Every day I’m more and more relieved (maybe guilty?) that I backed out of an education degree. Teachers are cut from a different cloth.
thieh on
Given most of what AI does is plagiarizing and he is using that, it should fall under the rules regarding plagiarism. Did the student back track and sort out the references and rephrase in his own words? I would doubt that given the behaviour of their parents.
voiderest on
> harmed his chances of getting into Stanford University and other elite schools
I’m sure those elite schools will love him using ChatGPT to do all his course work instead of learning anything himself. /s
JauntyLurker on
This upcoming generation is so cooked. Even college kids nowadays cannot conceive of doing their own research without AI.
Consistent-Sea-410 on
Be funny if they rejected the student due to the litigious nature of the parents
FlaviusVespasian on
Those parents can get fucked-kid cheated
niknight_ml on
As I tell my seniors, if you think a bad grade on one assignment is keeping you out of the college of your dreams… there’s a lot more stuff that’s actually keeping you out of that college.
1smoothcriminal on
How priviledged does one have to be to instead of talk to their son and discipline him that they sue the school instead.
nonlawyer on
Gee I wonder where this kid got his sense of entitlement from
dethb0y on
if you’re cheating so obviously you get caught, you deserve the penalty.
Earthpig_Johnson on
Shitass parents.
255001434 on
I can’t imagine wanting to be a public school teacher these days.
nobackup42 on
Dumb is what dumb does. Don’t belive the marketing
PieAndIScream on
Really? Way to parent your kids.
Youngthicksandwitch on
Strange way to frame the argument in title, seems equally plausible that he did not use AI and is being wrongfully accused as there’s many such stories
Significant-Branch22 on
Allowing the kid to have a grade above 0 for that assignment is lenient
Ghune on
My parents would have punished me for that.
I guess some people don’t realise that they are harming their kids in the long run.
A-No1FamousTramp on
Are her parents Barbara Streisand? Drawing national attention to the fact that their progeny is lazy, entitled and a cheat, and that they are a primary reason they are a raising quite the opposite of someone that should earn entrance into a prestigious institution.
EmperorXerro on
Accusing a student of using AI is already pointless. I just say it seems like the writer had a lot of outside help and if they want to talk about it, I’m available.
So far they’re happy with a D.
grimace24 on
Touchy subject but Generative AI is a tool that schools need to regulate. This isn’t the first or last time this will happen. There are tools now that detect AI on paper and digital copies. The kid should have done his own work. A Saturday detention and a grade of D is lenient. It’s basically the kids cheating, most schools would expel for that.
TheFlamingGit on
I work as a tech in a local middle school. We should if properly funded, have at the most 20 kids per class.
Right now the average is 30 kids. I see teachers at the end of the day questioning their life choices.
And don’t get me started on discipline. If you have too many kids in class, you will have the zipperheads, as my dad called them, completely ruining the class for others. It is not one or 2 of them, we are talking 4-6 per class, being disruptive. AND THEY DON’T CARE.
Threaten them with Silent Lunch, ISS, OSS..They don’t give a flying F. And some of the parents are even worse.
If you have a kid (I did she is 21 now in college), discipline them at home for god sake. I am not talking about beating them within an inch of their life, but yea gods, stand up to the little terrorists.
eloquent_beaver on
Hopefully they’ll be sanctioned by the court for filing frivolous suits and wasting the court’s time.
Their kid learned a valuable life lesson that actions have consequences, but in a relatively safe environment where the consequences are low and before they hit real life with real consequences.
In university, one plagiarism infraction and you can be dismissed from the university like that. On the job, one act of misconduct and you can be fired like that.
I don’t even know how to process this information.
RemarkableJacket2800 on
Well the parents are right , the school was stupid enough to not bad /regulate the use of ai ,
Also how the school proved he used ai ?
turinturambar on
Can’t say too much on a lawsuit I haven’t read into much. But looking at the motion to dismiss, I see some more points mentioned than in the article
> Omitted from the plaintiffs’ Verified Complaint is the clear and unambiguous
communication of HHS’ prohibition of AI use by students to both RNH and his parents well before the December 2023 Social Studies project. During the 2023-2024 school year, the English Language Arts (“ELA”) Department at HHS was charged with educating students about proper citing, research techniques, and setting expectations for use of AI. The ELA Department is selected for this function because ELA classes intensely focus on research and writing. The skills, rules and
expectations for research and citing are, nevertheless, transferrable to all classes at HHS.
nefariousNIFFIN on
By filing the lawsuit, didn’t they in fact tell Sanford and every other center of higher education that their kid is a spoiled cheater who isn’t Ivy League material? Who in their right mind admits this kid now?
smolhippie on
Kids are gonna be dumb as rocks these days.
