This is kind of a bipartisan cause for us, despite what political side you’re on it is objectively good for our country to have financial interests and investments in our country when a major world power has money in it, if Russia were to attack us, it would mean Russia is also stepping on the foot or China, which in this time of political isolation of Russia, makes China existential partner for Russia, meaning there will be more reasons for Russia against attacking us.
Whatever human rights issues China is dealing with is completely irrelevant to us considering the fact that we live under constant threat of Russian invasion.
xajiraqab on
hell no. no chiina, russia, iran. communists and terrorists. our government only trying to connect to them because they trying to leave eu/us parthnerships and influence,. hope GD will be ended after one week or we fcked
Maleficent_Fee4055 on
How should Georgia navigate the geopolitical landscape going forward?
China is offering to finance several critical infrastructural projects that could result in rise of prosperity in Georgia.
Finally on a moral landscape China is actively aiding Russia and is itself threatening peace in Taiwan in near future.
RuleSouthern3609 on
Yes, China wants some cargo to go over Georgia, it will be stupid for us to refuse the insane amounts of money China is spending for that cause.
Pros for us would be more money for infrastructure, thus more jobs created to maintain and improve that infrastructure. We could also, possibly, secure better partnership terms with China, such as less trade barriers
hrsN1337 on
They allready do
JacobAZ on
Just ask South Africa, Sri Lanka, Kenya, Pakistan, etc…… nothing good from what I’ve seen
Green_Rise9353 on
Everyone trades with China, Europeans and Americans and this is not avoidable. What a question lol
ChrisTheDog on
Just don’t sign anything that cedes rights to a deep water port, mining, or another natural resource in the event of defaulting on a loan.
China will cash this shit in the moment a payment is missed, and you’ll have Chinese police stations popping up shortly thereafter.
OneCatchyUsername on
Depends what that partnership entails. If it’s going to create a gap between us and the West then it’s a terrible idea. If it won’t hurt our relationship with the west then more superpowers having stake in our country more they’ll want stability of our territory and deter any imperialistic ideas from other countries. Basically be Belgium, cause World War if anyone invades 😆
arz_villainy on
yes absolutely, idiots in this comment section are deluded into thinking we could ever trust europe, let alone russia lmfao
Turtles614 on
It’s looking like we are already trying to partner up with them.
DrStirbitch on
China supports Russia in its war with Ukraine. Doesn’t that ring alarm bells for Georgia?
left_control on
Partner no, exploit them yes
CubeNL on
I was in Georgia 1,5y ago, they already have infrastructure investments from China. Complete tunnels/roads etc are being built as we speak
Objective-Ad-2453 on
absolutely not
synttacks on
china is russia’s bestie
burimo on
Overall, sure, why not. But Georgia shouldn’t have it as it’s main partner, it needs diversity. It also applies to democratic counties tbh, but overall it is much more safe to depend on EU rather China or Russia.
SaNDrO2J on
I have the same opinion gimme pandas and we can talk.
eyesofapproval on
Big no
oxheyman on
No fuck china
G56G on
Only as part of the EU on its side. Assuming Georgia keeps advancing toward the EU.
xxChelios89 on
Yes, but not the only partner
Eru421 on
The more economic partners Georgia has, the better it is for the country and its people. If the West is concerned about Georgia becoming dependent on China, it should offer counter-investments in Georgia’s economy. More partnerships mean more competition, increased bargaining power, and greater economic opportunities for the Georgian people. If you disagree with this approach, consider advocating for your local government to build stronger trade relationships with Georgia. I wish them Nothing but the best!
faradaybach1 on
Georgia’s smartest move? Play it cool. Take China’s investment, but don’t lose sight of the bigger game. Stay cozy with the EU, keep things smooth with neighbors, and avoid getting tied down to any one partner. If Georgia can balance all that, it might pull off the trade route glow-up of the decade.
Libre-Enthusiast on
Simple: We gotta trade as long as it’s profitable. If the alliance with EU or USA is at stake, we gotta choose the west.
xxpegasxx on
Yes, I answered your question on r/rustaveli (RIP), and I don’t mind answering it here as well.
The Middle Corridor is one of the most important projects in our history. Putting every financial benefit aside, our country will become crucial for both China and Europe. In short, for the first time, China—a country with significant influence and leverage over Russia—will have a vested interest in peace and in ensuring Georgia faces no threat from Russia. We aligned with the USA, but it appears to have little influence over Russia, nor does it have a strong, pragmatic interest in safeguarding Georgia from the northern threat (hence 2008 and how “west” didn’t really do anything)
Additionally, we’ll become much more important to the EU, and for the first time, it will be in their best interest to have us as part of the alliance, whereas right now, it’s not clearly particularly profitable for them.
New-Interaction1893 on
Zelensky during his presidency worked to distance Ukraine from the west not only to appease Russia but for being able to drastically increased the trade and relations with China because it it was a reliable partner close to Russia, so the optimal mediator to avoid any kind of future tensions.
I mean written like this it seems an optimal plan for Georgia considering that its situation is very close to the one in Ukraine.
Correct-Line-6564 on
What have happened to the lakes . They all slide towards the south on this map.
