those new rules just got thrown out big win for voting rights
Pirvan on
Good.
KarateKid1984 on
They are clutching their pearls on the Republican and Conservative subs as if the Dems are the ones cheating by having this blocked. I hope they stretched before those mental gymnastics.
barneyrubbble on
Cox found that the rules are “unsupported by Georgia’s Election Code and are ***in fact contrary to the Election Code.”***
This is what we’re up against, folks. And you know these fuckers wouldn’t hesitate to call you unpatriotic at the drop of a hat.
Ruby2oy3 on
This ruling is significant because it underscores the importance of upholding fair election practices it’s crucial to ensure that any changes to voting rules are legal and don’t undermine democracy.
> Cox found that the rules are "Unsupported by Georgia's Election Code and are in fact contrary to the Election Code." He also wrote that the State Election Board did not have authority to pass them.
> Two other new rules that Cox invalidated were passed by the State Election Board in August and have to do with certification.
This is why electing proper ethical judges is important.
Special-Pie9894 on
Hell yeah.
circa285 on
Republicans know that if elections are free of interference, they lose.
DirtDevil1337 on
Now those people Trump openly named at a rally should be arrested if they actually try and do something. He said he has at least 100 people around the country that will do the same thing.
Oaoadil on
Good 👍
Troll_in_the_Knoll on
GOP: Judge Cox, that ain’t fair. How are we supposed to win any elections if we can’t cheat?
TheDulin on
Yeah, cause they are.
Stinkstinkerton on
If your trying to help Trump in any capacity at this point your clearly suffering from lead paint poisoning and should see your Dr. immediately. Or maybe you’re just plain stupid.
DaveMcNinja on
Won’t this just get escalated to the GA Supreme Court who will probably allow the rules to go in effect?
Kind-City-2173 on
Will it go to the SC?
GrannyMine on
Have people become so hungry for power, they will do anything, jeopardize their country’s freedom, to win? How do they look in the mirror?
ThatWontFit on
Who’s watching these people to make sure they don’t do it anyway? There hasn’t been enough punishment from J6 to deter these people.
It already got approved by the state election board, what stops them from saying “woke judge, we don’t have to obey.”
Lusion-7002 on
Thats great. This is what happens when you have a few great people in positions of power, they can do a lot.
Middle_Rip_6351 on
Judge Cox’s ruling against Georgia’s new election rules reveals the tension between state election boards and judicial oversight. Even conservatives are pushing back against overreach, showing that defending the Constitution transcends party lines. As the 2024 election approaches, this decision highlights how attempts to manipulate election processes can unite people to protect democracy.
Nodebunny on
Well damn Georgia, you the shining star in the south. Let’s go
jeeaudley on
GOP=CHEATING. Vote Harris.
bdrake0923 on
So much winning, I’m tired from all of the winning.
GTdeSade on
I’m an assistant precinct manager in DeKalb county, GA. I’ve written a lot about these new rules in the past; check my profile. Even though these rules were struck down yesterday, DeKalb had a training session I attended on how to implement the new hand count rule. I assume it was “just in case” there was some fuckery from another judge intervening and forcing the issue.
Most of us in my training were laughing about the entire mess, because in DeKalb, we already hand count the ballots at the end of the night anyway. However, the rule was written so badly we also understand why most of the small, outlying counties in Georgia were panicked about this. The new rule required the Manager of the precinct, with two witnesses, open the ballot box and then transport the ballots to three DIFFERENT poll workers, who then count the ballots in a childish process required by the rule. Then the three counters report their number to the Manager, who then has to fill out form, with signatures by all six different people.
For my precinct and most in urban or suburban areas, this wasn’t a real problem. Just another form and procedure on top of the dozens we deal with at the end of the night anyway. It’s the tiny, low population rural counties that would have been screwed by this new rule; most of their precincts don’t have six total people on staff for an election. Some operate with just the state minimum: three. Where were they supposed to get three more sworn poll workers per precinct at such a late date?
