Ukraine’s offensive in Kursk demonstrates that Russia’s nuclear threat is a bluff and renders the entire US Biden administration’s doctrine of de-escalation irrelevant.
Ukraine’s offensive in Kursk demonstrates that Russia’s nuclear threat is a bluff and renders the entire US Biden administration’s doctrine of de-escalation irrelevant.
Indeed it does.
Legally speaking this is invasion of Russian territory by troops of a foreign power something which should warrant a nuclear response.
Instead…nothing… impotent protests and sadly strikes at civilians.
Dofolo on
Ehm, just because you managed to pet the bear 1x without getting mauled doesn’t mean it won’t bite … This is a bit of a moot argument at this moment.. Ukraine has captured like 0.1% of russia, and it is not going to capture Moscow (yet.).
eRiderLyon on
Too few were publicly calling for a no fly zone in February 2022. Would have changed everything.
But understanding putin’s logic is such a long process in most of the western minds.
Positive_Judgment581 on
Russie has no nukes…
tifauk on
They’re using col war era tanks as makeshift people carriers…
There’s no bloody Nukes…
TremendousVarmint on
So, the War on Escalation will end?
Hour_Landscape_286 on
Indeed. This may have been one of the best objectives of the invasion of Russia: the diplomatic objective. After a few of Biden’s advisers changed their pants, hopefully the ones that did not need to change were heard.
Putin has been been very good at predicting the inaction of the west. Like Ukraine, we need to learn how to surprise.
Vierailija_Maasta on
Also nuke rant about sending tanks, aircraft, long range missiles, striking Russian soil.
Its obvious Russia does not want nuclear exhange. No one does. I dont trust them but seems there is some sense in their heads.
Old_Welcome_624 on
>Ukraine’s offensive in Kursk demonstrates that Russia’s nuclear threat is a bluff and renders the entire US Biden administration’s doctrine of de-escalation irrelevant.
Red line with nuke threat => Red line crossed => Red line become provocation => Forget about it => New red line with nuke threat => Repeat
How many times this cycle repeated? Now we are – again – in the third step.
DaVietDoomer114 on
I’m not sure if the US Actually cared about “de escalation” or if they wanted to bleed Russia dry into irrelevance by pro longing the war rather than risk a quick collapse.
Dan_85 on
They have nothing, they are a paper tiger. Remember that Ukraine has been able to fly drones (some of which have essentially been small planes) hundreds of km into russia largely at will and face almost no resistance, no anti-aircraft, just small arms fire once those drones are within a few hundred metres of their targets.
It’s all bluff and bravado. As we’ve seen time and time again over the years, the moment that russia faces any form of real, organised and motivated resistance, the “second army of the world” crumbles like a house of cards.
flodur1966 on
As soon as you attack another country they get an invitation to attack you back that is not an escalation. Using NBC weapons would be but only for the first country to use them. Russia attacked critical civilian infrastructure so Ukraine doing the same is also no escalation.
Zealousideal7801 on
Moot Biden point tbh. He doesn’t have a choice in showing de-escalation, just like any other nuclear nation btw. Because otherwise Russians can spin it in escalation to the face of the world. When _all_ of them know it’s bluff, they’re not you and me, they can’t act like they know that for sure. And we armchair generals know best
Responsible_Oil501 on
**The Russian Army, 2nd best Army in Russia.**
7orly7 on
De-escalation is like a woman stopping to fight a rapist in hopes the rapist stop midway.
If you want to stop the rapist you respond by shoving your thumbs into his eye sockets
Drew5olo on
Jake Sullivan, Abe Lincoln, Biden all must go in a few months and they are and will. Kamala Harris and Tik Walz is the way.
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Indeed it does.
Legally speaking this is invasion of Russian territory by troops of a foreign power something which should warrant a nuclear response.
Instead…nothing… impotent protests and sadly strikes at civilians.
Ehm, just because you managed to pet the bear 1x without getting mauled doesn’t mean it won’t bite … This is a bit of a moot argument at this moment.. Ukraine has captured like 0.1% of russia, and it is not going to capture Moscow (yet.).
Too few were publicly calling for a no fly zone in February 2022. Would have changed everything.
But understanding putin’s logic is such a long process in most of the western minds.
Russie has no nukes…
They’re using col war era tanks as makeshift people carriers…
There’s no bloody Nukes…
So, the War on Escalation will end?
Indeed. This may have been one of the best objectives of the invasion of Russia: the diplomatic objective. After a few of Biden’s advisers changed their pants, hopefully the ones that did not need to change were heard.
Putin has been been very good at predicting the inaction of the west. Like Ukraine, we need to learn how to surprise.
Also nuke rant about sending tanks, aircraft, long range missiles, striking Russian soil.
Its obvious Russia does not want nuclear exhange. No one does. I dont trust them but seems there is some sense in their heads.
>Ukraine’s offensive in Kursk demonstrates that Russia’s nuclear threat is a bluff and renders the entire US Biden administration’s doctrine of de-escalation irrelevant.
Red line with nuke threat => Red line crossed => Red line become provocation => Forget about it => New red line with nuke threat => Repeat
How many times this cycle repeated? Now we are – again – in the third step.
I’m not sure if the US Actually cared about “de escalation” or if they wanted to bleed Russia dry into irrelevance by pro longing the war rather than risk a quick collapse.
They have nothing, they are a paper tiger. Remember that Ukraine has been able to fly drones (some of which have essentially been small planes) hundreds of km into russia largely at will and face almost no resistance, no anti-aircraft, just small arms fire once those drones are within a few hundred metres of their targets.
It’s all bluff and bravado. As we’ve seen time and time again over the years, the moment that russia faces any form of real, organised and motivated resistance, the “second army of the world” crumbles like a house of cards.
As soon as you attack another country they get an invitation to attack you back that is not an escalation. Using NBC weapons would be but only for the first country to use them. Russia attacked critical civilian infrastructure so Ukraine doing the same is also no escalation.
Moot Biden point tbh. He doesn’t have a choice in showing de-escalation, just like any other nuclear nation btw. Because otherwise Russians can spin it in escalation to the face of the world. When _all_ of them know it’s bluff, they’re not you and me, they can’t act like they know that for sure. And we armchair generals know best
**The Russian Army, 2nd best Army in Russia.**
De-escalation is like a woman stopping to fight a rapist in hopes the rapist stop midway.
If you want to stop the rapist you respond by shoving your thumbs into his eye sockets
Jake Sullivan, Abe Lincoln, Biden all must go in a few months and they are and will. Kamala Harris and Tik Walz is the way.
What a stupid take