Looks like Microsoft will have lots of top tallent to steal from competitors. Smart move from a company focused on a large number of remote work tools and decentralization of the office.
SHODAN117 on
I call bull shit. Productivity will rise and there will be an RTO mandate anyway.
blingmaster009 on
This guy has been great for Microsoft, really turned the company around. Sundar Pichai on the other hand has been a disaster for google. All we have seen is 10 years of google enshittification.
Varnigma on
Next week…..”We’ve investigated and found productivity has dropped (based on metrics we won’t actually disclose).”
SloppyMeathole on
Or until they need to do layoffs without actually announcing layoffs. Then Microsoft will suddenly embrace in office work. Everybody sees through the bullshit at this point. Work from home was never about productivity or employee well-being, it’s about control.
BrofessorFarnsworth on
This is the right answer. There’s never been any data suggesting that the productivity fell off from WFH.
kkenymc7877 on
And that last part is exactly what they’ll use in a few months when they announce their return to work mandate
Knerd5 on
Perfect move to poach talent
TheRedGerund on
Productivity is very hard to measure. We need to stop calling metrics and start calling them statistics, because that better connotes just how much bullshit you can accomplish with them.
Elevator-Fun on
Productivity hasn’t changed since WFH started, why the fuck would it change suddenly now? At least Microsoft is doing the logical thing here.
DctrGizmo on
Wow some good news for once.
icebeat on
For some reason I just received a number of open positions on Microsoft for senior all remote. Curious
NickCanCode on
And then productivity drops as they say in a few months…
morbihann on
Yeah, if productivity drops I do not think RTO is going to be the answer.
Used_Visual5300 on
MS is the inventor of the ‘new world of work’ and the top seller of the software you need to work from home. We can stop using teams when working in the office, right? Right? RIGHT??
REDNOOK on
They mandated 3/5 days in office already. The rise of Unions within their company probably plays a big part in this.
CaregiverOk2946 on
How do they measure productivity? MS stock has gone up 200% over the last 5 years. Are employees not working hard enough for executives to hoard more money at the top?
getSome010 on
If productivity drops I don’t think being in office makes the productivity go up
fabulousfizban on
Won’t be a return to office regardless if workers show solidarity.
Kayge on
For those who don’t truly understand the shift in Microsoft’s thinking under Satya Nadella has been astounding. Technical and partnerships aside, HR’s seen a massive change.
When he came in to Microsoft, they had an HR policy that ranked people across *individual teams*. Managers were ***mandated*** to put:
– 20% “Exceeded”
– 60% “Met”
– 20% “Below”
Of course, that ranking effected your teams’ raises, bonus and promotions. You happen to have the 2 best engineers at all of Microsoft on your 5 person team? Guess you need to figure out who is the “Met” is then.
High fliers quickly figured out the game. If you were in “exceeded”, stay put. Joining another team – especially one with a really talented colleague – could potentially bump you down a level. So you’d politly decline.
The net result was Microsoft couldn’t ever get 2 really good people to work with each other.
Now they’re the ones bucking the “get back to work trend” so long as people are getting their shit done? It’s pretty amazing to see for us old folks.
Goetia- on
Nice caveat. Productivity is dropping as we speak.
doofnoobler on
And what happens if they enact it and productivity drops even more?
mordecai98 on
So a veiled threat.
ReieaMK3 on
This is how you pick up top talent from other companies.
OhfursureJim on
“Microsoft exec threatens RTO if employees fail to maintain productivity levels” Alternate spin title
BookwormBlake on
Smart CEO. Mine has said the same thing. As long as we’re productive, there is no reason to have everyone in the office five days a week.
Interesting_Fly_769 on
Andy jassy is gonna destroy Amazon and it’s probably a good thing.
sometimesifeellikemu on
I bet it won’t.
raining_sheep on
This is all you have to say as an exec. Just get your fucking work done and you get to keep the perks that don’t cost the company money
thatfreshjive on
The commercial real estate boomerang is returning
TransporterAccident_ on
Super smart. Dangle a carrot to keep and attract talent.
scientifick on
Sorry, not a tech worker, but isn’t Microsoft known for solid and fair compensation but excellent WLB? While Amazon is known for amazing compensation, but a major burnout risk anyway?