The other issue at the precinct level was the form that had to be generated by all this. The forms we fill out are generated at the county level, after months of testing, vetting and consideration by the county election boards. You know……people that have actually worked in voting precincts and understand what happens when state and county rules bump up with actual real situations. The counties didn’t have the time to generate these new forms, test them and then send out with all of our piles of election materials. The form we were working with in my training yesterday was…….a first draft. It could not have been the final version, didn’t take into account the precincts with multiple ballot boxes nor combined precincts in one voting location. In short, poll workers in Georgia would have been working with an official, sworn form we had never seen before, on election night after working a 14 hour day already.
Personally, I haven’t been really all that wound up about all of this, mainly because DeKalb already had a procedure we have been following for hand counting ballots and comparing that count against all the various technology systems we work with. The only real issue I have is the stupidity and ignorance of the clowns writing these rules. It’s obvious to anyone these people have never worked in a voting precinct. There’s no realistic consideration of how the systems, forms and procedures we have in place interact, nor the huge amount of physical work and paperwork that happens in every precinct after the polls close. Poll workers, who are “paid” but not really in this for the money, are required to be perfectly accurate on dozens of forms and reports after getting to the precinct at 5:30am and staying there (by law) all day. This blizzard of paper happens after the polls close and usually takes between 60 to 75minutes. It’s physically and mentally exhausting, and most of our poll workers are retirees.
I’m glad the rules got tossed, mainly because of the chaos these would have caused in the rural counties. My team and most of the others here in DeKalb would have shrugged, laughed and carried on. My precinct team has been together for two years already and we consider ourselves to be one of the “ace” squads. We are gonna run as perfect, open and accurate election as possible. I don’t expect there to be as much a delay in Georgia as there has been in the past; early voting has been off chart heavy so far and the share of the electorate that will wait until November is getting smaller and smaller. Georgia is going to be close, but we are gonna report results on time and accurately.
Tell all your friends to vote. Tell your cashier at the grocery store, drugstore, your Uber driver, everyone you interact with. The sweet lady who checked me out at the Kroger yesterday didn’t know she could walk across the street to vote early, she thought she had to take time out of her day off and ride the bus to a different location. The line was only about 15minutes at that point yesterday. Georgia is coming in.
>Georgia voters make selections on a touchscreen voting machine that prints out a piece of paper with a human-readable list of the voter’s choices as well as a QR code. That is the ballot that the voter puts into a scanner, which records the votes. The hand-count would be of the paper ballots — not the votes.
Same in Ohio. These people really don’t trust that the scanning machine is counting ballots accurately?
What, a poll worker is removing the physical card from inside and deleting the information from it’s memory 🙄
Valahiru on
Small group of petulant children who have been told they’re wrong about too many things in life decide that they can wield their non-existent powers to mold an institution of democracy to conform to their small-minded view of how things should work. Reality told them to take their binky and go to bed.
Ron497 on
This is why I don’t understand how we’re just going to engage in a presidential election with Trump as the GOP candidate again. If you play basketball against another team, beat them fairly, and they claim the scoreboard was broken and the ref paid off, would you schedule another game against that team?
Trump, Vance, and many others claim 2020 was stolen and rigged. They’re running a mentally ill criminal again. I say it’s time to just keep Biden in the White House until the GOP a) offers a non-criminal candidate b) admits 2020 wasn’t stolen c) we put all the politicians (Cruz, Hawley, etc.) who enable 2020 in jail d) stops trying to rig this election.
Trump needs to be in jail for the GA call naming a very specific number of votes. That alone disqualifies him. He’s on tape, folks. We know there is going to be violence and bloodshed this election. Why not stand strong now and slow this mess down before it gets worse? This includes putting Clarence & Ginni in jail, along with Alito and Roberts. And Roger Stone.
Trathnonen on
So have the people responsible for drafting and passing said illegal, unconstitutional, rules arrested for an attempted election interference and electoral fraud. If what they did is illegal, issue a bench warrant for their arrest. As long as there is no legal penalty for fascism, they’ll keep doing it.