XHSxJD on
Middle corridor benefits both China and Georgia and other countries along the way. Who else is gonna finance it? China is probably more than glad to have an alternative route away from Russia. Russia and China had bad blood before. I doubt China puts all the bets on Russia. Talking about road constructions – who designed it, including route selection, soil analysis, writing down the requirements for reinforcement against flood/mud slide at specific sections etc.? Like building a house there is construction company, there is architecture company, there is civil/structural engineering company…
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Short answer: yes
Long answer: also yes
This is kind of a bipartisan cause for us, despite what political side you’re on it is objectively good for our country to have financial interests and investments in our country when a major world power has money in it, if Russia were to attack us, it would mean Russia is also stepping on the foot or China, which in this time of political isolation of Russia, makes China existential partner for Russia, meaning there will be more reasons for Russia against attacking us.
Whatever human rights issues China is dealing with is completely irrelevant to us considering the fact that we live under constant threat of Russian invasion.
hell no. no chiina, russia, iran. communists and terrorists. our government only trying to connect to them because they trying to leave eu/us parthnerships and influence,. hope GD will be ended after one week or we fcked
How should Georgia navigate the geopolitical landscape going forward?
China is offering to finance several critical infrastructural projects that could result in rise of prosperity in Georgia.
On the other hand EU and US are vary China’s sway to become problematic which is already somewhat apparent in Greece for example: https://cepa.org/comprehensive-reports/chinese-influence-in-greece/
Finally on a moral landscape China is actively aiding Russia and is itself threatening peace in Taiwan in near future.
Yes, China wants some cargo to go over Georgia, it will be stupid for us to refuse the insane amounts of money China is spending for that cause.
Pros for us would be more money for infrastructure, thus more jobs created to maintain and improve that infrastructure. We could also, possibly, secure better partnership terms with China, such as less trade barriers
They allready do
Just ask South Africa, Sri Lanka, Kenya, Pakistan, etc…… nothing good from what I’ve seen
Everyone trades with China, Europeans and Americans and this is not avoidable. What a question lol
Just don’t sign anything that cedes rights to a deep water port, mining, or another natural resource in the event of defaulting on a loan.
China will cash this shit in the moment a payment is missed, and you’ll have Chinese police stations popping up shortly thereafter.
Depends what that partnership entails. If it’s going to create a gap between us and the West then it’s a terrible idea. If it won’t hurt our relationship with the west then more superpowers having stake in our country more they’ll want stability of our territory and deter any imperialistic ideas from other countries. Basically be Belgium, cause World War if anyone invades 😆
yes absolutely, idiots in this comment section are deluded into thinking we could ever trust europe, let alone russia lmfao
It’s looking like we are already trying to partner up with them.
China supports Russia in its war with Ukraine. Doesn’t that ring alarm bells for Georgia?
Partner no, exploit them yes
I was in Georgia 1,5y ago, they already have infrastructure investments from China. Complete tunnels/roads etc are being built as we speak
absolutely not
china is russia’s bestie
Overall, sure, why not. But Georgia shouldn’t have it as it’s main partner, it needs diversity. It also applies to democratic counties tbh, but overall it is much more safe to depend on EU rather China or Russia.
I have the same opinion gimme pandas and we can talk.
Big no
No fuck china
Only as part of the EU on its side. Assuming Georgia keeps advancing toward the EU.
Yes, but not the only partner
The more economic partners Georgia has, the better it is for the country and its people. If the West is concerned about Georgia becoming dependent on China, it should offer counter-investments in Georgia’s economy. More partnerships mean more competition, increased bargaining power, and greater economic opportunities for the Georgian people. If you disagree with this approach, consider advocating for your local government to build stronger trade relationships with Georgia. I wish them Nothing but the best!
Georgia’s smartest move? Play it cool. Take China’s investment, but don’t lose sight of the bigger game. Stay cozy with the EU, keep things smooth with neighbors, and avoid getting tied down to any one partner. If Georgia can balance all that, it might pull off the trade route glow-up of the decade.
Simple: We gotta trade as long as it’s profitable. If the alliance with EU or USA is at stake, we gotta choose the west.
Yes, I answered your question on r/rustaveli (RIP), and I don’t mind answering it here as well.
The Middle Corridor is one of the most important projects in our history. Putting every financial benefit aside, our country will become crucial for both China and Europe. In short, for the first time, China—a country with significant influence and leverage over Russia—will have a vested interest in peace and in ensuring Georgia faces no threat from Russia. We aligned with the USA, but it appears to have little influence over Russia, nor does it have a strong, pragmatic interest in safeguarding Georgia from the northern threat (hence 2008 and how “west” didn’t really do anything)
Additionally, we’ll become much more important to the EU, and for the first time, it will be in their best interest to have us as part of the alliance, whereas right now, it’s not clearly particularly profitable for them.
Zelensky during his presidency worked to distance Ukraine from the west not only to appease Russia but for being able to drastically increased the trade and relations with China because it it was a reliable partner close to Russia, so the optimal mediator to avoid any kind of future tensions.
I mean written like this it seems an optimal plan for Georgia considering that its situation is very close to the one in Ukraine.
What have happened to the lakes . They all slide towards the south on this map.
Middle corridor benefits both China and Georgia and other countries along the way. Who else is gonna finance it? China is probably more than glad to have an alternative route away from Russia. Russia and China had bad blood before. I doubt China puts all the bets on Russia. Talking about road constructions – who designed it, including route selection, soil analysis, writing down the requirements for reinforcement against flood/mud slide at specific sections etc.? Like building a house there is construction company, there is architecture company, there is civil/structural engineering company…