Here’s a story I was told about the effect of blocking disabled spots. This is a long post by necessity – I apologise in advance (for the length and any formatting errors) but it has to be long to reflect the impact that " sure it’s only 2 minutes" can have on disabled people and the people who care for them. I’ve spent a significant amount of my professional life working with disabled people and this is a story a single parent (lets call her Jenny) of two children with disabilities told at a training event I attended early in my career which has always stayed with me. Some details have been changed to protect hers and her children’s identity.
Jenny lives rurally. Jenny has two children (lets call them Aidan and Claire) with physical disabilities, they’re both wheelchair users. Aidan is her older child and also has a profound intellectual disability. This is what a trip to the shops looks like for Jenny’s family. She does all the same things to get ready to go to the shops that you do. She gets dressed, grabs her handbag, her phone etc. She does this while Aidan & Claire are still asleep. Then Jenny wakes Aidan. She raises the height of his adjustable bed, rolls him to one side to remove his nightclothes and change him. Then Jenny rolls him side to side again to dress him, and then another rolling manoeuvre to place a sling under him. Jenny moves in a hoist (example of what a hoist and sling look like here), then she moves in Aidan’s wheelchair and uses the hoist to transfer him out into his chair where she puts on his splints and shoes. Then she brings him to the living room which is awkward and difficult because of the size and layout of her house and the size of the chair. There she puts on Peppa Pig to keep him entertained. Then she does all this again with Claire but Claire is younger, lighter and more mobile and is able to do a bit more for herself. But Jenny is frequently obliged to leave Claire to check on Aidan who gets distressed easily.
Jenny then hopes it isn’t raining, goes out to the car and lowers its wheelchair ramp. Then she puts out a foldable ramp on the front step and manoeuvres Aidan in his large and heavy power chair down this ramp and then onto and up the car ramp where she secures it in place using built in hooks and straps before raising the car ramp back up again. Aidan is extremely distressed by this entire process and often hits and scratches Jenny. She then puts on Peppa Pig music to try and keep him calm and goes to get Claire. This time she is bringing a lighter wheelchair down the ramp and instead lifts Claire from her wheelchair into the car. It is not an easy lift, she is risking injury to them both by doing it and she definitely cannot do it forever because Claire is getting bigger and heavier as she gets older but this is the car they have right now. She then removes the wheels and footplates from Claire’s wheelchair, collapses it down and stows it in the car. From the point when both children are dressed it takes Jenny about 45 minutes to get them both into the car.
Now they get where they were planning to go (e.g. their nearest supermarket is a 30 minute drive). When they are out and about Claire moves around in her wheelchair independently and Jenny moves Aidan in his power chair. But there’s no disabled parking when they get to their destination, there are only two disabled spots and a BMW has parked across them both. Jenny can’t park in a non-disabled spot because she can’t lift Claire out without the door being open fully. She can’t put Claire in her wheelchair because she can’t fit the wheelchair up alongside the car and she isn’t able to carry Claire any further than the brief lift from car to chair. Jenny can’t just take Aidan out because she can’t get the ramp down at the back of the car because the parking spot isn’t deep enough and she’d have to do a 10-15 minute procedure while blocking traffic around her while Aidan is in distress. And then Claire would be left in the car alone anyway. She can’t park far away in a spot with no cars around it because she can’t guarantee someone won’t park next to them while they’re inside. Plus it’s hard for Claire to get her wheelchair across a car park with lumps and bumps and drains and slopes.
Jenny can’t leave the children unattended to go find the BMW driver because Aidan could become very distressed and is sitting right next to Claire who he may injure if left alone unsupervised, even if she was prepared for potential conflict with the owner of the BMW. She can’t wait for the driver to come back because Aidan is getting increasingly distressed and she has no way of knowing if they will be in there for two minutes or two hours. So instead of going to the pharmacy or getting groceries Jenny turns around, drives 30 minutes back home and repeats the leaving the house process in reverse and that’s 2.5 hours of their day gone for nothing, on top of all the physical labour Jenny puts into the process and the distress it causes her children. Aidan is exhausted and agitated, Claire is frustrated, humiliated and disappointed. Jenny is tired and angry and sad for her children.
tl:dr – Your 2 minute nip into the shop can have an incredible impact on a disabled person – please do not block disable spots. My answer to every justification and rationalisation and "what if" or "why doesn’t she" reply you’re thinking of posting to this is "Stop being a selfish cunt and just walk the extra 15m, you need the exercise anyway."
