Benefit fraud cases are often small scale, because the individual payments are small. You need to steal dozens of identities in order to create a situation in which you are making a high amount.
If you’re going to be a fraudster, it’s simply more efficient to engage in online frauds like phishing scams.
That government’s panic and talk up benefit fraud is simply a way to demonise the poor and it’s the kind of right wing bullshit I had hoped Labour wouldn’t do.
MediocreWitness726 on
Going after pittance from benefit claimers when others have pointed out you have companies from COVID that owe billions as well as huge corps that avoid tax.
Why don’t you tackle long term sickness by improving mental health services?
Make up the “missing” 22billion by going after corporations and super rich tax dodgers.
But sure, go after the person who got £1000 more than they should have, not the person/company who didn’t pay £1,000,000
Seeamanaboutadug on
Why does the government subsidise low pay and businesses via in-work benefits? Better skills and retraining grants, more automation, higher wages, scrap in-work benefits and vastly increase benefits for those who cannot do any job due to their disability.
Whisky_Chaser on
Funny how the red tories are no different than the blue tories in attacking poorer people first and rich tax dodging back handing look after me and I’ll look after you cunts last if not ever.
actuarynewsmod on
He’s being a prosecutor again against people who absolutely can not afford expensive lawyers like famous BBC presenters can. Hey, teacher, leave them kids alone!
pikantnasuka on
They’re all obsessed with this, as if *that* is where all the money goes.
Look closer, maybe, pols. It’s your peers that rob us.
_Spiggles_ on
This is great but you’d make more money going after the rich who tax dodge.
TinFish77 on
Translation: ‘We are going to go after those low-hanging fruits that people just hate. This is so you don’t feel quite so bad about what’s going to happen to you.’
I really don’t see it as working, the public are just not going to accept Austerity any more.
Manoj109 on
How much is being lost due to benefits fraud? Are they going after wee Dave who overclaim on his CB and disability payments?
Will they be going after the likes of Michelle Mone and other corporate frauds and the corporate tax Dodgers?
Starmer. You can’t out reform reform.
jimthewanderer on
Prime Minister loudly announces he is an idiot to anyone with a basic grasp of the issue. More at Ten.
joeythemouse on
So we have the same shit coming out of different arseholes.
Is this what they’ve spend 14 years preparing? The same Daily Mail bullshit?
It’s fucking desperate if this is keynote speech.
clbbcrg on
Meaningless bs platitudes .. benefit fraud barely exists.. In the way it’s portrayed to the general public at least.. maybe concentrate on the millionaires not paying tax rather than someone getting £80 week for job seekers.. tory policies from “change” labour..
Spare-Reception-4738 on
Disabled and unpaid carers should be terrified … dealing with DWP about to get worse
actuarynewsmod on
Going after people without means to defend themselves. Lawyers enjoy doing that.
Jodeatre on
Can we get swift action against corporate greed and tax dodging instead of chasing the lowest return?
Apsalar28 on
As long as they target all those nice middle class Daily Mail readers who are currently moving Mum and Dad’s savings into their ISA so the Holy Pensioners can claim pension credit and still get their winter fuel payments I may be ok with this.
poopoopoopoooooo on
I’d rather my tax money went to some guy who doesn’t like wasting his life at a shit job and would rather eat chips all day, than a missile to blow up some Palestinian babies.
AckVak on
There are other types of fraud that cost us more than benefit fraud. Maybe start somewhere else Keir?
Oh great we continue to punch down against a small group of people (people on welfare/poor etc) to find the few fraudsters that exist.
This will inevitably result in people dying due to mistake and the dwp taking harsh action against the wrong people like always.
Why can’t we promise swift action against tax dodgers and large businesses that never pay their fair share.
One_Menu1900 on
It seems there are very few benefits fraudster s. FACT
But surprsingly many wealthy people stash their hoards offshore so as not to support our economy which they are leaching and have done for decades FACT Now Blackhole to fill ! Think more action there ! Weve paid tax and worked paid Nat Ins VAT still do Didnt choose when born or ti hiw disability would blight our lives
Boogaaa on
What about going after the biggest scroungers of public money – other MPs and the Royals?
BluebirdDesigner5267 on
Nothing about politicians taking gifts in exchange for favourable policies in the future, no?
I don’t know any working class people who are living any sort of high life.
Additional_Net_9202 on
This plays in to the narrative that the benefits system is full of fraud. This creates animosity in the public mind about people on benefits. This usually precedes some sort of harsh austerity measure against the least well off.
Labour playing the same game as the Tories did. Utterly pathetic from Starmer
soulsteela on
As previously seen multiple times, it will cost upward of £10 billion to find £1.5 billion in fraud we’ve seen it dozens of times.