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those new rules just got thrown out big win for voting rights
Good.
They are clutching their pearls on the Republican and Conservative subs as if the Dems are the ones cheating by having this blocked. I hope they stretched before those mental gymnastics.
Cox found that the rules are “unsupported by Georgia’s Election Code and are ***in fact contrary to the Election Code.”***
This is what we’re up against, folks. And you know these fuckers wouldn’t hesitate to call you unpatriotic at the drop of a hat.
This ruling is significant because it underscores the importance of upholding fair election practices it’s crucial to ensure that any changes to voting rules are legal and don’t undermine democracy.
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://fortune.com/2024/10/17/georgia-judge-election-rules-trump-state-board-illegal-unconstitutional-void/) reduced by 93%. (I’m a bot)
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> A Georgia judge has declared that seven new election rules recently passed by the State Election Board are "Illegal, unconstitutional and void.”
> Cox found that the rules are "Unsupported by Georgia's Election Code and are in fact contrary to the Election Code." He also wrote that the State Election Board did not have authority to pass them.
> Two other new rules that Cox invalidated were passed by the State Election Board in August and have to do with certification.
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This is why electing proper ethical judges is important.
Hell yeah.
Republicans know that if elections are free of interference, they lose.
Now those people Trump openly named at a rally should be arrested if they actually try and do something. He said he has at least 100 people around the country that will do the same thing.
Good 👍
GOP: Judge Cox, that ain’t fair. How are we supposed to win any elections if we can’t cheat?
Yeah, cause they are.
If your trying to help Trump in any capacity at this point your clearly suffering from lead paint poisoning and should see your Dr. immediately. Or maybe you’re just plain stupid.
Won’t this just get escalated to the GA Supreme Court who will probably allow the rules to go in effect?
Will it go to the SC?
Have people become so hungry for power, they will do anything, jeopardize their country’s freedom, to win? How do they look in the mirror?
Who’s watching these people to make sure they don’t do it anyway? There hasn’t been enough punishment from J6 to deter these people.
It already got approved by the state election board, what stops them from saying “woke judge, we don’t have to obey.”
Thats great. This is what happens when you have a few great people in positions of power, they can do a lot.
Judge Cox’s ruling against Georgia’s new election rules reveals the tension between state election boards and judicial oversight. Even conservatives are pushing back against overreach, showing that defending the Constitution transcends party lines. As the 2024 election approaches, this decision highlights how attempts to manipulate election processes can unite people to protect democracy.
Well damn Georgia, you the shining star in the south. Let’s go
GOP=CHEATING. Vote Harris.
So much winning, I’m tired from all of the winning.
I’m an assistant precinct manager in DeKalb county, GA. I’ve written a lot about these new rules in the past; check my profile. Even though these rules were struck down yesterday, DeKalb had a training session I attended on how to implement the new hand count rule. I assume it was “just in case” there was some fuckery from another judge intervening and forcing the issue.
Most of us in my training were laughing about the entire mess, because in DeKalb, we already hand count the ballots at the end of the night anyway. However, the rule was written so badly we also understand why most of the small, outlying counties in Georgia were panicked about this. The new rule required the Manager of the precinct, with two witnesses, open the ballot box and then transport the ballots to three DIFFERENT poll workers, who then count the ballots in a childish process required by the rule. Then the three counters report their number to the Manager, who then has to fill out form, with signatures by all six different people.
For my precinct and most in urban or suburban areas, this wasn’t a real problem. Just another form and procedure on top of the dozens we deal with at the end of the night anyway. It’s the tiny, low population rural counties that would have been screwed by this new rule; most of their precincts don’t have six total people on staff for an election. Some operate with just the state minimum: three. Where were they supposed to get three more sworn poll workers per precinct at such a late date?
