Curious what people think of / feel about this as it’s obviously a very controversial religion.
For the unaware, Mormon temples are generally big, fancy (read: gaudy) looking buildings that only ‘worthy’ Mormons are allowed into where they do vicarious baptisms for dead people, seal married couples, and do the big endowment ceremony where members can receive their magic underwear garments.
There are about 4k members in Ireland (according to the Mormon church’s figures) but there’s only about 1k total active members. Maybe there are some current / ex- Mormons here willing to share their opinions?
Edit: here’s a link to the announcement: https://www.thechurchnews.com/temples/2024/10/06/new-temple-locations-announced-president-nelson-october-2024-general-conference/
Temples are a MASSIVE deal in Mormonism btw. These are not your ordinary church building / meeting house.
Mormon temple announced for Ireland
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People can believe in whatever they want. It doesn’t affect me so I won’t be paying it any attention. (I mean this genuinely, I’m not trying to sound snarky)
If we can’t get planning permissions for apartments then I doubt this thing will get built. NIMBY’s out in force 😉
It won’t affect me at all, so I really don’t care.
The church we have did far fucking worse
It’s a load of bollix Religion. Isint it….
I find Mormon history and doctrine really interesting. Very impressive people in a lot of ways.
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Not really comfortable with religions that venerate known paedophiles.
Yeah lots of religions have had abuse scandals. But if your religion was founded by a paedophile and you accept that, that’s bad.
Don’t care for Mormonism but eh
It’s not a religion, it’s a social club for losers.
They gonna have a shop to sell their magic underwear?
Can we just keep religion out of Ireland in general, we’re only really a few decades out from under the Catholic church, there’s still the Catholic Protestant divide in the north, and those poxy cult lords the Scientologists are running rampant in tallaght, do we really need more fucking tax dodging religions setting up shop? Not just the Mormons, any of these fucking religions, keep it in your house.
Let them build what they want. They have every right to practice their religion like everyone else on the island
It’s actually a very well run organisation. They are super family centric. Sunday service used to be 3 hours long, it changed around pandemic time, now I think it’s like only 1 hour.
They have lots of meetings for families. They have socials for young adults. And instead of encouraging people to spend their twenties sleeping around with different partners, they encourage people to marry young and grow together. They have lots of family dinners. Group sports, etc. They also prohibit alcohol. These reasons are exactly why I’m NOT part of them. I’m a massive degenerate and I own it. I drink, I tinder, a little bit of blow here and there, I’m plastered with tattoos, and I’m in a poly relationship with two lesbians. Not my cup of tea.
Everything but apartments 😭
Yanks out
People are free to believe in whatever shit they like. The only reason Mormonism is controversial is because it’s relatively new.
If Zombie Jesus and Mohamed and his magical flying horse happened a couple hundred years ago, instead of over 2,000 in the case of Jesus and 1,300 in the case of Mohamed, mainstream Christianity and Islam would not be afforded the same respect they enjoy today.
For whatever reason, time makes bullshit seem more legitimate.
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Good luck getting planning permission for that one. Any religious building tends to be contentious because of traffic and noise.
Of course, if we take the ‘Dublin’ part of it as equaling ‘somewhere in the Republic of Ireland because we’re clueless’ then yeah, maybe they will find a field somewhere in the BMW that they can make their own…..
Fact, prior to 11/9/2001, the worst terrorist attack on American soil was perpetrated by Mormons, they slaughtered a group of around 140 emigrants, men, women and children. Coincidentally this also happened on 11 September, but in the year 1957.
Their early prophets married multiple women at the same time, often underage, in some cases while they were married to other men.
Up until recently, Mormons would take blood oaths in these temples, mainly to pray for vengeance for their murdered prophets. Their first prophet was murdered by a mob when jailed for burning down the printing press that was publishing stories on his crimes. They moved west into what is now Utah and were briefly at war with the United States.
Their founder basically wrote a book on which their religion is found on, his father also wrote a book prior to that and attempted to found a religion, most the stories were copied over from there. “Coincidentally” his grandfather also wrote a book and started a religion, he claimed to have had 7 visions in which he spoke to angels and/or god. This same claim was made by the founder of Mormonism. Fun fact, he was convicted many times for fraud, theft and racketeering. His father for the same, including forging currency.
Their extended family travelled from city to city to escape local mobs and law enforcers. Both father and son made multiple escapes from jail, something the mob that eventually killed him was wary of.
Bonus fact, he tried to run for president of the United States and for a brief period he would have been in command of the entire American army if the Mexican war had broken out sooner. This was because after being chased out of Missouri with an extermination order against them, they formed the nauvoo legion, an army that rivaled the national army at that time. In an attempt to create loyal ties between both forces and to gain the Mormon vote for election, the government in Washington provided their prophet with one of their highest military ranks.
Ties to Ireland, through DNA testing, it was established that they came from Ireland as early as the 17th century.
Dum dum dum dum dumb
Good luck. They’re…an interesting bunch, that’s all I can really say.
To be completely honest. We should treat all religions and cults equally. No influence in school or government. Strong education on cultish behaviours from an early age.
Run as private organisations. But no. I don’t believe we restrict people’s right to join cults and try build places to do their silly shite.
We have far too long of a history of it to restrict other people’s freedoms.
We gotta ensure little to no people are dumb enough to join instead unfortunately.
Magic underwear? That sounds frigging cool! I’m in
(Disclaimer: not a Mormon. Most of my knowledge of their theology comes from The Book of Mormon musical and Battlestar Galactica, I am however an aficionado of religion architecture. This is not an endorsement of their somewhat unusual theology or their downright shameful stance against LGBTQ and paedophile protection emulating the Catholic Church.)
So, one cool thing that the curious should do is see if they’re gonna do tours when it’s done but before it’s consecrated. An open house basically.
After they consecrate it or whatnot, only baptised Mormons with Temple privileges are allowed in.
But oftentimes, they let the public in to see it before it’s made special.
If you’ve a penchant for learning about other religions and mythologies like I have, it’s worth doing. Though you will have to fend off a few attempts at proselytism. But at least when I was visiting my sister in America and it just happened to be happening, they were pretty respectful of “I’ve got my own religion, I’m happy with it, but I like learning about others and I’ve always been curious what’s inside.”
The damn things are usually architecturally beautiful and really nicely decorated.
I also recommend the Baha’i Temple [next time you’re in Chicago](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bah%C3%A1%CA%BC%C3%AD_House_of_Worship_(Wilmette,_Illinois))
Theres been a mormon temple in Cork for about 40 years. You wouldn’t know it was a temple if you passed it.