>The winter fuel allowance was the decision the group were most angry about. None of them were pensioners, yet all of them worried that the decision to restrict the payment would leave elderly people vulnerable this winter
I wonder if Rachel Reeves might be regretting the way she has announced the cuts to Winter Fuel Payment. She could’ve announced it in the October budget alongside other more eye-catching policies, or expand its eligibility to other benefits as well, or at least conduct an impact assessment first. Now she is attacked by both wings of the political spectrum and most voters, including a substantial portion of Labour voters, hate it too.
Primary-Effect-3691 on
I care more about the 10 billion investment in a data center in the north, potential Universal theme park in Bedford, and being second fastest grower in the G7 more than vibes
Logical-Brief-420 on
Im also wholly unimpressed by the facile nature of many UK voters to be honest
ProjectZeus4000 on
This article makes me despair in the voters of this country
yourlocallidl on
can’t believe we’re living in a time where it’s expensive to heat our own homes, absolutely ridiculous
TheLimeyLemmon on
I’m not sure why anyone’s surprised. The 2024 GE reeked of complete apathy.
Hombarume80 on
Voters have a short memory ,you have 4 years ,make the hard choices now and keep going!
QuailTechnical5143 on
Loving seeing all the former GTTO crowd reacting with horror at realising Labour are literally no different.
Welcome to politics! 😂
123kingkongun on
I knew I wasn’t going to vote for them back in October ‘cause I knew I would be disappointed
_JR28_ on
I’ll take bad vibes from Labour over bad everything under the Conservatives
IdiosyncraticAutism on
When has anyone been impressed after voting for one the two parties in charge of this country over the last 100 years?
Malediction101 on
Genuinely, what do these people expect the government to have accomplished by now?
Gav1164 on
Maybe Labour arn’t great, but the Tories were a shit show!
ScaredyCatUK on
Perhaps we should just give them a little more than three months… You know, be bit more grown up about what they have to deal with and how quickly they can rebuild the country after the utter shambles we’ve just got rid of.
howsitgoingboy on
I’m mostly unimpressed by the Labour leadership taking bribes.
That’s the bigger issue here, these people are fucking wealthy, or at least should be able to afford shit themselves without personal donations.
SaltSatisfaction2124 on
Should have waited till after winter for the fuel payment reduction, and ensured they caught everyone up on pension credits otherwise
No_Breadfruit_4901 on
Wow I can’t believe labour didn’t fix anything at all from the 14 years of Tory mess in just 2 and a half months
Jj-woodsy on
Bad vibes, what were these voters thinking the past 14 years under the Tories?
So far they have only cut winter fuel allowance, and we won’t know more until next month. The Tories gutted our public services and look at the state of our country right now.
Witty-Bus07 on
When you are a millionaire and take winter fuel payments away and then accept over £100000, in donations it would leave a negative impression
Dean-Advocate665 on
Luckily countries aren’t run on vibes or else we’d all be screwed. I don’t have some inherent trust in Labour, but they without a doubt appear to be far more competent than the final few years of the tories. And every “scandal” the media has tried to push so far has been pretty much just hot air. It does make me despair seeing the average voter be swayed so easily on the most minute and inconsequential issues.
Boundish91 on
You don’t repair over a decade of economic mismanagement in 3 months.
FarmerJohnOSRS on
Is that because the media is hammering them for things the Tories were doing the entire time, but said nothing about?
Spare_Dig_7959 on
We have democracy,it is flawed.People get elected,they are flawed.We can change them if we don’t like what they do. Putins paid actors hate any kind of democracy and will attack all sides depending on his instructions all the time.They crave democracy whilst trying to collapse ours.
actuarynewsmod on
The winter fuel decision shows very poor judgment and the way they’ve tried to talk their way out of it just sounds so dishonest
takesthebiscuit on
Tory HQ are laughing their heads off and having the time of their lives!!!
They are sitting flinging their shit over the walls and it’s sticking.
We need to excise the Tory tumor from our system and that’s going to need some invasive surgery before we can heal and get stronger
iamnotinterested2 on
*Statistics* are *like bikinis*. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.
mrhelmand on
I see a lot of “well, the Tories were worse” but that’s not the point. People wanted change, they wanted a government that wasn’t full of nakedly corrupt idiots only out for themselves. It’s very clear to them now Starmer isn’t up to standard, so they’ve turned on him.
