Crew should be removed and the boat should be blasted into oblivion at sea.
john_moses_br on
This is probably some kind of Russian hybrid operation. It’s not technically difficult to solve the problem safely, the cargo can for instance be loaded on barges so the vessel can repaired. But whoever is giving orders to the captain doesn’t want that to happen.
Aggravating_Set_8861 on
It will seriously fck shit up if we, allow it.
Mark my words: people will be like, “oh my gosh, wtf happened?”
I am saying that political systems are trying to put this into a way of destroying a city/port in the western world.
Otherwise, confiscate the ship now and put it in the middle of nowhere.
GreyDaveNZ on
Russia created the problem, Russia can resolve the problem.
However, I do have sympathy for the crew as they are likely just pawns in this situation.
Woodentit_B_Lovely on
Wasn’t the 2020 explosion in Beirut the same cargo that no one wanted to off load?
onceinawhile222 on
Have Vladimir call Donald and see what he can do for an old friend.
ROCCOMMS on
Seems like the best course of action is to move the vessel as far away from anywhere it could cause harm, extract the crew and/or passengers, and then destroy the ship in international waters. This is assuming the ship can’t just go back to Russia where it came from.
That amount of ammonium nitrate it’s carrying could take out a port–we’re talking Beirut but orders of magnitude higher–and given both Russia’s and PRC’s political warfare operations the past decade+, I don’t think any NATO member has any reason to take at face value that this isn’t a ruse to blow up NATO infrastructure.
EatthisNotThat85 on
Russia needs to send some of its tugs to hall it back to its own country.
Excellent_Belt3159 on
With Putin’s posturing & threats since the Ukraine war why would any port take the chance?
Aggravating_Set_8861 on
I cannot express how serious this can be, if detonated in the right place. We are all reactionary anyways, but I hope I am wrong.
“At 9:12 a.m., the ammonium nitrate reached an explosive threshold from the combination of heat and pressure. Grandcamp detonated, causing utter destruction within 2,000 feet and extreme damage throughout the port. The tremendous blast produced a 15 ft (4.6 m) tsunami and a shockwave, levelling nearly 1,000 buildings on land. Among the buildings destroyed was a Monsanto Chemical Company plant, killing 145 of its 450 workers.
Flying shrapnel resulted in ignition of refineries and chemical tanks along the waterfront. Falling bales of burning twine from Grandcamp’s cargo added to the damage, and her anchor was hurled across the city. Two sightseeing airplanes flying nearby were blown out of the sky, while 8 miles (13 km) away, half of the windows in Galveston were shattered. The explosion blew the almost 6,350 short tons (5,760 t) of the ship’s steel into the air, some at supersonic speed.”
9e5e22da on
They tried to dock at Klaipeda but they were refused. Klaipeda being the LNG terminal for the Lithuanian power grid that ended their reliance on Russian gas imports. Funny that huh.
Radical_Dreamer151 on
mankind tends to repeat history.
digredmoo on
I say we drag it out to the deep sea and nuke the entire ship from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.
Negative_Gravitas on
Why don’t they just tow it outside the environment?
thingandstuff on
What was the original destination?
Moist-Leggings on
Rescue the crew and scuttle the damn thing while it’s still in open water. We are in a war whether we want to announce it or not. Letting a 20000 ton* bomb from an enemy country dock in a UK city would be insane.
Edit: wrote LBS not ton
Josepth_Blowsepth on
Send out the Nikolay Chiker tugboat. It’s not busy hauling the Admiral Kuznetsov back to port. Maybe Ukraine will help them both accelerate via space reentry once it’s in Russian territory
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IndistinctChatters on
On 22nd August 2024 Ruby MV* took shelter in the Norwegian city of Tromso for repairs, where six deficiencies including a cracked hull, unlawful fuel, various safety issues and expired crew documents were discovered
Jens Wenzel Kristoffersen, a defence analyst at Nordic Defense Analysis and a former naval officer, questioned why the ship had not been ordered to return to Russia.
“The amount of AM on this Russian boat is 10x this and would be equivalent explosive power to one of Putin’s tactical nuclear weapons – this vessel should be treated with kid gloves and returned to Russia asap – in normal times this would be a concern but not a national threat but as Putin has yet again threatened the UK with attack and nuclear level attack there must be an urgency to get this ship well away from the UK.”
Edit:*
SolarSalsa on
Is it normal to carry that much explosive cargo on a single ship?
Rabbits-and-Bears on
🤬
Exciting_Farmer6395 on
Thug boat
xdeltax97 on
It’s very suspicious that it directly went to a Norwegian Navy base and then a NATO facility to try to dock instead of a civilian port. At this point it needs to be seized, taken out to international waters and detonated.
