They want us to buy new, so they make them worse ? I don’t get it. I stand by my decision to not buy a car that’s newer than 2017.
rnilf on
Scumbag Mazda took away remote start from the key fob so they could funnel more people towards their connected services subscription.
Jamming a product full of unnecessary tech to squeeze more money out of consumers, a tale as old as…well, the past couple decades or so.
What a terrible time it’s been.
LeekTerrible on
This is something I would like to see legislation against. It should be illegal to purchase something that expensive and then have hardware features gated behind subscription. I would be ok with software services within the infotainment system or various reporting features etc but anything like this can fuck right off.
itsjustaride24 on
Sounds awful anyway and given a growing trend of thieves intercepting remote signals to steal cars I wouldn’t want any remote features on a new car anyway until they figure this out.
loululu_tangelo on
Louis Rossmann does an exceptional job exposing shady business practices. I’m glad he addressed this issue. Mazda is putting out quality vehicles at reasonable prices, but it’s disappointing to see them tarnish that reputation by turning standard features into subscription services. Shame on Mazda and any company that forces unnecessary subscriptions onto consumers.
loululu_tangelo on
Exactly why I plan on buying a remote start kit soon anyways. Love the car, but I’d much rather buy a one time plug and play unit than a dumb subscription
oakleez on
At least they have an option… I’m here with my Audi and my only option is to spend about $800 if I want remote start. Bleh.
nadmaximus on
I’m not going to subscribe to any features, and I’m not going to subsidize their subscription model by paying for disabled hardware. I wouldn’t pay for remote start in the first place.
iMogal on
This situation is only going to get worse. Not better. Be prepared to get screwed over with a subscription on everything the corps think they can get away with.
I’m keeping my DUMB car as long as I possibly can.
Past-Raccoon8224 on
Car companies that make subscription anything for the car deserve to be hacked into oblivion. If its installed in the car im using it. Dont hide shit with subscription crap. We hack the system
Cliff_Johnson555 on
whats next for $10 per month, unlock your AC, and heat?
ForsakenRacism on
I understand if it’s a small fee so I can start my car via cellular. Is that what this is?
Andrige3 on
As somebody who was considering a Mazda for their next car, this really pushes me away from the brand. I hope I’m not alone. I want companies to start learning how maintain lifelong customers not increase profits for the next quarter.
MahaloMerky on
I bought a Mazda recently, the worst part is they gave me 3 free years of the app, and then went back on it.
TapTheMic on
The worst part is the government has zero incentive to change this.
They want fewer people driving. They would prefer you get annoyed at cars and choose to use public transit over buying another vehicle. So they’d never go after car companies for making cars unappealing.
BannedByRWNJs on
This is the thing people still aren’t understanding about the move to EVs — there’s too much control from the manufacturers. Imagine if all of the complaints about iPhones getting slow and glitchy when the new model comes out, but it was cars…
Mean_Alternative1651 on
The subscription model for basic features is destroying the market. What a joke.
rrhunt28 on
I bought a Mazda years go and I had an issue. Turns out lots of people had the same issue. The clutch in the first Gen Mazda 6s did not seem strong enough for the power it made. People all over the country had clutches failing way before they should. There was also premature rusting in certain places on the car. Mazda really didn’t care. They claimed the rust was a “stain” and release a service built-in. I had a spot under the hood where the negative battery terminal connected. I had to make a new ground spot and the car only had like 80k miles when this happened. And I don’t live in the north.
Impossible-Set9809 on
That sucks. Hate to see mazda go for that bullshit. My 2010 mazda had zero nonsense in it. Everything worked simply the way you would expect it to. It didn’t even have an oil change reminder light to bother you. Just drove great. Had it for 12 years and only put batteries, gas, oil and spark plugs in it.
Large_Mud4438 on
Thank you Toyota and BMW, but let’s not forget the scum company that started it was most likely Acti-f-vision.
Lower-Grapefruit8807 on
I will never, ever, under any circumstances pay a subscription for my car
james_phan on
Seems like a lot of the car companies are still trying to pursue this subscription bs. Didn’t they see what happened when Mercedes tried it?
What’s gonna be next on their list? Subscription package for the brake and seatbelts?
roguewotah on
How long before these are behind paywall
5th gear and above
Rear view auto dimming
Screen wiper usage
Throttle above 50%
Heated side mirrors
Parallel parkings per month
ABS engaged per month
ESC engaged per month
Sunroof usage
Rear doors usage
Trunk usage
More I could think of but dont want to give these companies more ideas
AnotherUsername901 on
How the hell is any of this legal.
