>The automotive industry is in the midst of a shift towards electric vehicles, and the European Union has been, at least for a while, a key driver of this change with its ambitious plan to ban the sale of new combustion engine cars starting in 2035.
>This policy faced recent pushback from some automakers and member states, but now a coalition of 50 companies, led by Volvo, is pressing the EU to stay the course.
Paul_Ch91 on
Bullshit
tapk68 on
Jokes on them i just traded my car for a camel 🐫 he consumes only 200 liters of water and lasts a whole week without refills.
SanTomasdAquin on
Stop this madness! Let the customers decide what they want without any stupid regulation.
Kyrond on
It is more important for policy to be consistent than exact. Maybe it would have been better to make it 2038 or in 5 years we might realize it should have been 2033.
We can’t push it back now. There are European companies that are investing into R&D and making and recycling batteries in EU with the knowledge that 2035 is 100% EVs. If we push it back, we will punish the companies that are innovating the most and reward the companies which don’t invest and instead lobby lawmakers.
Just as a heads up Volvo is mostly owned by Geely a Chinese car company so they want to go ahead with electric so china can dominate the electric car industry.
Don’t by Chinese don’t buy Volvo
Middle_Trouble_7884 on
The ice ban doesn’t make sense. It’s fine to advocate for non-polluting options, but it’s not acceptable to dictate how to achieve that, as there are other carbon-neutral technologies worth exploring. Saying “no” to everything but electric cars seems like a political move to benefit the automotive industry in China. I wonder how many received money based on their votes. We’ve seen reports of Qatar and Morocco giving money to EU parliament and commission members, so isn’t it curious that no one is considering that China, a much larger and more influential country, might be doing the same?
CoriousIguana on
No reason to turn back now
Also 2035 is ten years from now, it’s not like some companies don’t have time to do it: they just don’t want to
SaluteMaestro on
Sod that. Ev’s have a place they shouldn’t be the only option.
Some_Vermicelli80 on
Why they keep saying that EVs are VWAG’s problem? LoL. It’s not the EVs, it’s how to company is set up. Where VW had Golf before now they have what, 6 models in the same price range. How many factories and production lines you need to set up to produce 6 lines of cars. Now add other brands… Look how they set the charging for EVs; Skoda, VW, Audi, Seat, despite being in the same group and even being the same car (MEB), have each their own charging subscription networks which are all identical! They overcomplicated everything! Elli, owned by VWAG, produces home chargers, and the same charger is branded in 5-6 different ways! What the f.?!
garbagecan1992 on
hahahahaha someone somewhere must be happy with a forced reset of the car market by forcing ICE out. market was ” saturated ” with used cars afterall, can t have that
hecho2 on
The ICE ban doesn’t make much sense. Would be more reasonable ICE ban to company owner car fleets and selected city centers and that’s it.
Also some counties are all in on EV, some brands as well, keeping ICE it’s bad long term for those brands event if gives you short term gains.
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>The automotive industry is in the midst of a shift towards electric vehicles, and the European Union has been, at least for a while, a key driver of this change with its ambitious plan to ban the sale of new combustion engine cars starting in 2035.
>This policy faced recent pushback from some automakers and member states, but now a coalition of 50 companies, led by Volvo, is pressing the EU to stay the course.
Bullshit
Jokes on them i just traded my car for a camel 🐫 he consumes only 200 liters of water and lasts a whole week without refills.
Stop this madness! Let the customers decide what they want without any stupid regulation.
It is more important for policy to be consistent than exact. Maybe it would have been better to make it 2038 or in 5 years we might realize it should have been 2033.
We can’t push it back now. There are European companies that are investing into R&D and making and recycling batteries in EU with the knowledge that 2035 is 100% EVs. If we push it back, we will punish the companies that are innovating the most and reward the companies which don’t invest and instead lobby lawmakers.
Also [we aren’t alone](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase-out_of_fossil_fuel_vehicles#Countries). China, Taiwan, Japan are all also targetting 2035, it’s an achievable target.
Just as a heads up Volvo is mostly owned by Geely a Chinese car company so they want to go ahead with electric so china can dominate the electric car industry.
Don’t by Chinese don’t buy Volvo
The ice ban doesn’t make sense. It’s fine to advocate for non-polluting options, but it’s not acceptable to dictate how to achieve that, as there are other carbon-neutral technologies worth exploring. Saying “no” to everything but electric cars seems like a political move to benefit the automotive industry in China. I wonder how many received money based on their votes. We’ve seen reports of Qatar and Morocco giving money to EU parliament and commission members, so isn’t it curious that no one is considering that China, a much larger and more influential country, might be doing the same?
No reason to turn back now
Also 2035 is ten years from now, it’s not like some companies don’t have time to do it: they just don’t want to
Sod that. Ev’s have a place they shouldn’t be the only option.
Why they keep saying that EVs are VWAG’s problem? LoL. It’s not the EVs, it’s how to company is set up. Where VW had Golf before now they have what, 6 models in the same price range. How many factories and production lines you need to set up to produce 6 lines of cars. Now add other brands… Look how they set the charging for EVs; Skoda, VW, Audi, Seat, despite being in the same group and even being the same car (MEB), have each their own charging subscription networks which are all identical! They overcomplicated everything! Elli, owned by VWAG, produces home chargers, and the same charger is branded in 5-6 different ways! What the f.?!
hahahahaha someone somewhere must be happy with a forced reset of the car market by forcing ICE out. market was ” saturated ” with used cars afterall, can t have that
The ICE ban doesn’t make much sense. Would be more reasonable ICE ban to company owner car fleets and selected city centers and that’s it.
Also some counties are all in on EV, some brands as well, keeping ICE it’s bad long term for those brands event if gives you short term gains.