Scared-Room-9962 on
I don’t expect them to fix the country in 3 months.
I do expect them to be different to the Tories though and so far, it’s more of the same greed and Austerity.
acedias-token on
If you are cutting away infected tissue, you keep cutting away until the infection is gone. If some Tory issues are still present, the issue wasn’t just the tories.. I can’t speak for what needs to replace them though
Serious-Teaching9701 on
Same old shit again. The poor get poorer and the rich get richer.
PurahsHero on
After 15 years of being told how we are all in this together, things are bad, it’s a long road to recovery and the like – all while public services are getting worse – I don’t see how a government saying how bad things are could be anything other than depressing.
The message has landed – things are rubbish. We know they are rubbish. But what people also need is some kind of hope that things will get better, and do so soon. After the last 15 years, people’s patience has ran out.
There is being honest with people (necessary) and there is being honest and giving some hope. Labour is currently all big on the honesty but not so much on the hope.
humaninspector on
Was just reading last night how they, or Sir Kier, wants to ram through extra snooping powers for the DWP so that they can spy on, and check people’s bank accounts.
Fucking hell.
Also, in another article long term off sick “people must work” like he is some Victorian who believes that work solves all ills.
I was expecting them not to be as bad as the Tories. Fucking hell. He’s carrying on.
Visual-Blackberry874 on
Keir, Keir, made the pensioners fear
Didn’t even have to get into second gear
That Starmer, the granny harmer
Savior of the classes while wearing Prada
Hes a knight of the realm and a total helm
And I could probably go harder…
But if he ever saw this, I’d be in for a miss
Probably find myself locked up with some chavas.
Odd-Wafer-4250 on
That’s because there is a concerted effort by the press to do a hatchet job on them and the UK voting public are by the large dimwitted.
Copacacapybarargh on
They’re almost as bad as the Tories- targeting the most vulnerable and pacifying businesses. This isn’t a Labour party, it’s a slightly rebranded Tory party
knobber_jobbler on
Not sure how they magically fix 14 years of mismanagement in 3 months. But here we are in an age of entitlement and memories that span mere weeks.
BeastMidlands on
Lol were they not here for the past 14 years? I hate starmer but it’s been _three months_
Sufficient-Cover5956 on
They’re trying to normalise bribery and try to laugh it off.
Many of us work in the public sector and would be sacked if we took anything close to what these have taken.
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>The winter fuel allowance was the decision the group were most angry about. None of them were pensioners, yet all of them worried that the decision to restrict the payment would leave elderly people vulnerable this winter
I wonder if Rachel Reeves might be regretting the way she has announced the cuts to Winter Fuel Payment. She could’ve announced it in the October budget alongside other more eye-catching policies, or expand its eligibility to other benefits as well, or at least conduct an impact assessment first. Now she is attacked by both wings of the political spectrum and most voters, including a substantial portion of Labour voters, hate it too.
I care more about the 10 billion investment in a data center in the north, potential Universal theme park in Bedford, and being second fastest grower in the G7 more than vibes
Im also wholly unimpressed by the facile nature of many UK voters to be honest
This article makes me despair in the voters of this country
can’t believe we’re living in a time where it’s expensive to heat our own homes, absolutely ridiculous
I’m not sure why anyone’s surprised. The 2024 GE reeked of complete apathy.
Voters have a short memory ,you have 4 years ,make the hard choices now and keep going!
Loving seeing all the former GTTO crowd reacting with horror at realising Labour are literally no different.
Welcome to politics! 😂
I knew I wasn’t going to vote for them back in October ‘cause I knew I would be disappointed
I’ll take bad vibes from Labour over bad everything under the Conservatives
When has anyone been impressed after voting for one the two parties in charge of this country over the last 100 years?
Genuinely, what do these people expect the government to have accomplished by now?
Maybe Labour arn’t great, but the Tories were a shit show!