The other issue at the precinct level was the form that had to be generated by all this. The forms we fill out are generated at the county level, after months of testing, vetting and consideration by the county election boards. You know……people that have actually worked in voting precincts and understand what happens when state and county rules bump up with actual real situations. The counties didn’t have the time to generate these new forms, test them and then send out with all of our piles of election materials. The form we were working with in my training yesterday was…….a first draft. It could not have been the final version, didn’t take into account the precincts with multiple ballot boxes nor combined precincts in one voting location. In short, poll workers in Georgia would have been working with an official, sworn form we had never seen before, on election night after working a 14 hour day already.
Personally, I haven’t been really all that wound up about all of this, mainly because DeKalb already had a procedure we have been following for hand counting ballots and comparing that count against all the various technology systems we work with. The only real issue I have is the stupidity and ignorance of the clowns writing these rules. It’s obvious to anyone these people have never worked in a voting precinct. There’s no realistic consideration of how the systems, forms and procedures we have in place interact, nor the huge amount of physical work and paperwork that happens in every precinct after the polls close. Poll workers, who are “paid” but not really in this for the money, are required to be perfectly accurate on dozens of forms and reports after getting to the precinct at 5:30am and staying there (by law) all day. This blizzard of paper happens after the polls close and usually takes between 60 to 75minutes. It’s physically and mentally exhausting, and most of our poll workers are retirees.
I’m glad the rules got tossed, mainly because of the chaos these would have caused in the rural counties. My team and most of the others here in DeKalb would have shrugged, laughed and carried on. My precinct team has been together for two years already and we consider ourselves to be one of the “ace” squads. We are gonna run as perfect, open and accurate election as possible. I don’t expect there to be as much a delay in Georgia as there has been in the past; early voting has been off chart heavy so far and the share of the electorate that will wait until November is getting smaller and smaller. Georgia is going to be close, but we are gonna report results on time and accurately.
Tell all your friends to vote. Tell your cashier at the grocery store, drugstore, your Uber driver, everyone you interact with. The sweet lady who checked me out at the Kroger yesterday didn’t know she could walk across the street to vote early, she thought she had to take time out of her day off and ride the bus to a different location. The line was only about 15minutes at that point yesterday. Georgia is coming in.
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[https://archive.is/LFauM](https://archive.is/LFauM)
>Georgia voters make selections on a touchscreen voting machine that prints out a piece of paper with a human-readable list of the voter’s choices as well as a QR code. That is the ballot that the voter puts into a scanner, which records the votes. The hand-count would be of the paper ballots — not the votes.
Same in Ohio. These people really don’t trust that the scanning machine is counting ballots accurately?
What, a poll worker is removing the physical card from inside and deleting the information from it’s memory 🙄
Small group of petulant children who have been told they’re wrong about too many things in life decide that they can wield their non-existent powers to mold an institution of democracy to conform to their small-minded view of how things should work. Reality told them to take their binky and go to bed.
This is why I don’t understand how we’re just going to engage in a presidential election with Trump as the GOP candidate again. If you play basketball against another team, beat them fairly, and they claim the scoreboard was broken and the ref paid off, would you schedule another game against that team?
Trump, Vance, and many others claim 2020 was stolen and rigged. They’re running a mentally ill criminal again. I say it’s time to just keep Biden in the White House until the GOP a) offers a non-criminal candidate b) admits 2020 wasn’t stolen c) we put all the politicians (Cruz, Hawley, etc.) who enable 2020 in jail d) stops trying to rig this election.
Trump needs to be in jail for the GA call naming a very specific number of votes. That alone disqualifies him. He’s on tape, folks. We know there is going to be violence and bloodshed this election. Why not stand strong now and slow this mess down before it gets worse? This includes putting Clarence & Ginni in jail, along with Alito and Roberts. And Roger Stone.
So have the people responsible for drafting and passing said illegal, unconstitutional, rules arrested for an attempted election interference and electoral fraud. If what they did is illegal, issue a bench warrant for their arrest. As long as there is no legal penalty for fascism, they’ll keep doing it.