Rabbits-and-Bears on
Enough of this crap. Toe it to Malta
Tow it to Kaliningrad.
Alone-Clock258 on
Halifax Explosion all over again if that fucker blows
Wazalootu on
She’s not too far away from a well known wreck which has about 1400 tons of unstable ordnance just for that extra bit of concern.
RespectTheTree on
Soaking up humidity, turning solid… can we not?
marysalad on
I knew someone once who acted like butter wouldn’t melt in their mouth, but on the sly would steal, snoop, undermine and damage property of people they otherwise acted like friends with. After noticing this and reflecting on the pattern, I never let them into my house again.
usernameplsplsplspls on
Russia…
dadgiga on
Why not missle it when it’s out at sea?
titanjumka on
Who’s brave enough to approach the ship?
fivesixsevenate on
Ahh yes, Floatie McBombface is stranded yet again.
freestyle43 on
“Something big is going to happen in October.”
Any country try that let’s this thing within 100 miles of their coastline is fucking nuts. Its a floating Russian mini nuke with plausible deniability.
john_jdm on
The article doesn’t state the original destination port nor exactly why it can’t go there. I’m just curious why this ship was loaded up with so much ammonium nitrate. Someone must have wanted it. Was it China? (That is not a dig on China – they have a lot of people to feed and this is used as fertilizer when it’s not exploding.)
FuckKarmeWhores on
This ship has been at it for weeks, scaring plenty of countries. Only positive thing is that it’s pretty hard to get it to explode.
ramriot on
Another one?
After the SS Richard Montgomery you’d think we would know better.
fishcasado on
Dirty Russian cargo ship bomb it is
TYO_HXC on
Just evacuate the crew and blow it up from a safe distance.
Korsi2023 on
Send that ship to Kalininggrad!
Then it Can destroy the russian facetility there.
AugustusPommerania on
Warum kein russischer Hafen?
fallwind on
If it was already near Lithuania, why didn’t it just go to Kaliningrad to unload?
Hersin on
I hope Uk authorities will have a bit of back bone and say Fuk no if they request to unload in UK port.
General_Benefit8634 on
Force it to Malta. The ship is registered there. Maybe this will cause a change in the way they exploit foreign owned ship registration for tax / revenue purposes?
Carpik78 on
If it was near Klaipeda and now it’s east of UK, it had to pass one of Danish straits. That was a perfect place for explosion and yet it didn’t happen.
Hersin on
Send it to the middle of nowhere, offload crew and blow the ship.
Political and legal nightmare you say ? Well less of a nightmare then blowing up in or near any modern port.
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Crew should be removed and the boat should be blasted into oblivion at sea.
This is probably some kind of Russian hybrid operation. It’s not technically difficult to solve the problem safely, the cargo can for instance be loaded on barges so the vessel can repaired. But whoever is giving orders to the captain doesn’t want that to happen.
It will seriously fck shit up if we, allow it.
Mark my words: people will be like, “oh my gosh, wtf happened?”
I am saying that political systems are trying to put this into a way of destroying a city/port in the western world.
Otherwise, confiscate the ship now and put it in the middle of nowhere.
Russia created the problem, Russia can resolve the problem.
However, I do have sympathy for the crew as they are likely just pawns in this situation.
Wasn’t the 2020 explosion in Beirut the same cargo that no one wanted to off load?
Have Vladimir call Donald and see what he can do for an old friend.
Seems like the best course of action is to move the vessel as far away from anywhere it could cause harm, extract the crew and/or passengers, and then destroy the ship in international waters. This is assuming the ship can’t just go back to Russia where it came from.
That amount of ammonium nitrate it’s carrying could take out a port–we’re talking Beirut but orders of magnitude higher–and given both Russia’s and PRC’s political warfare operations the past decade+, I don’t think any NATO member has any reason to take at face value that this isn’t a ruse to blow up NATO infrastructure.
Russia needs to send some of its tugs to hall it back to its own country.
With Putin’s posturing & threats since the Ukraine war why would any port take the chance?
I cannot express how serious this can be, if detonated in the right place. We are all reactionary anyways, but I hope I am wrong.
Can’t we wait until November 5th then set it off?
[The Texas City Disaster of 1947](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_City_disaster) started with a ship carrying 2,300 tons of this material. This ship is reported to be carrying 20,000 tons.