What blocking disabled parking spots means
byu/HeterochromiasMa inireland
Posted by HeterochromiasMa
15 Comments
I for one anticipate a reasoned and thought provoking discussion.
The vast majority of times a disabled spot is taken up by poor parking it affects no one.
I’m not defending people blocking parking but the outrage and usual crowd taking pictures of every single example of it happening is over the top. Especially when the traffic is low for example early morning or late at night. And there’s examples where you can’t see if someone is sitting in the car/van so maybe there’s someone in that van and if someone did come and stop to go into the parking space, they’d simply do it.
I sometimes can’t find space to park while a passenger goes into the shop in my town so I block a parked car in and if they get into their car I move and let them out.
And for OP stating the importance of 2 minutes, what about all the traffic and traffic lights on the way to the shop? Far longer delays than 2 minutes.
Yes, let’s stop people parking in disabled spots when they aren’t but also, let’s not treat it like it’s one of societies burning issues.
I do enjoy peoples love for car parking spaces though. Surprised they aren’t shaming disabled people into using public transport.
A small percentage of drivers are just incredibly ignorant and do not care how their actions affect others. Probably less than 5% of drivers block footpaths/entrances/cycle lanes or take up disabled spaces when parking, but those 5% of drivers have an outsized effect on vulnerable road and footpath users.
Sure they’ll only be a minute
Look into delivery options? This is a lot of effort when it could be dropped to your door.
I don’t know why they let disabled people drive anyway isn’t it a safety hazard?
Only messing.
You’re a scumbag if you take up a parking space or block a parking space meant for an elderly or disabled person who could be injured or have extreme difficulty getting basic things done (including picking up medicine) using a parking spot that’s further away.
> Stop being a selfish cunt and just walk the extra 15m
Even if it’s in front of closed shops at 3 in the morning?
Also good to point out not all disabilities are visible straight away and a person may need a disabled spot for themselves. My aunt has MS and is at the stage were if there’s no disabled spot outside she’s going to have to do the turn around and go home routine and go back later. It’s not a laziness on my aunts part, she ran marathons before the MS took it from her, it absolutely kills her that a longer walk across the car park to the shop could be the difference between falling flat on her face in the supermarket or not. The amount of abuse she’s got for even parking in one of the spots because she’s not in a wheelchair (unfortunately that time is probably going to come but she’s stubbornly against it) – she’s even been threatened on one occasion and was asked to show her blue badge as proof she needed it.
LPT: Take all this time ya cunts are spending on thinking of the most obscure edge case scenarios to defend/justify this shitty behaviour, and use it instead to find a parking spot
Anyone defending that van this morning needs to take a long hard look at themselves
bUt WhAt If hE wAs gEtTiNg a CoFfeE?
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30937990.html
There should be a statue of him, not a custodial sentence.
If you park in a disabled spot illegally, your car should be towed and crushed. Absolute scum.
When I worked in Suoerquinn doing the trollies back in the day I would always manage to hit those cars accidentally with my line of trollies, such a shame..
Now I’m older I have a habit of tripping up near them with my keys out. I’m so clumsy.
Even if it was only two minutes, taking up two spots is just deliberate asshole behaviour.
Having worked in disability and spinal injury in the earliest parts of my career (20years ago) I cannot agree more.
I have never before or after doing my degree taken up a parent/child space or a disability space and had no idea this was so rampant until I became a physio and later a parent. From the NRH we would practice going with new WC users to Cornelscourt Dunnes.
This was before they had so many disability spaces to the right of the entrance. Holy God, 3 times out of 5 there was someone blocking more than one space or people without a badge blocking more than 2-3 of the 5 spaces that were available at the time. I genuinely could not believe how often this happened.
Where does the entitlement and obliviousness come from for this?