Never thought I would have to jail break a vehicle or find crack’s for one but here we are.
chronomagnus on
I have a 2019 and my 3 year trial lasted about 5 years…
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They want us to buy new, so they make them worse ? I don’t get it. I stand by my decision to not buy a car that’s newer than 2017.
Scumbag Mazda took away remote start from the key fob so they could funnel more people towards their connected services subscription.
Jamming a product full of unnecessary tech to squeeze more money out of consumers, a tale as old as…well, the past couple decades or so.
What a terrible time it’s been.
This is something I would like to see legislation against. It should be illegal to purchase something that expensive and then have hardware features gated behind subscription. I would be ok with software services within the infotainment system or various reporting features etc but anything like this can fuck right off.
Sounds awful anyway and given a growing trend of thieves intercepting remote signals to steal cars I wouldn’t want any remote features on a new car anyway until they figure this out.
Louis Rossmann does an exceptional job exposing shady business practices. I’m glad he addressed this issue. Mazda is putting out quality vehicles at reasonable prices, but it’s disappointing to see them tarnish that reputation by turning standard features into subscription services. Shame on Mazda and any company that forces unnecessary subscriptions onto consumers.
Exactly why I plan on buying a remote start kit soon anyways. Love the car, but I’d much rather buy a one time plug and play unit than a dumb subscription
At least they have an option… I’m here with my Audi and my only option is to spend about $800 if I want remote start. Bleh.
I’m not going to subscribe to any features, and I’m not going to subsidize their subscription model by paying for disabled hardware. I wouldn’t pay for remote start in the first place.
This situation is only going to get worse. Not better. Be prepared to get screwed over with a subscription on everything the corps think they can get away with.
I’m keeping my DUMB car as long as I possibly can.
Car companies that make subscription anything for the car deserve to be hacked into oblivion. If its installed in the car im using it. Dont hide shit with subscription crap. We hack the system
whats next for $10 per month, unlock your AC, and heat?
I understand if it’s a small fee so I can start my car via cellular. Is that what this is?
As somebody who was considering a Mazda for their next car, this really pushes me away from the brand. I hope I’m not alone. I want companies to start learning how maintain lifelong customers not increase profits for the next quarter.
I bought a Mazda recently, the worst part is they gave me 3 free years of the app, and then went back on it.
The worst part is the government has zero incentive to change this.
They want fewer people driving. They would prefer you get annoyed at cars and choose to use public transit over buying another vehicle. So they’d never go after car companies for making cars unappealing.
This is the thing people still aren’t understanding about the move to EVs — there’s too much control from the manufacturers. Imagine if all of the complaints about iPhones getting slow and glitchy when the new model comes out, but it was cars…
The subscription model for basic features is destroying the market. What a joke.
I bought a Mazda years go and I had an issue. Turns out lots of people had the same issue. The clutch in the first Gen Mazda 6s did not seem strong enough for the power it made. People all over the country had clutches failing way before they should. There was also premature rusting in certain places on the car. Mazda really didn’t care. They claimed the rust was a “stain” and release a service built-in. I had a spot under the hood where the negative battery terminal connected. I had to make a new ground spot and the car only had like 80k miles when this happened. And I don’t live in the north.
That sucks. Hate to see mazda go for that bullshit. My 2010 mazda had zero nonsense in it. Everything worked simply the way you would expect it to. It didn’t even have an oil change reminder light to bother you. Just drove great. Had it for 12 years and only put batteries, gas, oil and spark plugs in it.
Thank you Toyota and BMW, but let’s not forget the scum company that started it was most likely Acti-f-vision.
I will never, ever, under any circumstances pay a subscription for my car
Seems like a lot of the car companies are still trying to pursue this subscription bs. Didn’t they see what happened when Mercedes tried it?
What’s gonna be next on their list? Subscription package for the brake and seatbelts?
How long before these are behind paywall
5th gear and above
Rear view auto dimming
Screen wiper usage
Throttle above 50%
Heated side mirrors
Parallel parkings per month
ABS engaged per month
ESC engaged per month
Sunroof usage
Rear doors usage
Trunk usage
More I could think of but dont want to give these companies more ideas
How the hell is any of this legal.
Never thought I would have to jail break a vehicle or find crack’s for one but here we are.
I have a 2019 and my 3 year trial lasted about 5 years…