Perhaps we should just give them a little more than three months… You know, be bit more grown up about what they have to deal with and how quickly they can rebuild the country after the utter shambles we’ve just got rid of.
I’m mostly unimpressed by the Labour leadership taking bribes.
That’s the bigger issue here, these people are fucking wealthy, or at least should be able to afford shit themselves without personal donations.
Should have waited till after winter for the fuel payment reduction, and ensured they caught everyone up on pension credits otherwise
Wow I can’t believe labour didn’t fix anything at all from the 14 years of Tory mess in just 2 and a half months
Bad vibes, what were these voters thinking the past 14 years under the Tories?
So far they have only cut winter fuel allowance, and we won’t know more until next month. The Tories gutted our public services and look at the state of our country right now.
When you are a millionaire and take winter fuel payments away and then accept over £100000, in donations it would leave a negative impression
Luckily countries aren’t run on vibes or else we’d all be screwed. I don’t have some inherent trust in Labour, but they without a doubt appear to be far more competent than the final few years of the tories. And every “scandal” the media has tried to push so far has been pretty much just hot air. It does make me despair seeing the average voter be swayed so easily on the most minute and inconsequential issues.
You don’t repair over a decade of economic mismanagement in 3 months.
Is that because the media is hammering them for things the Tories were doing the entire time, but said nothing about?
We have democracy,it is flawed.People get elected,they are flawed.We can change them if we don’t like what they do. Putins paid actors hate any kind of democracy and will attack all sides depending on his instructions all the time.They crave democracy whilst trying to collapse ours.
The winter fuel decision shows very poor judgment and the way they’ve tried to talk their way out of it just sounds so dishonest
Tory HQ are laughing their heads off and having the time of their lives!!!
They are sitting flinging their shit over the walls and it’s sticking.
We need to excise the Tory tumor from our system and that’s going to need some invasive surgery before we can heal and get stronger
*Statistics* are *like bikinis*. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.
I see a lot of “well, the Tories were worse” but that’s not the point. People wanted change, they wanted a government that wasn’t full of nakedly corrupt idiots only out for themselves. It’s very clear to them now Starmer isn’t up to standard, so they’ve turned on him.
I don’t expect them to fix the country in 3 months.
I do expect them to be different to the Tories though and so far, it’s more of the same greed and Austerity.
If you are cutting away infected tissue, you keep cutting away until the infection is gone. If some Tory issues are still present, the issue wasn’t just the tories.. I can’t speak for what needs to replace them though
Same old shit again. The poor get poorer and the rich get richer.
After 15 years of being told how we are all in this together, things are bad, it’s a long road to recovery and the like – all while public services are getting worse – I don’t see how a government saying how bad things are could be anything other than depressing.
The message has landed – things are rubbish. We know they are rubbish. But what people also need is some kind of hope that things will get better, and do so soon. After the last 15 years, people’s patience has ran out.
There is being honest with people (necessary) and there is being honest and giving some hope. Labour is currently all big on the honesty but not so much on the hope.
Was just reading last night how they, or Sir Kier, wants to ram through extra snooping powers for the DWP so that they can spy on, and check people’s bank accounts.
Fucking hell.
Also, in another article long term off sick “people must work” like he is some Victorian who believes that work solves all ills.
I was expecting them not to be as bad as the Tories. Fucking hell. He’s carrying on.
Keir, Keir, made the pensioners fear
Didn’t even have to get into second gear
That Starmer, the granny harmer
Savior of the classes while wearing Prada
Hes a knight of the realm and a total helm
And I could probably go harder…
But if he ever saw this, I’d be in for a miss
Probably find myself locked up with some chavas.
That’s because there is a concerted effort by the press to do a hatchet job on them and the UK voting public are by the large dimwitted.
They’re almost as bad as the Tories- targeting the most vulnerable and pacifying businesses. This isn’t a Labour party, it’s a slightly rebranded Tory party
Not sure how they magically fix 14 years of mismanagement in 3 months. But here we are in an age of entitlement and memories that span mere weeks.
Lol were they not here for the past 14 years? I hate starmer but it’s been _three months_
They’re trying to normalise bribery and try to laugh it off.
Many of us work in the public sector and would be sacked if we took anything close to what these have taken.