Ontario man shocked when engine not covered under warranty due to ‘over revving’

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-man-shocked-when-engine-not-covered-under-warranty-due-to-over-revving-1.7058376

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  1. > For the past three months, the car has been sitting at a Hyundai dealership because after reviewing the vehicle’s data through the engine control unit, it was determined the car had been abused and the engine had been red-lined multiple times.

    >Matzoros told CTV News he has taken the car several times to the Toronto Motorsports Park at Cayuga to race the quarter mile.

    Idiot.

  2. The funniest part is the first paragraph:

    A Pickering, Ont., student going to **college to be a mechanic** is shocked the engine in his two-year-old car will not be repaired under warranty after the dealership claimed he had been “over-revving” the engine.

  3. Are you trying to tell me it doesn’t have a rev limiter from factory? Going up to redline should be no issue. If it can’t handle the set redline that redline needs to be reduced

  4. >Limiter is at 6700 rpm. 7200 (+500) rpm is the maximum limit of an overrev covered by warranty.

    Found this after a quick search.

  5. Saw this earlier…guy money shifted at some point, ECU doesn’t lie, might not have blown up the engine on the money shift, but it damaged something that caused eventual failure.

    (money shift = wrong gear at high speed with manual trans)

  6. Garbage_Billy_Goat on

    Dear kid. You bought a car that you thought was a race car. But it’s not.
    You also bought the extended warranty thinking Hyundai would replace whatever you break while racing your not a race car. But they won’t. Today’s lesson is. It’s not a race car, and You’re not a big dawg because you bought extended warranty . Just a sucker.

  7. It’s shocking how people can be this stupid. How would you expect a company to suddenly start paying for damage caused by abuse? It doesn’t matter if it’s a performance model, it still has limits. You can’t repeatedly redline a race engine either without damaging it. The redline means the engine can’t handle that speed.

    Also, what sort of genius thinks they can race their daily driver and still have it last a decent amount of time? Racing is by definition abusive to a car. Someone’s watched too much Fast and Furious.

  8. Red line is put in place because engineers consider it’s the safe upper operating range of an engine. You should be able to red line it as much as you want and still be covered by warranty; because the manufacturer was the one who built the car to rev at 7k rpm and sold it to you saying it is safe to do so.

  9. This is pretty black and white in my opinion. Is over revving a clause in the warranty contract? If not they should be covering, and if they won’t he should sue.

  10. BredYourWoman on

    The Elantra “N” (not to be confused with “N-Line” which is basically a kinda sporty commuter daily) is basically a “I can’t afford an actual performance car” vehicle, which is why a lot of really young people buy them. They aren’t really built to stand up to a real performance car despite the misleading marketing. The only way I’d ever take one of those N’s to a track is if I had F-U money to throw it away and bought it just for the hell of it. On a side note, you’d also be an idiot to ever buy a used one for obvious reasons (yes I know this one wasn’t used, just sayin’). There’s a ton of wannabe racerbois driving cars like this into the ground nowadays and then trading them in

  11. * N Line isn’t a track car. It’s Hyundai’s performance line for standard cars.
    * There is no warranty that is going to cover you redlining your car multiple times.
    * It doesn’t matter when the engine failed, redlining the car on multiple occasions is going to cause wear on parts that will eventually fail due to that premature damage.
    * To redline an Elantra N line he would have had to turn off all protection features, even with a manual transmission.
    * Redlining your car isn’t good. It means he is bad at driving.
    * He redlined an Elantra N multiple times by 40,000 KM. My guess is he did it before the engine even passed it’s break in period. Which a scan tool will be able to tell.

    This guy is an idiot who knows nothing about cars and didn’t read his warranty, and didn’t buy a real track car. To put it in perspective the 2021 Accord 2.0 has 50 more HP and 20 more pound foot of torque and is advertised as a family sedan (although it’s a sleeper obviously).

  12. Constant_Subject_123 on

    Easy there big foot, what do you expect. My car is also warrantied but not quite if I drive it into Lake Ontario. I hope they don’t fix anything for you. I hate when customers misuse my products or installs and cry about warranty. I’m sorry but you were trying to do chin ups on my 1/2 copper line, no I won’t re install it for free!!

  13. I’ve taken my car to the track. You cant just show up, track and leave lol. The car has to be prepared a bit in advance. At the very minimum, you need to change out the oil for an ultra-heavy duty one like Liqui-Moly or Royal Purple. Thats why that oil is so expensive lol. You can run the engine red hot and the oil wont degrade. Regular oils like Penzoil or Mobil will degrade if subject to continuous hard engine use instead of occasional hard use. And fill up with Premium otherwise you might get an evap related check engine light.

    At at the very most, you spend a week on the car changing the fluids and greasing everything. The friends i have who go to the track all the time used to invite me to the track and to the car preparations and we’d spend hours adjusting, tuning, cleaning, ect all the various suspension parts, ect on our cars days before the event. And we dont have Supras and Skylines lol this was about a BMW E30 and a 2006 Mazda3. But if you dont prepare it, the car breaks.

    Also, quick tip. If your RPM gage has 10,11,12 at the end of it with the redline at 8 or 9, thats an engine meant to be operated at higher revvs and one that you can rev until it hits the cutoff. If you have one where the redline begins at 6, like in this Elantra, thats an engine meant for torque at low RPMs. its not good for the car to hit the rev limiter in a low RPM engine.

  14. Doesn’t matter if he lost by an inch or a mile…losing is losing.

    And for all those who are suggesting that this is marketed as a track car, if you look at the product page, wording is often on the lines of “race inspired”. Yes, they have a video on the page of it going around a track. This guy did quarter mile pulls. Very different in terms of the stresses on the vehicle. Also keep in mind that the Nuremburg is open to the public and people drive RVs and delivery vehicles on it. Track driving is very different from flat lined quarter mile.

    Guy didn’t read the warranty limitations, drove the car far too hard in situations it honestly was not intended to do, and got burned. Don’t know why this even got on the news other than to warn others to be aware of what the warranty actually covers and don’t drive your stock factory car far harder than it was designed to do.

  15. So a money shift is not covered under warranty? Yeah, no kidding. Driver error isn’t exactly what one would expect to be covered under your typical extended warranty. This is such a nothing-burger of a story. A good way to avoid over revving is to drive properly.