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Benefit fraud cases are often small scale, because the individual payments are small. You need to steal dozens of identities in order to create a situation in which you are making a high amount.
If you’re going to be a fraudster, it’s simply more efficient to engage in online frauds like phishing scams.
That government’s panic and talk up benefit fraud is simply a way to demonise the poor and it’s the kind of right wing bullshit I had hoped Labour wouldn’t do.
Going after pittance from benefit claimers when others have pointed out you have companies from COVID that owe billions as well as huge corps that avoid tax.
They are sounding a lot like [Tories](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/06/08/sunak-save-taxpayers-12bn-beating-benefit-fraud/) these days, even [back in 2010](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/parties_and_issues/8611173.stm) the same drum was beaten. It’s absurd to think that there’s much money left to claw back after decades of anti-welfare rhetoric from the Tories.
Why don’t you tackle long term sickness by improving mental health services?
Make up the “missing” 22billion by going after corporations and super rich tax dodgers.
But sure, go after the person who got £1000 more than they should have, not the person/company who didn’t pay £1,000,000
Why does the government subsidise low pay and businesses via in-work benefits? Better skills and retraining grants, more automation, higher wages, scrap in-work benefits and vastly increase benefits for those who cannot do any job due to their disability.
Funny how the red tories are no different than the blue tories in attacking poorer people first and rich tax dodging back handing look after me and I’ll look after you cunts last if not ever.
He’s being a prosecutor again against people who absolutely can not afford expensive lawyers like famous BBC presenters can. Hey, teacher, leave them kids alone!
They’re all obsessed with this, as if *that* is where all the money goes.
Look closer, maybe, pols. It’s your peers that rob us.
This is great but you’d make more money going after the rich who tax dodge.
Translation: ‘We are going to go after those low-hanging fruits that people just hate. This is so you don’t feel quite so bad about what’s going to happen to you.’
I really don’t see it as working, the public are just not going to accept Austerity any more.
How much is being lost due to benefits fraud? Are they going after wee Dave who overclaim on his CB and disability payments?
Will they be going after the likes of Michelle Mone and other corporate frauds and the corporate tax Dodgers?
Starmer. You can’t out reform reform.
Prime Minister loudly announces he is an idiot to anyone with a basic grasp of the issue. More at Ten.
So we have the same shit coming out of different arseholes.
Is this what they’ve spend 14 years preparing? The same Daily Mail bullshit?
It’s fucking desperate if this is keynote speech.
Meaningless bs platitudes .. benefit fraud barely exists.. In the way it’s portrayed to the general public at least.. maybe concentrate on the millionaires not paying tax rather than someone getting £80 week for job seekers.. tory policies from “change” labour..
Disabled and unpaid carers should be terrified … dealing with DWP about to get worse
Going after people without means to defend themselves. Lawyers enjoy doing that.
Can we get swift action against corporate greed and tax dodging instead of chasing the lowest return?
As long as they target all those nice middle class Daily Mail readers who are currently moving Mum and Dad’s savings into their ISA so the Holy Pensioners can claim pension credit and still get their winter fuel payments I may be ok with this.
I’d rather my tax money went to some guy who doesn’t like wasting his life at a shit job and would rather eat chips all day, than a missile to blow up some Palestinian babies.
There are other types of fraud that cost us more than benefit fraud. Maybe start somewhere else Keir?
[https://fullfact.org/online/tax-gap-benefit-fraud-comparison/](https://fullfact.org/online/tax-gap-benefit-fraud-comparison/)
Oh great we continue to punch down against a small group of people (people on welfare/poor etc) to find the few fraudsters that exist.
This will inevitably result in people dying due to mistake and the dwp taking harsh action against the wrong people like always.
Why can’t we promise swift action against tax dodgers and large businesses that never pay their fair share.
It seems there are very few benefits fraudster s. FACT
But surprsingly many wealthy people stash their hoards offshore so as not to support our economy which they are leaching and have done for decades FACT Now Blackhole to fill ! Think more action there ! Weve paid tax and worked paid Nat Ins VAT still do Didnt choose when born or ti hiw disability would blight our lives
What about going after the biggest scroungers of public money – other MPs and the Royals?
Nothing about politicians taking gifts in exchange for favourable policies in the future, no?
I don’t know any working class people who are living any sort of high life.
This plays in to the narrative that the benefits system is full of fraud. This creates animosity in the public mind about people on benefits. This usually precedes some sort of harsh austerity measure against the least well off.
Labour playing the same game as the Tories did. Utterly pathetic from Starmer
As previously seen multiple times, it will cost upward of £10 billion to find £1.5 billion in fraud we’ve seen it dozens of times.