On overtime pay, Trump slips up by accidentally telling the truth

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/overtime-pay-trump-slips-accidentally-telling-truth-rcna173223

48 Comments

  1. QuarkTheLatinumLord- on

    He just exposed what we’ve known all along: he and the GOP don’t actually care about the working class. It’s just talking points to them. Anyone against overtime pay is a scab and sides with the ultra rich, not with the working class.

  2. Ban-Circumcision-Now on

    It’s easy to promise no taxes in overtime pay while also wanting to get rid of overtime

    Everyone can work 80 hour weeks with no overtime pay!

  3. Sunshinehappyfeet on

    “I know a lot about overtime,” the Republican candidate boasted.

    “I hated to give overtime. I hated it. I’d get other people, I shouldn’t say this, but I’d get other people in. I wouldn’t pay.”

    Just how many of Trump’s “other people” were undocumented migrants? And knowing Trump, he probably didn’t pay them.

    Vote Blue.

  4. Queue the response:

    “Haha, he didn’t mean what he said”…

    See also:
    ”the reason I like him is he says what he means”

  5. >“I know a lot about overtime,” the Republican candidate boasted. “I hated to give overtime. I hated it. I’d get other people, I shouldn’t say this, but I’d get other people in. I wouldn’t pay.”

    See you don’t have to worry about taxes on overtime pay if you get screwed out of your overtime pay.

  6. >“I know a lot about overtime,” [the Republican candidate boasted](https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1840476603681272243). “I hated to give overtime. I hated it. I’d get other people, I shouldn’t say this, but I’d get other people in. I wouldn’t pay.”

    We know.

    Almost every business in America operates on polices just like this 😒

    That, and reducing hours to avoid paying for benefits

    And

    >The U.S. Department of Labor (DOL) estimates that approximately **72%** of employers are not in compliance with the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) which regulates overtime pay across the country.

  7. This is just another way to allocate even more of the money to the wealthy corporations, only this time in unimaginable amounts. This evil man does not care about average Americans at all.

  8. Does he have a single policy that actually would help anyone other than corporations or the rich? Madness anyone votes for this guy

  9. Project 2025 also proposed changed to OT calculations, including basing it on 2 or 4 weeks total hours, not 1. So they might not tax it, but you won’t be getting as much of it either.

    That all starts on page 592 if anyone thinks it’s made up.

  10. This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/overtime-pay-trump-slips-accidentally-telling-truth-rcna173223) reduced by 76%. (I’m a bot)
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    > Former president and current GOP nominee Donald Trump on Sunday admitted he "Hated" to pay his staff overtime and would instead replace them with other workers to avoid doing so.

    > "Donald Trump is finally owning up to it: He's built an entire career on screwing over workers," Harris-Walz spokesperson Sarafina Chitika said in a written statement.

    > "It's exactly what he did in the White House – trying to rip away tips and overtime pay for millions of workers – and exactly what he plans to do in a second term. Trump is a scab, plain and simple. He is selling snake oil lies in a desperate attempt to trick voters. He can't be trusted – workers know it, and voters know it. They'll elect a champion who has their back by voting for Vice President Harris this November.”

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  11. old_and_boring_guy on

    He has an absurd history of shafting small businesses and blue collar workers. He’s been doing it for decades.

    I never understood how that stuff alone wasn’t enough to sink him.

  12. FarAdministration148 on

    He didn’t ’accidentally’ do it. He KNEW what he was about to say shouldn’t be said, and he STILL SAID IT. It’s appalling to witness his complete inability to exercise self-restraint on a daily basis.

    EDIT: corrected a typo

  13. ButterscotchBloozDad on

    Dude’s “faux populism” has been a sham for the get go.

    THE MAGAS DON’T CARE!

    Fear and hate drive their numbers. They hate everything and everyone associated with what they have been told is “leftist” which is a monolith of everything from education to not salting one’s own earth.

    The point is that they are gone and getting psyop’d into their next devolution.

  14. You mean to tell me Trump explains one of his favorite ways of not paying vendors and saving money? Go on Donnie, this wasn’t covered at Trump U.

  15. Canucklehead_Esq on

    I shouldn’t have to say this but – why would anyone even consider voting for this monstrosity of a person?

  16. Everything he says alludes to him destroying America. He wants 20% tarrifs on all imports which effectively means +20% inflation and the death of American exports as countries are free to not buy from us. 

    Getting rid of overtime pay, means the death of American manufacturing. I work in steel. If you kill overtime, nobody would work. 80% of the guys I work with rely on overtime to have a successful life and its their overtime hours that keep our plant running. 

