits (that they pay for through taxes) stripped away.
Your backwards ass agendas and schemes to make billionaires richer are fucking trash.
The Republican Party is fully vested in the latter part of the ‘Is it me?….’ meme. Its *the people* who are wrong.
Turns out being terrible people promising to do terrible things isn’t a great political strategy. Weird.
Weird, unAmerican, and will do nothing for the American people and especially their voters.
What is their actual agenda? I don’t really mean it disingenuously. But a lot of it is “libs bad” and “these things are bad elect me I will fix it” . It’s been confusing one of Kamala’s “weaknesses” was that people didn’t know her policy’s.
Trump has been campaigning for 3 years and I just know he hates Biden and thinks Kamala has a low iq.
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://newrepublic.com/article/184978/brutal-new-poll-jd-vance-reveals-big-trump-maga-weakness) reduced by 92%. (I’m a bot)
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> It's often said that Trump chose Vance to maximize the ticket's appeal to non-college white voters, but doing so may come at a steep price with other voter groups among whom Trump must improve if he wants to win.
> While 42 percent of Americans view Vance unfavorably and 32 percent view him favorably-putting him 10 points underwater-Walz is viewed favorably by 39 percent to 30 percent.
> He is viewed favorably by only 33 percent of college-educated whites, versus a striking 55 percent unfavorably.
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That’s a really bunchable face. 🖕
And weird
They have neither a good agenda nor good personalities and endless whining and gloom. So why exactly are they still polling at like 46%? God, get it together US!
Their platform is so unpopular they don’t talk about it and instead just promote fear, anger, and victimhood based on lies.
I tried talking to some of them and won’t try anymore. They all say the same thing. That Project 2025 has nothing to do with Trump. I alway replied, oh really, then why was it never mentioned during your convention unless you guys are trying to keep it a secret? We need to move forward not backward!
They know this and don’t care. That’s why their campaign doesn’t focus on policy and instead is driven by hate and division.
It’s funny that the GOP were so isolated in their bubble that they thought they could run with Project 2025 as policy and people would be just like “ yeah sounds good!👍 “
But now when they are distancing themselves from it because it’s deeply unpopular, as it should be , they are left with no policy. They got literally nothing.
Unpopular because he’s weird.
No matter how they lie about association with the project 2025 agenda most can see thru it.
If people voted on policy rather than Rs and Ds this country would be borderline socialist.
Deep down they know (or at least those that aren’t Trump) knows how unpopular MAGA is. But they don’t care if they can game the system.
Their only “agenda” is to declare Trump king.
Religious fundamentalism and the mixing of church and state is unpopular in the US?
Huh…strange. Weird even…
Ya think?
> It’s often said that Trump chose Vance to maximize the ticket’s appeal to non-college white voters
Come on people, get real. With Trump it’s always about money and nothing but money. He chose Vance because he thought that brought him Musk and Thiel’s Tech Bros … which means billions for Trump. Vance was their candidate, his only role was to deliver cash while Trump was meant to deliver victory.
You misspelled “crazy”…
Guess they’ll need to lie more.
They are specifically campaigning on **not being the populist platform** which… really makes me think they don’t understand how democracy works.
They don’t have an agenda. They have Trump. That’s all the party cares about, that’s all the voters care about. Trump will implement an agenda (like Project 2025) if someone pays him for it and convinces him people will be hurt by it, sure. At the end of the day though, it’s every bit the cult people say it is. It’s a church with a living god at its center. We’ve never seen a political party act like this about one man.
MAGA are totally insane over their worship of the convicted felon. I don’t know how our nation will recover if they let him seize the WH again.
Wow… people are turned off the by a dystopian nightmare policy platform. Ya don’t say.
The primary policy of theirs is wildly unpopular, and the personal attacks they keep trying just arent sticking. They cant actually try to modify their stances because the core of their base (and all the maga politicians) are fully on board with it. And they cant swap out dump because thats an admission of failure and weakness. You built a cult around a single man, if he goes you risk losing it all.
The entire party is weakness, and they are locked in for whatever train wreck is coming their way. Should have let him get impeached and sit in jail, losers
But let’s not forget, they’re also horrible people too.
Based on the leaked Project 2025 videos, both the hidden-camera interview, and the training videos, their agenda isn’t just unpopular, it is TERRIFYING.
They sit in the interview calmly explaining that they will unleash the US Military on US citizens to put down any protests of their takeover and dismantling of the government. They plan on implementing a “radical Christian Nationalist agenda.” This isn’t hyperbole, [anyone can watch it](https://youtu.be/PY_chqyaRHo?si=T9FS2jTWv2yqT2v3), and if you haven’t, I recommend you do.
Why aren’t those interviews aren’t on every news station 24×7? They certainly deserve more attention.
edit: More info – [Interview Reporting](https://climate-reporting.org/undercover-in-project-2025/)
That’s not a “weakness”. Your agenda isn’t a means to the ends of winning the election. Winning the election is the means to the ends of your agenda. If their agenda is what’s stopping them from winning they shouldn’t win.
This is the reason they are so quick to embrace authoritarianism.
AKA “The majority of people don’t support our agenda? Well we will just force them to.”
You have to be so goddamn stupid to fuck up being a conservative.
Literally half the country will vote conservative against their interests, and everyone else’s, and all conservatives have to do is not be so blatant about how harmful their policies are in order to have a good shot at winning.
Yet just over a month ago, they weren’t so unpopular that millions of folks were just going to sit this election out…because their other option was old.
Vote like your life depends on it
>They’re unpopular because their agenda is unpopular.
Yup.
Its why the GOP always turns to batshit crazy stuff, fear and anger, they have very little else that’s popular with a broad swath of the public, it’s why the GOP loves voter suppression so much, it’s a lot easier for them to win when they suppress turnout by making it difficult to vote
This is what you get by being “The Party of NO” and “The Party of Burn it all Down” for the last 16y
They also kind of *CANT* have popular well liked policies because their constituent voter pool is so dysfunctional and wants VERY different things that are at times mutually exclusive….You simply can not be the party of the Workung Class and Labor and also the Oligarchy, you can’t be the party of Religious Freaks and also Social Moderate Republicans and Independents, you can’t appeal to minorities because it pisses off the racists
It’s why their policies fucking suck, any time they move to appeal to one block it pisses off some other block and the GOP is so unpopular that they can’t afford to lose any of these people as voters…..
So they try to thread this needle with “Do nothing string” and keep their voters angry and scared so they vote for them. And when they do that they sound bizzare, they have to give answers like “sorry my wife isn’t white but shes a good mom” …. or how “Pregnancy bourne of rape or incest is inconvenient” for their abortion agenda
I don’t think its going to hold together much longer tbh, ive been waiting patiently for 20y for the GOP to totally implode and I think it’s getting really close