If that’s true it seems like it’s fairly consistent with the culture.
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Looks like Microsoft will have lots of top tallent to steal from competitors. Smart move from a company focused on a large number of remote work tools and decentralization of the office.
I call bull shit. Productivity will rise and there will be an RTO mandate anyway.
This guy has been great for Microsoft, really turned the company around. Sundar Pichai on the other hand has been a disaster for google. All we have seen is 10 years of google enshittification.
Next week…..”We’ve investigated and found productivity has dropped (based on metrics we won’t actually disclose).”
Or until they need to do layoffs without actually announcing layoffs. Then Microsoft will suddenly embrace in office work. Everybody sees through the bullshit at this point. Work from home was never about productivity or employee well-being, it’s about control.
This is the right answer. There’s never been any data suggesting that the productivity fell off from WFH.
And that last part is exactly what they’ll use in a few months when they announce their return to work mandate
Perfect move to poach talent
Productivity is very hard to measure. We need to stop calling metrics and start calling them statistics, because that better connotes just how much bullshit you can accomplish with them.
Productivity hasn’t changed since WFH started, why the fuck would it change suddenly now? At least Microsoft is doing the logical thing here.
Wow some good news for once.
For some reason I just received a number of open positions on Microsoft for senior all remote. Curious
And then productivity drops as they say in a few months…
Yeah, if productivity drops I do not think RTO is going to be the answer.
MS is the inventor of the ‘new world of work’ and the top seller of the software you need to work from home. We can stop using teams when working in the office, right? Right? RIGHT??
They mandated 3/5 days in office already. The rise of Unions within their company probably plays a big part in this.
How do they measure productivity? MS stock has gone up 200% over the last 5 years. Are employees not working hard enough for executives to hoard more money at the top?
If productivity drops I don’t think being in office makes the productivity go up
Won’t be a return to office regardless if workers show solidarity.
For those who don’t truly understand the shift in Microsoft’s thinking under Satya Nadella has been astounding. Technical and partnerships aside, HR’s seen a massive change.
When he came in to Microsoft, they had an HR policy that ranked people across *individual teams*. Managers were ***mandated*** to put:
– 20% “Exceeded”
– 60% “Met”
– 20% “Below”
Of course, that ranking effected your teams’ raises, bonus and promotions. You happen to have the 2 best engineers at all of Microsoft on your 5 person team? Guess you need to figure out who is the “Met” is then.
High fliers quickly figured out the game. If you were in “exceeded”, stay put. Joining another team – especially one with a really talented colleague – could potentially bump you down a level. So you’d politly decline.
The net result was Microsoft couldn’t ever get 2 really good people to work with each other.
Now they’re the ones bucking the “get back to work trend” so long as people are getting their shit done? It’s pretty amazing to see for us old folks.
Nice caveat. Productivity is dropping as we speak.
And what happens if they enact it and productivity drops even more?
So a veiled threat.
This is how you pick up top talent from other companies.
“Microsoft exec threatens RTO if employees fail to maintain productivity levels” Alternate spin title
Smart CEO. Mine has said the same thing. As long as we’re productive, there is no reason to have everyone in the office five days a week.
Andy jassy is gonna destroy Amazon and it’s probably a good thing.
I bet it won’t.
This is all you have to say as an exec. Just get your fucking work done and you get to keep the perks that don’t cost the company money
The commercial real estate boomerang is returning
Super smart. Dangle a carrot to keep and attract talent.
Sorry, not a tech worker, but isn’t Microsoft known for solid and fair compensation but excellent WLB? While Amazon is known for amazing compensation, but a major burnout risk anyway?
If that’s true it seems like it’s fairly consistent with the culture.