German chancellor tells Bundestag he is prepared to discuss ending war in Ukraine with Putin

https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2024/10/16/german-chancellor-tells-bundestag-he-is-prepared-to-discuss-ending-war-in-ukraine-with-putin-en-news

29 Comments

  1. Fair_Performance_251 on

    West failed plain and simple. The most industrialized nations in the world couldn’t get their shit together to supply and Ukraine to push the Iranian and North Korean reliant Russians back. This is downright embarrassing for the West what a huge PR win for every anti western nation. BRICS applications gonna be through the roof.

  2. Remarkable-Way4986 on

    Putin only understands strength, so tell him Germany will send troops if russia doesn’t stop their crimes in Ukraine

  3. bruh

    How does Germany keep fumbling in the face of this conflict (I mean they have helped a lot, but also a lot of stupid shit peddling).

  4. That’s not, what the source article is saying. This is misleading at best. It even closes with how there can’t be anymore enlargening of one’s country nowadays. He just says (again) that someone’s gotta talk to Putin.

  5. Who the f@ck does Scholz think he is?
    Delusional weakling with no spine.
    It’s not his call.

  6. I know about another person who is prepared to discuss ending the war, but people don’t really seem to favor this guy.

  7. FiveFingerDisco on

    …but it’s not his place to discuss the russian capitulation and reparations. That’s Zelenskis’ job.

  8. TL; DR He’s talking about Zelensky’s own peace summit.

    >Scholz reminded the chamber that Ukraine had consented to Russia taking part in a second Summit on Peace in Ukraine, which Kyiv has said it plans to convene by the end of the year.

    But of course the usual gang of idiots is here to bleat about how Ukraine’s allies are stabbing Ukraine, or how Ukraine has failed, or Germany isn’t sending any aid to Ukraine, or any one of another of their little piles of horseshit they love to shovel.

  9. CaptainConsensus on

    Scholz obviously thinks, that if peace deal is reached, Germany can go back to doing business with Russia as usual. This is exactly the reason why north stream was blown up, because Germans still think that everything will return to normal after the war. Somebody needs to blow up the second one, so they cant stop dreaming about this.

  10. This for Ukraine to decide. German chancellor’s role is to discuss rescuing native Germans in Sudetenland, this is traditionally German chancellor’s role.

  11. He’s obviously pressured by Germany’s economy going down the hill. Still, fuck him. Him and Macron.

  12. IntroductionRare9619 on

    Well that’s just fine and all but that turkey is not the one doing the fighting. It’s actually in the title Germany. It’s the Russia Ukraine war. See that? Your name doesn’t even come into it. Let’s talk after you lose a few thousand soldiers and Putin’s knocking at your doorstep.

  13. I can’t believe they are going to appease Putin. We are going to be right back at this in a couple of years with a re armed Russia.

  14. Typical Europeans. Always backing out and appeasing aggressors. No wonder America is tired footing the bill.

    Once again America has to clean up Europe’s messes. Hopefully we give Ukraine more weapons and end this conflict.

  15. Guilty-Literature312 on

    Scholz says a lot.
    The real situation:

    According to Ivan Trollovitsj Optimistki Ukraine was doomed to loose the war since feb 2022.

    Ivan’s little problem is, since june 2022 russia has barely advanced at all in Ukraine.

    Ivan: “Ukraine is doomed!”
    But you withdrew from the entirety of Northern Ukraine.

    Ivan: “Well Ukraine is still doomed!”
    And then you got kicked out of Charkiv.

    Ivan “Well, russia is still winning bigly!”
    And then you ran from Cherson.

    Ivan: “Butbutbutbut…. Bakmut, Avidivka and Vuhledar!”
    Villages and tiny towns taken in an entire year.
    Meanwhile, Ukrainian soldiers have been marching through russian streets in Kursk Oblast, and the spineless russian army has not yet dared to throw them out after 2,5 months.

    No, Ivan.
    Olaf Scholz is not the Greatest Bundeskanzler Ever.
    But even he knows russia is Very Far From Winning.
    Of course, Ukraine is not yet winning either.
    But young russians from Moscow will soon be shot in the back like Buryatians too, if they refuse to run through open fields towards the Ukrainian trenches.
    It is ok.
    Young Muscovites are quite cheap.

  16. There’s only two ways this can end
    First Russia retreats completely cedes all territories.
    The two split scenario is this: Putin dead, or Putin on trial in the Hague for grave humanitarian and war crimes.