Nationalism is just a larger grouping of tribalism.Â
Nothing inherently good about it, fuck fighting a war for someone else’s political power play.
eli4s20 on
inb4 all of the comfy westerners saying they would definitely want to die a horrible death in some cold and wet trench for their country against a world power. morons.
WesternShame1250 on
Kind of ridiculous we are sheltering so many in western nations who should be fighting for their country and even in Ukraine they are partying instead of serving ? What selfish cowardsÂ
Velasthur on
I’m neither going to condone or condemn this behaviour by the authorities. But it’s a terrible thing to have to constantly look over your shoulder as a Ukrainian male of draft age. I’ve contact with 3 such men, and none of them goes outside their homes unless it’s for work or absolutely necessary.
chesser45 on
I’m not sure I love my country enough to fight for it specifically. A wider threat against the west maybe.
BoodaSRK on
Ugh. Terrible dilemma. If you don’t have troops, you can’t defend your country, and you can’t have children. If you’re going out and effectively cockblocking them, they can’t have children.
ServantOfBeing on
Yeah, I can’t really blame any individual for wanting to skip out on being drafted into a warzone.
I also get why Ukraine has to do things like this though in the same breath.
It’s a terrible situation all the way around.
Zorthomis18 on
I watched a clip of a Ukrainian soldier getting a grenade dropped on him and screaming that he couldn’t feel his testicles. One of them got blown clear off.. being able to see this war in 4K 60fps is absolutely awful for recruiting I bet
lastfreethinker on
There is a whole group they could draft called women and I fully support giving them equal rights to die for their country.
I fully support Ukraine fighting and I believe the West needs to give Ukraine far more support, I just also think forcing people into soldiers shouldn’t stop at one sex.
CBT7commander on
This has always been the big dilemma of popular support for war.
If a country overwhelmingly supports fighting (which is the case here), but recruitment numbers simply don’t follow, is it morally justified to forcefully conscript men?
In my opinion yes, but then again I’m not the one going to die in a trench, so who gives a fuck.
This really is a solution less dilemma.
Silgad_ on
At least they’re not asking North Koreans to help in the effort like Russia is.
Ok_Simple6936 on
How can men abandon there country in its hour of greatest need ,Have they got no clue what happens if Russia wins . I am 55 not especially brave or tough but i would be countered on to join up maybe not front line but logistics ,driving supply sergeant..But i still want a gun in case we get over run .We cant all be hero’s but we can do our bit
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As if theyd make it that obvious
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Nationalism is just a larger grouping of tribalism.Â
Nothing inherently good about it, fuck fighting a war for someone else’s political power play.
inb4 all of the comfy westerners saying they would definitely want to die a horrible death in some cold and wet trench for their country against a world power. morons.
Kind of ridiculous we are sheltering so many in western nations who should be fighting for their country and even in Ukraine they are partying instead of serving ? What selfish cowardsÂ
I’m neither going to condone or condemn this behaviour by the authorities. But it’s a terrible thing to have to constantly look over your shoulder as a Ukrainian male of draft age. I’ve contact with 3 such men, and none of them goes outside their homes unless it’s for work or absolutely necessary.
I’m not sure I love my country enough to fight for it specifically. A wider threat against the west maybe.
Ugh. Terrible dilemma. If you don’t have troops, you can’t defend your country, and you can’t have children. If you’re going out and effectively cockblocking them, they can’t have children.
Yeah, I can’t really blame any individual for wanting to skip out on being drafted into a warzone.
I also get why Ukraine has to do things like this though in the same breath.
It’s a terrible situation all the way around.
I watched a clip of a Ukrainian soldier getting a grenade dropped on him and screaming that he couldn’t feel his testicles. One of them got blown clear off.. being able to see this war in 4K 60fps is absolutely awful for recruiting I bet
There is a whole group they could draft called women and I fully support giving them equal rights to die for their country.
I fully support Ukraine fighting and I believe the West needs to give Ukraine far more support, I just also think forcing people into soldiers shouldn’t stop at one sex.
This has always been the big dilemma of popular support for war.
If a country overwhelmingly supports fighting (which is the case here), but recruitment numbers simply don’t follow, is it morally justified to forcefully conscript men?
In my opinion yes, but then again I’m not the one going to die in a trench, so who gives a fuck.
This really is a solution less dilemma.
At least they’re not asking North Koreans to help in the effort like Russia is.
How can men abandon there country in its hour of greatest need ,Have they got no clue what happens if Russia wins . I am 55 not especially brave or tough but i would be countered on to join up maybe not front line but logistics ,driving supply sergeant..But i still want a gun in case we get over run .We cant all be hero’s but we can do our bit