Bitter-Good-2540 on
Good, AI is a tool and you need to learn how to use it.
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Every day I’m more and more relieved (maybe guilty?) that I backed out of an education degree. Teachers are cut from a different cloth.
Given most of what AI does is plagiarizing and he is using that, it should fall under the rules regarding plagiarism. Did the student back track and sort out the references and rephrase in his own words? I would doubt that given the behaviour of their parents.
> harmed his chances of getting into Stanford University and other elite schools
I’m sure those elite schools will love him using ChatGPT to do all his course work instead of learning anything himself. /s
This upcoming generation is so cooked. Even college kids nowadays cannot conceive of doing their own research without AI.
Be funny if they rejected the student due to the litigious nature of the parents
Those parents can get fucked-kid cheated
As I tell my seniors, if you think a bad grade on one assignment is keeping you out of the college of your dreams… there’s a lot more stuff that’s actually keeping you out of that college.
How priviledged does one have to be to instead of talk to their son and discipline him that they sue the school instead.
Gee I wonder where this kid got his sense of entitlement from
if you’re cheating so obviously you get caught, you deserve the penalty.
Shitass parents.
I can’t imagine wanting to be a public school teacher these days.
Dumb is what dumb does. Don’t belive the marketing
Really? Way to parent your kids.
Strange way to frame the argument in title, seems equally plausible that he did not use AI and is being wrongfully accused as there’s many such stories
Allowing the kid to have a grade above 0 for that assignment is lenient
My parents would have punished me for that.
I guess some people don’t realise that they are harming their kids in the long run.
Are her parents Barbara Streisand? Drawing national attention to the fact that their progeny is lazy, entitled and a cheat, and that they are a primary reason they are a raising quite the opposite of someone that should earn entrance into a prestigious institution.
Accusing a student of using AI is already pointless. I just say it seems like the writer had a lot of outside help and if they want to talk about it, I’m available.
So far they’re happy with a D.
Touchy subject but Generative AI is a tool that schools need to regulate. This isn’t the first or last time this will happen. There are tools now that detect AI on paper and digital copies. The kid should have done his own work. A Saturday detention and a grade of D is lenient. It’s basically the kids cheating, most schools would expel for that.
I work as a tech in a local middle school. We should if properly funded, have at the most 20 kids per class.
Right now the average is 30 kids. I see teachers at the end of the day questioning their life choices.
And don’t get me started on discipline. If you have too many kids in class, you will have the zipperheads, as my dad called them, completely ruining the class for others. It is not one or 2 of them, we are talking 4-6 per class, being disruptive. AND THEY DON’T CARE.
Threaten them with Silent Lunch, ISS, OSS..They don’t give a flying F. And some of the parents are even worse.
If you have a kid (I did she is 21 now in college), discipline them at home for god sake. I am not talking about beating them within an inch of their life, but yea gods, stand up to the little terrorists.
Hopefully they’ll be sanctioned by the court for filing frivolous suits and wasting the court’s time.
Their kid learned a valuable life lesson that actions have consequences, but in a relatively safe environment where the consequences are low and before they hit real life with real consequences.
In university, one plagiarism infraction and you can be dismissed from the university like that. On the job, one act of misconduct and you can be fired like that.
According [this news story](https://www.wcvb.com/article/hingham-high-school-ai-lawsuit/62602947), the teen’s father is a teacher and his mother is a writer.
I don’t even know how to process this information.
Well the parents are right , the school was stupid enough to not bad /regulate the use of ai ,
Also how the school proved he used ai ?
Can’t say too much on a lawsuit I haven’t read into much. But looking at the motion to dismiss, I see some more points mentioned than in the article
> Omitted from the plaintiffs’ Verified Complaint is the clear and unambiguous
communication of HHS’ prohibition of AI use by students to both RNH and his parents well before the December 2023 Social Studies project. During the 2023-2024 school year, the English Language Arts (“ELA”) Department at HHS was charged with educating students about proper citing, research techniques, and setting expectations for use of AI. The ELA Department is selected for this function because ELA classes intensely focus on research and writing. The skills, rules and
expectations for research and citing are, nevertheless, transferrable to all classes at HHS.
By filing the lawsuit, didn’t they in fact tell Sanford and every other center of higher education that their kid is a spoiled cheater who isn’t Ivy League material? Who in their right mind admits this kid now?
Kids are gonna be dumb as rocks these days.
Good, AI is a tool and you need to learn how to use it.