  17. What he’s not fully saying: he wouldn’t pay overtime, but he’d sure as he’ll make his employees work it. Not paying contractors and employees for services and hours is literally an issue with Trump known since the 80s in NY/NJ

    He specifically hired immigrant contractors to be able to more easily shaft them by threatening deportation. A group of polish contractors were able to successfully take him to court over these tactics

  18. I don’t think it was accidental at all. I think Trump is like a child trying to feel out just how far he can take things before his own side/people push back against him, I think that’s what all of this has been for the last 8 years. Turns out there are very few things they won’t push back on so he just keeps getting crazier and crazier because he revels in the notion of being able to do horrible things and get away with it. I think that’s a big driving force for him in general. He loves getting away with things and sadly a lot of the types of people who would vote for him also like the idea of getting away with things.

    They don’t think “Oh no I won’t do that because it’s bad” it’s “Oh I won’t do that because I can’t get away with it” but with Trump they seem to think maybe they can get away with it, I mean so far many of them are getting away with being horrible people.

  19. No tax on OT — because he doesn’t like paying OT and will eliminate it so NO companies have to pay it. Can’t tax what won’t exist. Glad he’s starting to slip and say these things out loud.

    And their “no tax on tips” is important messaging for them — since they intend to eliminate the increased minimum wage and return to low wages with consumers expected to tip to make up for low wages paid by employers.

    So. Vote DJT and go backwards from any progress made to benefit the working 99%, so the 1% get even richer.

    Or vote Harris, and declare — WE’RE NOT GOING BACK. 🗳️

  20. richardfitzwell822 on

    As others have pointed out —There’s an important lesson here in terms of spin and language in politics. By eliminating overtime pay you definitely eliminate all taxes on overtime pay. And in the Beltline way of operating, you are telling the truth by just omitting the first part.

    Most political promises should be written on paper and examined like a puzzle. What are they cropping out this sentence?

  21. Historical-Being-766 on

    A MAGA supporter would cut their own foot off if they thought it would cause a minority to walk with a limp. All they care about is hurting others, even if it hurts them too.

  22. redrocketredglare on

    LMAO… and the dumb sheep is going to still vote for him thinking “he would not do that to me….right… he’s not talking about us? Right?”

  23. Says Elon did a great job union busting. Doesn’t want to pay OT and the union members around here will still vote for him knowing full well they need OT pay to survive.

  24. It’s wild how he doesn’t know anything about Project 2025, but so much in it is married to his actual thoughts. It’s not even him towing the line. It’s really the diarrhea he’s been spewing for decades put into a manuscript.

  25. Trump is also the type of employer that only hires part time employees so he doesn’t pay benefits

  26. This is one of those base level things that should disqualify him from President.

    He actively tries to avoid paying people for their work. It’s part of his business plan to prevent payment to anyone who does work for him. He sues people who try to get the money they are owed. If he does get forced to pay, he will attempt to get the debt significantly reduced.

    No one should think this is an acceptable person in any facet of society.

  27. onceinawhile222 on

    Donald true fighter for the working class. He talks about stopping outsourcing but outsources his work to avoid overtime. Bring manufacturing back to America but where does he buy his merchandise? Certainly a standup guy for the American worker.

  28. Frequent-Ad4395 on

    How can his supporters just be ok with that? Many of them probably work hourly jobs that have overtime policies. Would they be ok if that just went away? They are truly brainwashed by this man

  29. * Everyone: WE WANT 4 DAY WORK WEEKS!
    * GOP: We hear you and counter with mandatory return to office, 5 day work weeks, and no overtime pay.
    * GOP, also: Why are we so deeply unpopular? Must be the illegals.

  30. He sees this as part of why he’s “so smart”.

    It’s not a slip up in the way a normal person would regard it. He doesn’t thing he’s doing anything wrong. He thinks it’s good business to lie, and cheat, and exploit, and not pay so he makes a profit. *That*, to him, is good business. Now do you see what is the reality of the shitty playground of the rich?

  31. If the Democrats ran a broken vacuum cleaner for President against T.Rump I would still vote for the vacuum cleaner, as I know it would work harder than T.Rump ever did in his life.

  32. Well, that convinced my brother who to vote for. He avoids politics like the plague so he’s still undecided, until I tell him this. Man works 20 hours overtime a week because his role is critical.

  33. BackAlleySurgeon on

    Trump’s suggested tax cuts are fucking stupid be anyway. I know Harris also has adopted the “no tax on tips” policy, but all three of these things are just fucking stupid. Overtime, tips, and social security are all forms of income. Just lower income tax rates on people who make less money. Don’t pick and choose what kinds of income shouldn’t be taxed. There’s no good fucking reason to create a tax plan that disincentivizes salaried positions.

  34. This piece of shit hasn’t worked a real job in his entire 78 years on this planet, and he wants to strut around talking to Leon about firing people laughing, talking about overtime, the only overtime this guy knows about is when he forgets to set the sleep timer on his tv falling asleep at night, fuck this fake ass soft handed, bitch.