There will be a live feed in just under an hour, hopefully this link will allow people to find it easily and also be able to read some of the story ‘to date’.
monchota on
They news conference will say the same thing we all knew a month ago. The Starliner is done, its not taking anyone home. At best we get it off the ISS safely then pick up the crew in a Dragon.
Belzark on
I wonder if they will finally announce their decision, or will they keep kicking the can down the road until the absolute very last possible minute?
DegredationOfAnAge on
The update: “We just checked and the astronauts are still up there” – NASA
Sean921172 on
Quote from the feed “They will meet next week, and will review the flight readiness next week or the following week.”
The_Irish_Hello on
They’re literately changing mission parameters so they don’t have to classify this as a mishap. Unbelievable.
eggwithcheese on
One of the questions was answered with “Well we’re always tracking a ton of problems.”
Uh, not sure that’s something you want to say…
mikethespike056 on
NASA has announced that it will make an announcement where it will announce that the announcement was postponed to the end of August.
Duckpoke on
0% these astronauts return in a Boeing spacecraft imo
Avertha on
They seem to be working hard to provide non-answers that any politician would be proud of.
Doggydog123579 on
Does starliner have a critical design flaw and will that mean this is Starliners last trip to the station?
-we will always keep pushing for multiple providers.
Every-Progress-1117 on
Interesting wording (emphasis mine)
>”Bowersox answers by saying that Starliner is still the **contingency** vehicle for the two.
>”We think the risk is reasonable to put Butch and Suni on that vehicle **in a contingency,**” he says.”
Meriam-Webster defines a contingent event or condition: such as
This was in answer to a question about whether the craft is safe to return the crew in case of emergency.
Things are very carefully worded at these conferences, but this one to me stood out. My suspicion is that NASA are being very wary of past history (Columbia especially) and really do not want to see 2 dead crew (regardless of how likely/unlikely this is). So, I would read the above as “yes, in an emergency they’ll come home on Starliner”.
The other thing that comes to mind is if Starliner is going to leave without a crew, it needs to be remotely operated and as far as I understand, Boeing have not supplied that software.
YsoL8 on
This 8 months thing is why NASA is going to sit on this deep into the year. Logistically they could leave it 7 months with no real impact.
Which is going to leave Boeing being slow roasted in the meantime.
CollegeStation17155 on
And good grief!!! how many times does NASA have to assure us that they are not “stuck”, stranded”, or “marooned”???/s
Flubadubadubadub on
Any truth that they’re contemplating a name change to
Starliner Max?
Hangulman on
I am liking that the astronauts made it to the ISS in one piece. Also, the problematic launch and prolonged stay at the ISS are revealing many “opportunities for improvement and enhancement” that, when resolved, could help future launches.
I’m not liking the media narrative of “OMG they are stranded and gonna die!!!” I am also not liking that this launch feels like it was forced to happen before it was ready. Historically, launches like that have had unpleasant consequences.
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Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
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1. NASA isn’t convinced Starliner will come through re-entry successfully, which is obviously one of the core problems. Even though they are also claiming to to have full confidence in Boeing 🙂
2. They have no space suits the astronauts can use on the Dragon so the safety calculation is surprisingly complex.
I saw ‘stranded’ as hyperbole but its actually starting to look that way to me now.
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There will be a live feed in just under an hour, hopefully this link will allow people to find it easily and also be able to read some of the story ‘to date’.
They news conference will say the same thing we all knew a month ago. The Starliner is done, its not taking anyone home. At best we get it off the ISS safely then pick up the crew in a Dragon.
I wonder if they will finally announce their decision, or will they keep kicking the can down the road until the absolute very last possible minute?
The update: “We just checked and the astronauts are still up there” – NASA
Quote from the feed “They will meet next week, and will review the flight readiness next week or the following week.”
They’re literately changing mission parameters so they don’t have to classify this as a mishap. Unbelievable.
One of the questions was answered with “Well we’re always tracking a ton of problems.”
Uh, not sure that’s something you want to say…
NASA has announced that it will make an announcement where it will announce that the announcement was postponed to the end of August.
0% these astronauts return in a Boeing spacecraft imo
They seem to be working hard to provide non-answers that any politician would be proud of.
Does starliner have a critical design flaw and will that mean this is Starliners last trip to the station?
-we will always keep pushing for multiple providers.
Interesting wording (emphasis mine)
>”Bowersox answers by saying that Starliner is still the **contingency** vehicle for the two.
>”We think the risk is reasonable to put Butch and Suni on that vehicle **in a contingency,**” he says.”
Meriam-Webster defines a contingent event or condition: such as
1. an event (such as an emergency) that may but is not certain to occur
2. something liable to happen as an [adjunct](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/adjunct#h1) to or result of something else
This was in answer to a question about whether the craft is safe to return the crew in case of emergency.
Things are very carefully worded at these conferences, but this one to me stood out. My suspicion is that NASA are being very wary of past history (Columbia especially) and really do not want to see 2 dead crew (regardless of how likely/unlikely this is). So, I would read the above as “yes, in an emergency they’ll come home on Starliner”.
The other thing that comes to mind is if Starliner is going to leave without a crew, it needs to be remotely operated and as far as I understand, Boeing have not supplied that software.
This 8 months thing is why NASA is going to sit on this deep into the year. Logistically they could leave it 7 months with no real impact.
Which is going to leave Boeing being slow roasted in the meantime.
And good grief!!! how many times does NASA have to assure us that they are not “stuck”, stranded”, or “marooned”???/s
Any truth that they’re contemplating a name change to
Starliner Max?
I am liking that the astronauts made it to the ISS in one piece. Also, the problematic launch and prolonged stay at the ISS are revealing many “opportunities for improvement and enhancement” that, when resolved, could help future launches.
I’m not liking the media narrative of “OMG they are stranded and gonna die!!!” I am also not liking that this launch feels like it was forced to happen before it was ready. Historically, launches like that have had unpleasant consequences.
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
|Fewer Letters|More Letters|
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|CST|(Boeing) Crew Space Transportation capsules|
| |Central Standard Time (UTC-6)|
|[IDA](/r/Space/comments/1es5i5x/stub/li3ybqr “Last usage”)|[International Docking Adapter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Docking_Adapter)|
| |[International Dark-Sky Association](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Dark-Sky_Association)|
|Jargon|Definition|
|——-|———|—|
|[Starliner](/r/Space/comments/1es5i5x/stub/li41hp1 “Last usage”)|Boeing commercial crew capsule [CST-100](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_CST-100_Starliner)|
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More stuff from the briefing notes:
1. NASA isn’t convinced Starliner will come through re-entry successfully, which is obviously one of the core problems. Even though they are also claiming to to have full confidence in Boeing 🙂
2. They have no space suits the astronauts can use on the Dragon so the safety calculation is surprisingly complex.
I saw ‘stranded’ as hyperbole but its actually starting to look that way to me now.