“At 9:12 a.m., the ammonium nitrate reached an explosive threshold from the combination of heat and pressure. Grandcamp detonated, causing utter destruction within 2,000 feet and extreme damage throughout the port. The tremendous blast produced a 15 ft (4.6 m) tsunami and a shockwave, levelling nearly 1,000 buildings on land. Among the buildings destroyed was a Monsanto Chemical Company plant, killing 145 of its 450 workers.
Flying shrapnel resulted in ignition of refineries and chemical tanks along the waterfront. Falling bales of burning twine from Grandcamp’s cargo added to the damage, and her anchor was hurled across the city. Two sightseeing airplanes flying nearby were blown out of the sky, while 8 miles (13 km) away, half of the windows in Galveston were shattered. The explosion blew the almost 6,350 short tons (5,760 t) of the ship’s steel into the air, some at supersonic speed.”
They tried to dock at Klaipeda but they were refused. Klaipeda being the LNG terminal for the Lithuanian power grid that ended their reliance on Russian gas imports. Funny that huh.
mankind tends to repeat history.
I say we drag it out to the deep sea and nuke the entire ship from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.
Why don’t they just tow it outside the environment?
What was the original destination?
Rescue the crew and scuttle the damn thing while it’s still in open water. We are in a war whether we want to announce it or not. Letting a 20000 ton* bomb from an enemy country dock in a UK city would be insane.
Edit: wrote LBS not ton
Send out the Nikolay Chiker tugboat. It’s not busy hauling the Admiral Kuznetsov back to port. Maybe Ukraine will help them both accelerate via space reentry once it’s in Russian territory
[deleted]
On 22nd August 2024 Ruby MV* took shelter in the Norwegian city of Tromso for repairs, where six deficiencies including a cracked hull, unlawful fuel, various safety issues and expired crew documents were discovered
Jens Wenzel Kristoffersen, a defence analyst at Nordic Defense Analysis and a former naval officer, questioned why the ship had not been ordered to return to Russia.
“The amount of AM on this Russian boat is 10x this and would be equivalent explosive power to one of Putin’s tactical nuclear weapons – this vessel should be treated with kid gloves and returned to Russia asap – in normal times this would be a concern but not a national threat but as Putin has yet again threatened the UK with attack and nuclear level attack there must be an urgency to get this ship well away from the UK.”
Edit:*
Is it normal to carry that much explosive cargo on a single ship?
🤬
Thug boat
It’s very suspicious that it directly went to a Norwegian Navy base and then a NATO facility to try to dock instead of a civilian port. At this point it needs to be seized, taken out to international waters and detonated.
Enough of this crap. Toe it to Malta
Tow it to Kaliningrad.
Halifax Explosion all over again if that fucker blows
She’s not too far away from a well known wreck which has about 1400 tons of unstable ordnance just for that extra bit of concern.
Soaking up humidity, turning solid… can we not?
I knew someone once who acted like butter wouldn’t melt in their mouth, but on the sly would steal, snoop, undermine and damage property of people they otherwise acted like friends with. After noticing this and reflecting on the pattern, I never let them into my house again.
Russia…
Why not missle it when it’s out at sea?
Who’s brave enough to approach the ship?
Ahh yes, Floatie McBombface is stranded yet again.
“Something big is going to happen in October.”
Any country try that let’s this thing within 100 miles of their coastline is fucking nuts. Its a floating Russian mini nuke with plausible deniability.
The article doesn’t state the original destination port nor exactly why it can’t go there. I’m just curious why this ship was loaded up with so much ammonium nitrate. Someone must have wanted it. Was it China? (That is not a dig on China – they have a lot of people to feed and this is used as fertilizer when it’s not exploding.)
This ship has been at it for weeks, scaring plenty of countries. Only positive thing is that it’s pretty hard to get it to explode.
Another one?
After the SS Richard Montgomery you’d think we would know better.
Dirty Russian cargo ship bomb it is
Just evacuate the crew and blow it up from a safe distance.
Send that ship to Kalininggrad!
Then it Can destroy the russian facetility there.
Warum kein russischer Hafen?
If it was already near Lithuania, why didn’t it just go to Kaliningrad to unload?
I hope Uk authorities will have a bit of back bone and say Fuk no if they request to unload in UK port.
Force it to Malta. The ship is registered there. Maybe this will cause a change in the way they exploit foreign owned ship registration for tax / revenue purposes?
If it was near Klaipeda and now it’s east of UK, it had to pass one of Danish straits. That was a perfect place for explosion and yet it didn’t happen.
Send it to the middle of nowhere, offload crew and blow the ship.
Political and legal nightmare you say ? Well less of a nightmare then blowing up in or near any modern port.
Just my opinion.